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Migi'sBatmobile 07-12-2008 11:38 PM

Turbo Install Help!!!!!!
 
OK this is the first time I attempt anything like this.....

I just finished installing the Esmeril Turbo Kit on my car and is will not run...

At first we thought is was a fuel pump issue so we changed it back to stock.. same..

Second we thought it was the fact that we deleted the factory air pump but then we plugged in all of the senors and nothing still, it just bounces off of idle and then off the car goes...

We then attempted to switch the ecu to stock and the car idled fine, but then we i attemted to drive the car would just turn off....

So i figured it must be the Interceptor and maybe the map that was installed....

Has any one who installed the Esmeril kit had the same problem?????

Thanks for any help you may provide........

StealthTL 07-13-2008 12:19 AM

"Idleing fine but won't drive" sounds like a MAF sensor problem, but I realize the Int-X uses a MAP - is the hose perfectly clear of kinks and sharp bends?


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Gmanigio 07-13-2008 12:28 AM

With the stock ECU it will idle fine, but when he went to take off in reverse it died. It was trying to find 14.7 A/F fuel at idle and hade lean and rich stumbles at times, but takeoff in reverese wasnt happening.

Then we installed the int-X and it just wont idle AT ALL.

We will check for kinks in the line tomorrow...


Also, did the Int-X come with a Map sensor? Or is it the sensor behind the stock ECU?

truemagellen 07-13-2008 02:28 AM

The MAP on the Int-X is internal...so the hose connecting the Interceptor-X to the Intake Manifold is where it gets its pressure reading.

Please stop what you are doing and contact Esmeril Racing through our website (via the phone number). If you do not know what you are doing you could damage your engine.

Outkast187 07-20-2008 06:17 PM

x2, call them. Fastest way to the solution.

Gmanigio 07-21-2008 01:50 PM

They never pick up the phone....

Im_DANomite 07-21-2008 07:53 PM

if you plug in the stock ECU the car should run normally as long as you don't go into boost. if you say the stock ECU still doesn't keep the car running off of idle, i'd check the MAF first. make sure the throttle is plugged in and that you don't have any intake leaks.

dannobre 07-21-2008 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Im_DANomite (Post 2561487)
if you plug in the stock ECU the car should run normally as long as you don't go into boost. if you say the stock ECU still doesn't keep the car running off of idle, i'd check the MAF first. make sure the throttle is plugged in and that you don't have any intake leaks.

If the injectors or stock this will work...but if the injectors are larger then it's a no go.....

Im_DANomite 07-21-2008 08:13 PM

he didn't mention bigger injectors

Gmanigio 07-22-2008 01:33 PM

The kit comes with secondary injectors. SO when do those come into effect on the RX-8??

The car WILL NOT REV past 3000RPMs, even when flooring it at idle.

All sensors are plugged in. MAF worked before the install. TPS is plugged in as well.

Im_DANomite 07-22-2008 05:53 PM

is this with the stock ECU?

Migi'sBatmobile 07-22-2008 06:08 PM

Yeah we made a couple of attempts..

The funny thing is when i idle with the stock ecu, it idles fine and then i start driving, once i let go o the clutch the car just starts bouncing like a mad man????
This stops after 3rd gear... Again with the stock ecu...

Now with the Inter-X the car idles finally but does not go higher then 3 thousand rpm. But while it is a 3 thousand the car backfires like crazy and i have blue smoke coming out. I read this some where on the forum and this was caused by the ignition coils. My coils are the originals and have 48 thousand miles. I ordered the Esmeril Ignition system and we'll see how this goes....

If you guys like i can post a vid on YouTube if this would help diagnose the problem.....

Thanks for everybody's help!!!!!!!!

dannobre 07-22-2008 07:13 PM

Check the Eccentric shaft sensor and the MOP connections as well. Anything that will put the car into limp mode will make it run like that.

Mine did something similar that turned out to be the MOP...for some reason it got confused?? and needed the switch to be reset....

Check to see if the throttle is opening properly...mine wasn't which is a dead giveaway that it's in limp mode

Migi'sBatmobile 07-22-2008 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 2563036)
Check the Eccentric shaft sensor and the MOP connections as well. Anything that will put the car into limp mode will make it run like that.

Mine did something similar that turned out to be the MOP...for some reason it got confused?? and needed the switch to be reset....

Check to see if the throttle is opening properly...mine wasn't which is a dead giveaway that it's in limp mode

MOP connections???

Sorry I'm a newbie and learning as i go........ lol

Nevermind found it, gotta love this forum..... Metering Oil Pump

We didn't touch this at all, you think it could be the problem???? We'll actually the instructions did make us heat shield it, I'll included photos tomorrow in the day time...

Gmanigio 07-22-2008 09:26 PM

We did slap the MOP a few times with that manifold...LOL

We reset the ECU also, so wouldnt that kick it out of limp mode?

SO its either a vacuum leak, which I doubt, or a sensor problem.....

dannobre 07-22-2008 10:15 PM

Check and see if the throttle opens......

When my MOP was fubarred it would go into limp mode immediately after a reset.....

Im_DANomite 07-22-2008 10:33 PM

it doesn't sound like a vacuum leak or ignition problem. like dannobre said, something is causing it to go into limp mode. again, double check the throttle. see if you can pull some codes out of the ECU. also, check all your grounds.

swoope 07-22-2008 10:49 PM

also check the injector wiring. that has been an issue with changing injectors.. the wiring is not as intuitive as it seems..

mazdamaniac has a sticky on injector wiring...

beers :beer:

tajabaho1 07-22-2008 10:49 PM

my mazsport did this also, it turns out it was the knock sensor, which i randomly hit when putting in the oil feed line, which doesn't matter now........not anymore

Migi'sBatmobile 07-23-2008 07:51 PM

The only codes that come out is P0127 i think, which is too lean in bank 1, thats all.......

I only got a Misfire code once but that was in the beginning....

I just got my invoice for the ignition system so hopefully that helps, if not the it is straight to the tuner, or mechanic....

Of cousre i cannot take this to the dealer anymore, they would look at it and say WTF???? IS THIS THE 09 VERSION????? :lol2:

Migi'sBatmobile 08-10-2008 12:50 PM

Status Check.....
 
Ok wel here is a status on my car so far.... Esmeril Turbo Kit

I just installed the esmeril ignition system and that seemed to helped. While installing the coils we noticed that one of the vacum hoses were not connected so we took off the entire intake manifold off just to triple check that everything was installed correctly.
Now with the stock ecu the car idles fine and goes past eh 3 thousand mark so i guess the car is out of limp mode.
However with the Interceptor-X, the car has a rough idle and will not go higher than 2,500 rpm. My guess is that i would just need to get the Inter-X tuned and that should be end of it...

Once i have more info i will def post it here and my final HP/TQ numbers...

Thanks....

dannobre 08-10-2008 01:15 PM

Did you check the rev limit setting on the IntX..maybe someone played a funny on you and set it at 2500 RPM??

tajabaho1 08-10-2008 02:44 PM

^n idled funny, serious base map issues

Migi'sBatmobile 08-10-2008 07:41 PM

To be realy honest i am not realy that familiar with the Microsystem program to do that. I did peak around but stopped myself from changing anything.....

Its raining right now but GAMECHILD is attempting to send me his maps from esmeril to see if there are any differences...

Does anybody know if the Inter-X is not plugged in for about a week does the information erase????

dannobre 08-10-2008 08:32 PM

No...info will not erase.....


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