About two years ago at Mazsport we started selling and installing our turbo kits for the RX-8 and during that time we have received numerous emails and phone calls from customers who love the looks and the high quality components but were finding the price tag just out of reach. The requests have continued and now that more engine management systems are in the marketplace we have decided to offer our turbo systems in a more cost effective "tuner" package.

We will now be offering our type 1 or type 3 turbo kits in a 300rwhp package. This approach will allow Mazsport to provide you with the EXACT SAME high quality components as our standard kits making the upgrade a dyno proven sequence of steps. When you want more power just pickup the telephone and we will be happy to answer questions and advise you of the required components to achieve your desired power levels.

The typical upgrade path:

300rwhp- Either the type1 or 3 kit and you provide your choice of engine management

330rwhp- Either the type1 or 3 kit and a boost controller or larger wastegate spring

350-375rwhp- Add the remaining injectors, fuel pump, Interceptor-X and our Ignition Solution!

400rwhp- add race gas and turn up the boost:)

Unlike smaller frame turbo's and manifolds you will not be required to replace components of the kit to reach the next power level, you simply upgrade to the required components. We have dyno'd our kits at 380RWHP and by adding the components listed above you can determine how fast is fast enough.

Below is a description of the Type 1 kit contents.

* Dual ball bearing water and oil T-4 flange turbo
* Stainless steel oil feed and return lines with required fittings
* Stainless steel water feed and return lines with required fittings
* Stainless steel 44mm Tial wastegate with v-band clamps
* Stainless steel custom made tubular turbo manifold
* Stainless steel downpipe w/standard 3bolt triangular flange
* Stainless steel v band clamp
* #1 charge tube
* #2 charge tube
* #3 charge tube (at throttle body)
* (please specify type blow off valve desired when ordering so appropriate flange can be fitted)
* Large bar and plate "air to air" intercooler
* Intercooler mounting bracket and hardware
* Reinforced silicone charge tube couplers
* 10 stainless steel T-bolt clamps
* Type 1-3.5 inch fresh air intake system compatible with most flash tuning software
* 2 silicone intake couplers
* 5 stainless steel Intake Clamps
* K & N Cone Style Air Filter
* Mazsport Left and Right Motor Mount Kit and required hardware
* 2 new 780cc Secondary Fuel Injectors
* 2 Fuel Injector Connectors
* All required injector o-rings and seals for a plug and play installation
* 20 feet of Silicone Vacuum Hose
* Battery relocation tray and hardware
* Small and Large Tie Wraps
* Gasket, T4 Flange
* 4 Bolts & Nuts for Turbo Flange

As you can see our kits are very complete and do not contain any mild steel tubing or cloned knockoff parts. We pride ourselves on using only high quality components.

Pricing for the kits are,

Type 1 $5500 usd

Type 3 $6000 usd

Ceramic and powder coating are available.

All new Mazsport products include the Mazsport advantage. If you need technical support along the way simply give us a call and you can speak to one of our staff members who perform professional installation of our products everyday.

sweet.

what type of warranties come with each kit? (kit, engine etc.)
do you have regional affiliates who are authorized to do the installs?
what type of maintenance is required?

Scott, great stuff. Have you guys tried your kits with AP tuning or has most of it been done with Int-X?

I am not looking to start another useless Int-x vs AP thread, just wondering.

really nice. very competitive pricing.

sweet.

what type of warranties come with each kit? (kit, engine etc.)
do you have regional affiliates who are authorized to do the installs?
what type of maintenance is required?

We stand behind the kit and the turbocharger has a one year warranty.

I will be happy to recommend someone in your area for the install.

Change the oil every 2,000 miles for maximum service life and take 5 minutes to visually inspect things during the oil change. That's about it.

Scott, great stuff. Have you guys tried your kits with AP tuning or has most of it been done with Int-X?

I am not looking to start another useless Int-x vs AP thread, just wondering.
Thanks Jedi! Yes I have used the AP with our kit's but I was using a 3inch intake not the 3.5inch supplied with the kit.

Nice new prices !!

So now Mazsport, Esmeril and MM turbos are almost at the same price range
Scott throw some Int-x free wih purchase :)

Very Nice. Something more entry level with nice headroom built into it...

nice... removed the int-x(and its cost) from the package and cut pricing by $1,000!!!

gotta love the free market and some genuine competition......:lol:

Wow.

Now mazsport Has an affordable turbo!

nice... removed the int-x(and its cost) from the package and cut pricing by $1,000!!!

gotta love the free market and some genuine competition......:lol:

wow i missed some....

actually if you take the base price, add the fuel pump @$799 http://www.mazsport.net/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=18
and the injectors @$129 http://www.mazsport.net/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=84

your back at $6428 and $6928

then if you stick with their Int-X @ $1499 your back to $7927 and $8427 respectively


so really i guess the price cutting was a bit of a reach for me... its just more flexible packaging...... which is always a GOOD thing though! :)

Actually he stated it is enough to make 300 rwhp, if you add the other stuff then you have a 330-400 kit depending on what you add.

I like the idea of it, you can get his base parts and make an entry level kit, and then in the future add more to hit 400. He basically just broke the kit down some to make an affordable option. Slick marketing... I just don't like that it falls behind the MM kit until around 6300 rpms, doesn't sound like a fun street kit.:)

The MM also includes Engine management. Tra La La!

Actually he stated it is enough to make 300 rwhp, if you add the other stuff then you have a 330-400 kit depending on what you add.

I like the idea of it, you can get his base parts and make an entry level kit, and then in the future add more to hit 400. He basically just broke the kit down some to make an affordable option. Slick marketing... I just don't like that it falls behind the MM kit until around 6500 rpms, doesn't sound like a fun street kit.:)
Oh it really is a fun street kit, where do you shift when you are running your car hard?

Actually he stated it is enough to make 300 rwhp, if you add the other stuff then you have a 330-400 kit depending on what you add.

I like the idea of it, you can get his base parts and make an entry level kit, and then in the future add more to hit 400. He basically just broke the kit down some to make an affordable option.

yeah that was my point once i realized it wasnt a price cut... and i agree, i think its a GREAT idea that they've become more flexible....

I just don't like that it falls behind the MM kit until around 6300 rpms, doesn't sound like a fun street kit.:)

The MM also includes Engine management. Tra La La!


again i agree... and for me, the BHR/MM kit can make more than enough power for street or street/track. MY PERSONAL tastes wouldnt lean me towards anything else unless i was building a dedicated track car. and even at that the BHR/MM turbo would be plenty of power for me to learn on for a few years

Referring to the MM/BHR

That down low power will rocket you out of the hole.:FIREdevil

Oh it really is a fun street kit, where do you shift when you are running your car hard?
From a start you would have to dump your clutch at 6000 rpms or ride it for a bit, other wise grandma's Caddy will already be 5 cars out.

I'm not Condoning street racing, its just nice to have some low end power so you don't have to down shift 3 gears to accelerate. It does look like a good track kit, it would just be frustrating on the road.

Some people bought this car for track and some didn't.

Referring to the MM/BHR

That down low power will rocket you out of the hole.:FIREdevil

I have driven both. In the real world the powerband in our kit is seamless and has a very predictable, powerful pull.

Recent results:
300rwhp @7psi
340rwhp @10psi

NICE!! glad to see mazsport answer to the latest turbo kit news around here

I have driven both. In the real world the powerband in our kit is seamless and has a very predictable, powerful pull.


i would think that, barring a VERY poorly sized turbo, any kit would have a very predictable and seamless powerband as that will mostly be a function of proper tuning and boost controller usage, again given that the turbo is properly sized

again, glad to see you guys offering more flexibility now. any chance that you would be breaking up the type2 kit in a similar fashion in the future?

Referring to the MM/BHR

That down low power will rocket you out of the hole.:FIREdevil


From a start you would have to dump your clutch at 6000 rpms or ride it for a bit, other wise grandma's Caddy will already be 5 cars out.

I'm not Condoning street racing, its just nice to have some low end power so you don't have to down shift 3 gears to accelerate. It does look like a good track kit, it would just be frustrating on the road.

Some people bought this car for track and some didn't.

wow,

you worried about the 0 to 15mph race.. :) any straight line race is going to produce boost with a clutch release at 4k or more..

but you once again seem to miss the point..

btw, scott since the cat is out of the bag, check you email about the cat!;)

beers :beer:

Does the new basic kit have less reliability in any way than the other ones? Guess that depends a bit on what engine management you go for. Just curious.

wow,

you worried about the 0 to 15mph race.. :) any straight line race is going to produce boost with a clutch release at 4k or more..

but you once again seem to miss the point..

btw, scott since the cat is out of the bag, check you email about the cat!;)

beers :beer:

More power early on is a bad thing?

I never said the kit was bad, just that I prefer to have the extra 50 hp at 4000 rpm, rather than at 7800. Most races are lost in the first 60', but you didn't realize that I guess.

Releasing the clutch at 4000 rpms is a little easier on the drive train than a 6000 rpm launch, which in NA form is what I have to do, with a turbo it would be even more brutal. A kit that would pull me away from that would be nice. I don't do track but like to play around at the 1/4 & 1/8th from time to time.

I don't have to prefer the Mazsport over eveything else in the world do I?

Guys if you would like to have a 310rwhp kit with a quicker spool that's not a problem at all. We can simply put a smaller hot side on the turbo. When you are ordering the kit just let me know how you will be using the vehicle and I will size the hot size accordingly to maximize efficiency in your application. The point here is when you decide your ready for more than 310rwhp you wont have to replace the turbo, or manifold or intercooler etc. simply add to what you already installed!

Very Nice. Something more entry level with nice headroom built into it...
Exactly the point Red Devil!

I don't have to prefer the Mazsport over eveything else in the world do I?



No you don't but then why would everyone have to, or want to, be beaten over the head with what you think is best?

You should also keep in mind this is Scott's thread for his product release, not a general discussion thread, there are plenty of those around here where you can continue this if you like.

This looks like it will be a great offering from a proven and respected rotary tuner. Everyone on this board should be rejoicing not bickering like this. It wasn't too terribly long ago when people were begging for more options to come to market. They are here and more seem to be coming all the time.

OOO I like this idea. I've been throwing the idea of FI out for quite sometime now. All these kits available now its nice. Too many desicions.

Guys if you would like to have a 310rwhp kit with a quicker spool that's not a problem at all. We can simply put a smaller hot side on the turbo. When you are ordering the kit just let me know how you will be using the vehicle and I will size the hot size accordingly to maximize efficiency in your application. The point here is when you decide your ready for more than 310rwhp you wont have to replace the turbo, or manifold or intercooler etc. simply add to what you already installed!


I like the sound of that. Would it be the same price or does customizing it like that move it up the scale?

I like the sound of that. Would it be the same price or does customizing it like that move it up the scale?
No additional cost whatsoever Rocketman!

No additional cost whatsoever Rocketman!

very nice!!

again, glad to see you guys offering more flexibility now. any chance that you would be breaking up the type2 kit in a similar fashion in the future?
Absolutely! We will do that right now for those that are interested.

First I get the (Mazsport) transmission, then I get the (Mazsport) turbo...THEN...I get the (Hot)women!

First I get the (Mazsport) transmission, then I get the (Mazsport) turbo...THEN...I get the (Hot)women!
Defiantly get the trans and turbo first, a lot of women will try to talk you out of it.

scotts got jokes. :lol:

unfortunately its the truth. :(

are there dyno charts available for the new trim-level options? what about the different hot side setups, which you mentioned you could modify according to the customer's wishes?

this looks to be a great option! i'm glad it's being released.

are there dyno charts available for the new trim-level options? what about the different hot side setups, which you mentioned you could modify according to the customer's wishes?

this looks to be a great option! i'm glad it's being released.

Unfortunately no dyno's with the smaller hot sides at this time.

Until the release of this series most of the guys running our kits are split into two different groups. Those that want the ability to run 350+ rwhp from the get go or guys that were less than happy and have removed their greddy or upgraded greddy kits.

Actually just last week a customer shipped his car in from Alberta Canada for a switch to a Type2 Ver2 kit.

Unfortunately no dyno's with the smaller hot sides at this time.

Until the release of this series most of the guys running our kits are split into two different groups. Those that want the ability to run 350+ rwhp from the get go or guys that were less than happy and have removed their greddy or upgraded greddy kits.

Actually just last week a customer shipped his car in from Alberta Canada for a switch to a Type2 Ver2 kit.

So if these "300 series" kits upgrade type 1 and type 3, what is this type 2 ver 2 you keep talking about?:Eyecrazy:

type 2 = front mounted turbo (bling factor)

We revised the Type2 kit to further increase the efficiency. A larger intercooler with some new internal mods, larger heat exchanger with dual fans, new optional rotor shaped AST for the intercooler allowing you to pack the AST with ice!

We revised the Type2 kit to further increase the efficiency. A larger intercooler with some new internal mods, larger heat exchanger with dual fans, new optional rotor shaped AST for the intercooler allowing you to pack the AST with ice!

Sounds nice. Any difference in price?

Sounds nice. Any difference in price?

No, same price even though the components are more expensive for me. This kit in the 300series would be about $7400, let me get a pic.

This a picture of Roland and Vickys car in from PA.

Although it's not quite done I expect to start street tuning it this week then we will do the final lookover and cleanup before it ships back to them.

Actually just last week a customer shipped his car in from Alberta Canada for a switch to a Type2 Ver2 kit.

That would be me , im excited !
good idea with the new kit pricing Scott ,hope everything goes well.
I just sent u the pod and guages through the mail.

This a picture of Roland and Vickys car in from PA.

Although it's not quite done I expect to start street tuning it this week then we will do the final lookover and cleanup before it ships back to them.

It looks beautiful. Good to see new kits that are in my realistic price range.

That would be me , im excited !
good idea with the new kit pricing Scott ,hope everything goes well.
I just sent u the pod and guages through the mail.
Great BOwDOwN!
We will be looking for them this week. Scott

It looks beautiful. Good to see new kits that are in my realistic price range.
Thanks Falken, the rotor shaped AST is the actual outer dimensions of the rotor inside the engine. We thought it would not just function well but also make a good conversation piece at car shows.

This is nice to see. A step wise approach to satisfying your urge for grunt should help keep folks from getting jaded as quickly.

You might as well just pull the pin and get the full kit...you're just postponing the inevitable :lol2:

We revised the Type2 kit to further increase the efficiency. A larger intercooler with some new internal mods, larger heat exchanger with dual fans, new optional rotor shaped AST for the intercooler allowing you to pack the AST with ice!

whats the advantage to packing it with ice? i cant think the ice would last long enough for track use, so i guess what only leaves drag racing. i mean, i know drag racers pack ice individually for each race, but to set it for an rx8 seems unlikely. obviously rx8s drag race, i drag race, but it just seems unusual to make products specifically for rx8s drag racing.

Any idea for a projection date, I am very interested! Say maybe September?:uhh:

whats the advantage to packing it with ice? i cant think the ice would last long enough for track use, so i guess what only leaves drag racing. i mean, i know drag racers pack ice individually for each race, but to set it for an rx8 seems unlikely. obviously rx8s drag race, i drag race, but it just seems unusual to make products specifically for rx8s drag racing.

Quite a mouthful.

yep. i was a little drunk when i wrote that. ;)

Any idea for a projection date, I am very interested! Say maybe September?:uhh:
This series is available for purchase now, we are building kits every week!

Hey Scott, how many horse will I get with my type 1 and can I sell my MS CAI? Sounds like I will not need this CAI-if so its going up for sale.

*subscribed*

I might get flammed for this, but i gotta ask - payment plans?

Defiantly get the trans and turbo first, a lot of women will try to talk you out of it.

Quoted for emphasis.

I know the use of the AP with this kit has been touched on already, but it wasn't clear to me if Scott saying...

"300rwhp- Either the type1 or 3 kit and you provide your choice of engine management"

and

"I have used the AP with our kit's but I was using a 3inch intake not the 3.5inch supplied with the kit."

equates to Mazsport actually providing the AccessPORT maps if you purchase one of these kits?

Thanks,

Yes we will provide Interceptor-X, Hymee or Cobb mapping:)

Scott, I'm interested in the Type 3 kit. I'm already running Mazsport Ignition Solution and have Hymee SPT.

1. Did you do any dyno run of this kit with SPT tuned maps? Could you please post it? Any issues with MAF & intake tube?
2. You mentioned you clocked a lot less on the dyno using AP compared to Interceptor X. Is it the same with Hymee?
2. What about the dwell adjustment with SPT?

My RX-8 is JDM though.

I have seen the top of the mountain, and it is good. :smoker:

Looked through this thread and didn't happen to see any answer to this but in step 3 of upgrading these kits to 350-375 you said :

350-375rwhp- Add the remaining injectors, fuel pump, Interceptor-X and our Ignition Solution!

what size injectors are the "remaining injectors" since it already comes with 2 780cc Secondaries?

We use two additional 650cc injectors which will provide enough fueling for over 380rwhp.;)

ah ok. thank you scott.