View Full Version : AcessPort vs E-Manage


WingleBeast
06-08-2008, 07:21 PM
to get down to basics, do i need both? I plan on getting the GReddy turbo kit, and i know i can adjust maps on the e-manage that comes with it, so do i still need the AcessPort? Will e-manage turn off the speed limeter?

any other conflicts i have missed? im just not sure how adjusting the stock maps would help if i can just overwrite them with the e-manage anyway. If i do get both and i need to fix an issue, what is better to adjust, the ECU with the acessport or the piggyback e-manage maps.

thanks

mysql
06-08-2008, 07:22 PM
get the ap. forget about emanage.

WingleBeast
06-09-2008, 02:39 PM
so i can run a turbo without the e-manage? that would be convenient, but i would have to get accurate fuel and ignition maps from somewhere

and probably a boost controller. right?

Jasonawojo
06-09-2008, 02:40 PM
so i can run a turbo without the e-manage? that would be convenient, but i would have to get accurate fuel and ignition maps from somewhere

Yes, the AccessPort with the proper map makes the eManage unneeded as it builds the needed fuel and such into your PCM map rather then you needing a separate computer to modify the tune. The nice thing about buying an AP through MazdaManiac is that he will provide you with working maps for your setup for free, as part of you purchasing the unit through him.

WingleBeast
06-09-2008, 02:56 PM
im new to the boards, and i already love all of you.

but serious, now the hard question, can i buy the turbo kit without the manage? or am i just going to have to e-bay it after i buy the kit. and if i ebay it i have to unlock it so others can use it right....

such a small question gets so complicated

and also, is a boost controller compleately nessicery for a system without the e-manage, or can that be set manually through the wastegate without buying a controller. And if i were to buy a controller would i need 2 different maps for 2 different boost settings?

mysql
06-09-2008, 02:58 PM
the proper answer is to buy the BHR turbo kit, you get the AP, and you get a much more powerful GT3071R turbo, plus upgraded fuel injectors, cold air intake, upgraded couplers, etc.

legendkurado
06-09-2008, 03:37 PM
+1 on the bhr

Jedi54
06-09-2008, 03:49 PM
Black Halo Racing turbo is SOOOOOOOO much superior to the stock greddy. (Greddy has stopped making their turbo setup)

+1 on BHR turbo + AP. You'll love the combo, just look at Mysql's pics / videos.

mysql
06-09-2008, 03:51 PM
greddy stopped making their kit?

Jedi54
06-09-2008, 03:53 PM
I thought I heard Ray mention it. I could be wrong...

MazdaManiac
06-09-2008, 03:54 PM
greddy stopped making their kit?

They are talking about another production run, but they are gone for the moment unless you can find one in new/old stock.

WingleBeast
06-09-2008, 03:57 PM
is the BHR turbo basically the same as [greddy kit + MM upgrade + cobb accessport]

mysql
06-09-2008, 04:01 PM
They are talking about another production run, but they are gone for the moment unless you can find one in new/old stock.

wow. So they're giving up and will just be making manifolds for you guys? Sounds like they can see a good thing coming.

Floyd
06-09-2008, 04:08 PM
is the BHR turbo basically the same as [greddy kit + MM upgrade + cobb accessport]

Basicly yes except they have contracted Greddy to alter their piping to BHR's specs so no fabrication is required by MM or the end user.

WingleBeast
06-09-2008, 04:26 PM
and last but not least, if i get the BHR setup or the greddy with the MM upgrade, the site claims more HP is available (which i believe with a 3071R) what would all be nessicerry to push it up higher? I know you would need

bigger injectors
coil upgrade
fuel pump
exhaust

not counting wear and tear items (axels, differentals or tansmission) what elts would be nessicerry to up the boost?

Jedi54
06-09-2008, 04:28 PM
if you're going for more then 300-330 that should be achievable with the kit, you'll probably want a fuel pump and DEFINITELY upgraded coils. (get those from BHR as well) Starting to see the pattern? BHR = 1 stop shopping. :)
as for exhaust: get rid of the stock catalytic and a better flowing exhaust.

WingleBeast
06-09-2008, 05:59 PM
dont worry a full length turbo exhuast has been on the shopping list for a long time

Razz1
06-09-2008, 11:49 PM
E manage = piggy back

AP = full control

tajabaho1
06-10-2008, 07:19 AM
Don't listen to Razz, he's kinda coo coo ever since he got the AP.........

btw, I wonder whether the AP can work with the E-manage

since i already have an EMU and still want to run nitrous with a turbo

and yes, no one can stop me from inevitably blowing up into a pile of scrap/organic matter