OK this is the first time I attempt anything like this.....

I just finished installing the Esmeril Turbo Kit on my car and is will not run...

At first we thought is was a fuel pump issue so we changed it back to stock.. same..

Second we thought it was the fact that we deleted the factory air pump but then we plugged in all of the senors and nothing still, it just bounces off of idle and then off the car goes...

We then attempted to switch the ecu to stock and the car idled fine, but then we i attemted to drive the car would just turn off....

So i figured it must be the Interceptor and maybe the map that was installed....

Has any one who installed the Esmeril kit had the same problem?????

Thanks for any help you may provide........

"Idleing fine but won't drive" sounds like a MAF sensor problem, but I realize the Int-X uses a MAP - is the hose perfectly clear of kinks and sharp bends?


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With the stock ECU it will idle fine, but when he went to take off in reverse it died. It was trying to find 14.7 A/F fuel at idle and hade lean and rich stumbles at times, but takeoff in reverese wasnt happening.

Then we installed the int-X and it just wont idle AT ALL.

We will check for kinks in the line tomorrow...


Also, did the Int-X come with a Map sensor? Or is it the sensor behind the stock ECU?

The MAP on the Int-X is internal...so the hose connecting the Interceptor-X to the Intake Manifold is where it gets its pressure reading.

Please stop what you are doing and contact Esmeril Racing through our website (via the phone number). If you do not know what you are doing you could damage your engine.

x2, call them. Fastest way to the solution.

They never pick up the phone....

if you plug in the stock ECU the car should run normally as long as you don't go into boost. if you say the stock ECU still doesn't keep the car running off of idle, i'd check the MAF first. make sure the throttle is plugged in and that you don't have any intake leaks.

if you plug in the stock ECU the car should run normally as long as you don't go into boost. if you say the stock ECU still doesn't keep the car running off of idle, i'd check the MAF first. make sure the throttle is plugged in and that you don't have any intake leaks.

If the injectors or stock this will work...but if the injectors are larger then it's a no go.....

he didn't mention bigger injectors

The kit comes with secondary injectors. SO when do those come into effect on the RX-8??

The car WILL NOT REV past 3000RPMs, even when flooring it at idle.

All sensors are plugged in. MAF worked before the install. TPS is plugged in as well.

is this with the stock ECU?

Yeah we made a couple of attempts..

The funny thing is when i idle with the stock ecu, it idles fine and then i start driving, once i let go o the clutch the car just starts bouncing like a mad man????
This stops after 3rd gear... Again with the stock ecu...

Now with the Inter-X the car idles finally but does not go higher then 3 thousand rpm. But while it is a 3 thousand the car backfires like crazy and i have blue smoke coming out. I read this some where on the forum and this was caused by the ignition coils. My coils are the originals and have 48 thousand miles. I ordered the Esmeril Ignition system and we'll see how this goes....

If you guys like i can post a vid on YouTube if this would help diagnose the problem.....

Thanks for everybody's help!!!!!!!!

Check the Eccentric shaft sensor and the MOP connections as well. Anything that will put the car into limp mode will make it run like that.

Mine did something similar that turned out to be the MOP...for some reason it got confused?? and needed the switch to be reset....

Check to see if the throttle is opening properly...mine wasn't which is a dead giveaway that it's in limp mode

Check the Eccentric shaft sensor and the MOP connections as well. Anything that will put the car into limp mode will make it run like that.

Mine did something similar that turned out to be the MOP...for some reason it got confused?? and needed the switch to be reset....

Check to see if the throttle is opening properly...mine wasn't which is a dead giveaway that it's in limp mode

MOP connections???

Sorry I'm a newbie and learning as i go........ lol

Nevermind found it, gotta love this forum..... Metering Oil Pump

We didn't touch this at all, you think it could be the problem???? We'll actually the instructions did make us heat shield it, I'll included photos tomorrow in the day time...

We did slap the MOP a few times with that manifold...LOL

We reset the ECU also, so wouldnt that kick it out of limp mode?

SO its either a vacuum leak, which I doubt, or a sensor problem.....

Check and see if the throttle opens......

When my MOP was fubarred it would go into limp mode immediately after a reset.....

it doesn't sound like a vacuum leak or ignition problem. like dannobre said, something is causing it to go into limp mode. again, double check the throttle. see if you can pull some codes out of the ECU. also, check all your grounds.

also check the injector wiring. that has been an issue with changing injectors.. the wiring is not as intuitive as it seems..

mazdamaniac has a sticky on injector wiring...

beers :beer:

my mazsport did this also, it turns out it was the knock sensor, which i randomly hit when putting in the oil feed line, which doesn't matter now........not anymore

The only codes that come out is P0127 i think, which is too lean in bank 1, thats all.......

I only got a Misfire code once but that was in the beginning....

I just got my invoice for the ignition system so hopefully that helps, if not the it is straight to the tuner, or mechanic....

Of cousre i cannot take this to the dealer anymore, they would look at it and say WTF???? IS THIS THE 09 VERSION????? :lol2:

Ok wel here is a status on my car so far.... Esmeril Turbo Kit

I just installed the esmeril ignition system and that seemed to helped. While installing the coils we noticed that one of the vacum hoses were not connected so we took off the entire intake manifold off just to triple check that everything was installed correctly.
Now with the stock ecu the car idles fine and goes past eh 3 thousand mark so i guess the car is out of limp mode.
However with the Interceptor-X, the car has a rough idle and will not go higher than 2,500 rpm. My guess is that i would just need to get the Inter-X tuned and that should be end of it...

Once i have more info i will def post it here and my final HP/TQ numbers...

Thanks....

Did you check the rev limit setting on the IntX..maybe someone played a funny on you and set it at 2500 RPM??

^n idled funny, serious base map issues

To be realy honest i am not realy that familiar with the Microsystem program to do that. I did peak around but stopped myself from changing anything.....

Its raining right now but GAMECHILD is attempting to send me his maps from esmeril to see if there are any differences...

Does anybody know if the Inter-X is not plugged in for about a week does the information erase????

No...info will not erase.....

yeah sound's like somehting might b up with theinter-x if it seem to b fine on the stock ecu but the X is f'd up then must be something set wrong!!! did u check the MAF?

yeah sound's like somehting might b up with theinter-x if it seem to b fine on the stock ecu but the X is f'd up then must be something set wrong!!! did u check the MAF?

I took out the MAF about 100 times, cleaned it, checked the connectors and the same....

I was just incontact with Esmeril and they said to check the injectors and verify that the hose to the interceptor-x is kosher.....

I will complete this tomorrow as it is raining by me at the moment....

I will def keep everyone updated.....

I took out the MAF about 100 times, cleaned it, checked the connectors and the same....

I was just incontact with Esmeril and they said to check the injectors and verify that the hose to the interceptor-x is kosher.....

I will complete this tomorrow as it is raining by me at the moment....

I will def keep everyone updated.....

I am interested in how it turns out. I am having problems myself. Running lean into boost so bigger injectors, P1 380, P2 440 and SEC 550, and mazsport fuel pump. Previous owner burned up old 04 motor running lean. GReddy e-manage blue conflict with ECU over injector control at 1/4 throttle. Told cutting "yellow" wires, injector control, to ECU is a quick fix. I have fwd service manual to tune shop (Solid-Technology) to help them insure which wires to cut. :banghead: and :banghead:

I am interested in how it turns out. I am having problems myself. Running lean into boost so bigger injectors, P1 380, P2 440 and SEC 550, and mazsport fuel pump. Previous owner burned up old 04 motor running lean.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=153530

Mig - do you have a wideband O2 to see where abouts your AFRs are? Prior to tuning, if the car will idle with the interceptor and hold a fair afr with some bouncing, that's more or less fine. You can clean that up later. You'll find that the Int-X doesn't export maps so Game would have to bring his dongle to your house for you to upload his map or he's have to screenshot it and you'd put it in manually. If you are both running off the base map sent with the kit, I should think you'd have the same map.

Did you perform a TPS callibration? There is a function for it on the Int-X though I don't know if it is part of a proper start up sequence. Just sitting there with the car running and your laptop open, you should be able to see what the engine is doing for the most part. You can download a microtech LT manual to see what all the functions are and at least read what yours are set to. I do know that the cold pump function is actually a coolant sensor calibration on an Int-X.

Where abouts in NY are you?

Mig - do you have a wideband O2 to see where abouts your AFRs are? Prior to tuning, if the car will idle with the interceptor and hold a fair afr with some bouncing, that's more or less fine. You can clean that up later. You'll find that the Int-X doesn't export maps so Game would have to bring his dongle to your house for you to upload his map or he's have to screenshot it and you'd put it in manually. If you are both running off the base map sent with the kit, I should think you'd have the same map.

Did you perform a TPS callibration? There is a function for it on the Int-X though I don't know if it is part of a proper start up sequence. Just sitting there with the car running and your laptop open, you should be able to see what the engine is doing for the most part. You can download a microtech LT manual to see what all the functions are and at least read what yours are set to. I do know that the cold pump function is actually a coolant sensor calibration on an Int-X.

Where abouts in NY are you?

I am in Nassau County LI............

But i think I found the problem and if any ones knows what is it then great.....

When I have the key on the ON position i get a clicking noise that is comming from underneath the intake manifold by where the injectors are. At the same time there is a clicking sound the yellow light turns on the Inter-X which is label "Ignition"........

So I am taking out the manifold and double checking that all is Kosher under there.......

Like i said if anyone knows what would cause this sound in that area by the injectors please tell me!!!!!!

Thank you

BTW sorry for the late responces i get out of work @6pm

The clicking is the SSV bouncing open and shut.
Known Int-X "problem".

The clicking is the SSV bouncing open and shut.
Known Int-X "problem".

What is the fix????
And should the ignition light on the interceptor-x go on exactly at the same time???

opening it somewhere other than at the fast idle RPM :) I set mine to open at 1800RPM

opening it somewhere other than at the fast idle RPM :) I set mine to open at 1800RPM

Well this is when the key is in the ON position, but not realy on....

Would this cause the car not to go over 25000rpm???:banghead:

Nope

Does the throttle open properly? It is in limp mode if it doesn't....

Do you have any weird CEL codes??

Nope

Does the throttle open properly? It is in limp mode if it doesn't....

Do you have any weird CEL codes??

The only codes that came up is system too rich in bank 1 .....

I also did check and the throttle opens wide 90 degrees....

Weird....does it do anything else weird?

Did you check the INTx setup screens to make sure there is no revcut or revlimiter set?

Weird....does it do anything else weird?

Did you check the INTx setup screens to make sure there is no revcut or revlimiter set?

I have the intake mainfold of at the time to verfy that all injectors was connected well. GAMECHILD send me a screen shot of all the screen to verf that everthing matches. Hopefully i finish everything by tonight...... but off to work!!!!!!!:banghead:

So....

I traded interceptors with GAMECHILD and my car seemed to run fine. It went upto and passed 3000 rpm.

I just sent the interceptor to the boys at Mazsport to verify the problem.....

Once i get it back i will make sure to post a youtube vid of it.....

Thanks to all for the advise, it helped alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok so here is the status... and yea it is still not up and runing...
Scott did determine that there was something wrong with the inter-x so right now it is in Australia being repaired...
I bought the Cobb AP thinking that that would solve everything...
So i start it and attempt to get out of my driveway...
I noticed that everytime i start going need boost the car just bounces around like i am going over 1 million speed bumps.....
I am pretty sure this is not MM maps because they have been working on other members rides...
Any ideas????
BTW these are my mods.....
Esmeril turbo kit
1000cc secondary injectors
esmeril ignition system
rp supercat
b&b exhaust
and there is also ton of smoke.... it is night but appears to be blue....
AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:banghead:

make sure your injectors are hooked up correctly
olddragger

Well this is when the key is in the ON position, but not realy on....

Would this cause the car not to go over 25000rpm???:banghead:

25K?
Mine won't go over 10K.....

Its the MAF tube.

Esmeril turbo kit

Last time I checked, you need a blow through setup with that kit.

Last time I checked, you need a blow through setup with that kit.

a blow thru set up???

The reply - a blow thru set up??? - is not an encouraging sign.

It may in fact indicate that one is immersed over ones head....


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The reply - a blow thru set up??? - is not an encouraging sign.

It may in fact indicate that one is immersed over ones head....


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Well if the Emseril Kit is "blow through" set up or not i would not know.

I only followed the instruction provided by esmeril and later confirmed that the Interceptor-X was faulty. Scott told me himself.

Blow thru means the MAF sensor is after the turbo.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/Migiviper/RX8Turbo001.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/Migiviper/RX8Turbo002.jpg

Now MM did recomend that i am to increase the size of the MAF pipe to 3.5, not the 3.0 that you see above.

I am going to have that done tomorrow however both the BOV and the MAF will be on the same pipe.

I was told 6 inches from the throttle body and 6 inches away from the BOV.

Is this correct????

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/Migiviper/RX8Turbo001.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/Migiviper/RX8Turbo002.jpg

what you have and all emseril turbos have is a blow through design. i dont think mm has made maps for the ap, yet..

beers :beer:

wow, that engine bay is cluttered.
after I installed my GReddy turbo kit, I was wishing it had a top mounted turbo like yours...but after seeing some close ups, I'm glad I got the Greddy

my engine bay looks nice and clean

Now MM did recomend that i am to increase the size of the MAF pipe to 3.5, not the 3.0 that you see above.

I am going to have that done tomorrow however both the BOV and the MAF will be on the same pipe.

I was told 6 inches from the throttle body and 6 inches away from the BOV.

Is this correct????

Yes; you want to be as far away from any air turbulance that you can be. And changing the pipe to 3.5" is taking it back to stock size so the scaling is closer and allows for more airflow.

I hope MM is right about the MAF tube causing this problem.

If you want, Ill help you go back to stock and you can sell the car........ lol

Yes; you want to be as far away from any air turbulance that you can be. And changing the pipe to 3.5" is taking it back to stock size so the scaling is closer and allows for more airflow.

Thanks kane for the info.....

I just ordred a 3.5 diameter maf pipe and should get it tomorrow....

Then i cross my fingers and if not, I buy a 2008 GTR............. j/k

Be sure to have some screens made to - that might help.

Best way to do it; is set it all up and idle the car - see if the MAF reading is a)stable and b) between 5.5 and 7 Grams per sec.

So i had a 3.5 inch maf pip manufactored for me and now the STFT is about 0%, however it just wont drive. Again it bounces around when it does come close to load. So what i also did is change the 1000cc injectors the Esmeril Kit came with and installed the oem. The same.
I am just going to give it to a Rotary shop near me to fix the problem. After 3 months of waiting, I give up..

Thanks for all the help. And i will post a vid on here once its running....:ylsuper:

Super old post but i am having the exact problem/situation........what did u do???

Same issues here!!! I need some answers.....