View Full Version : In Road & Track the new Rx-7 looks hot!!!


donack456
05-06-2008, 05:32 PM
In Road & Track the new Rx-7 looks hot!!! Suppose to have an upgraded Rx-8 engine in it and sleek as glass. Though its only predicted to have 250hp and be on a modified Mx5 frame with higher low end torque this car should be hot. Can't wait for it to come out and its starting price will be about what an Rx-8 cost today.

Sounds like buiscut, gravy you add the meat.

alz0rz
05-06-2008, 05:33 PM
orly?

dozer
05-06-2008, 05:35 PM
nice....any links?

robrecht
05-06-2008, 06:02 PM
nice....any links?
Repost: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=144782

SayNoToPistons
05-06-2008, 06:25 PM
Bs...

Icemark
05-06-2008, 06:37 PM
Though its only predicted to have 250hp and be on a modified Mx5 frame with higher low end torque this car should be hot.

Kinda funny how the MX-5 is on a modified RX-8 frame... In fact, you can even use RX-8 stabilizer bars as an upgrade on a MX-5

so since the writer didn't already know that... how much truth can you expect in any other part of the article.

donack456
05-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Kinda funny how the MX-5 is on a modified RX-8 frame... In fact, you can even use RX-8 stabilizer bars as an upgrade on a MX-5

so since the writer didn't already know that... how much truth can you expect in any other part of the article.


Don't hang the messager I'm only reporting what was writen in R&T you can believe it or not its a free world. But when I breeze by you this new sleek baby just remember I told you so. In another Thread above this one is the complete story. But to support my statement here is the quote from the review.

"With the MX-5 firmly established in Mazda's lineup, the new rotary-powered car will most likely be a 2+2 with distinct sports-car styling. That it will be built on an extended MX-5 platform is a given, which means it will share the dimensions and proportions of the Kabura concept car. Expect upper-and-lower A-arm suspension systems at both ends, as well as a low curb weight, something south of the 3000-lb. mark ".

I didn't write it or say it R&T said it. Don't mean its true but it does mean I'm only the messager of good news.

superglue
05-07-2008, 01:26 PM
Don't hang the messager I'm only reporting what was writen in R&T you can believe it or not its a free world. But when I breeze by you this new sleek baby just remember I told you so. In another Thread above this one is the complete story. But to support my statement here is the quote from the review.

With the MX-5 firmly established in Mazda's lineup, the new rotary-powered car will most likely be a 2+2 with distinct sports-car styling. That it will be built on an extended MX-5 platform is a given, which means it will share the dimensions and proportions of the Kabura concept car. Expect upper-and-lower A-arm suspension systems at both ends, as well as a low curb weight, something south of the 3000-lb. mark .

I didn't write it or say it R&T said it. Don't mean its true but it does mean I'm only the messager of good news.

Sounds more like an RX-8 than an RX-7.

jayk
05-07-2008, 03:15 PM
Sounds more like an RX-8 than an RX-7.

Are you referring to the bolded pieces in your quote? Distinct sports car styling and 3000lb weight? Seems to me both apply equally well to either car. 2+2 could also be either car, though I don't think they ever sold rx-7's with back seats in the US, at least in the third-gen model.

nvrfalter
05-07-2008, 06:56 PM
http://www.fmjmotorsports.com/link/repost-dennis.jpg

superglue
05-07-2008, 07:44 PM
Are you referring to the bolded pieces in your quote? Distinct sports car styling and 3000lb weight? Seems to me both apply equally well to either car. 2+2 could also be either car, though I don't think they ever sold rx-7's with back seats in the US, at least in the third-gen model.

Considering that the RX-8 is essentially a 2+2 with distinct sports car styling and weighs a hair over 3,000, what's the difference? :squint:

raspyrx7
05-07-2008, 08:39 PM
Are you referring to the bolded pieces in your quote? Distinct sports car styling and 3000lb weight? Seems to me both apply equally well to either car. 2+2 could also be either car, though I don't think they ever sold rx-7's with back seats in the US, at least in the third-gen model.


hrm, well I know the FC's did for sure, and I believed the FD's had some as well... but would have to search to be 100%.

raspyrx7
05-07-2008, 08:40 PM
Considering that the RX-8 is essentially a 2+2 with distinct sports car styling and weighs a hair over 3,000, what's the difference? :squint:

2 door vs 4 door :spank:

REsuperD
05-07-2008, 08:44 PM
fd's were never sold with back seats in the us; in japan there're back seats on some models. here some people get the parts and put them in, but have you seen what kind of room it is? it's basically like the *back seats* on old 911's

in fc's rear seats were optional here but relatively rare. i've seen a number of them tho

i wouldn't call the rx-8 a 2+2; it's a proper 4-seater. in 2+2's the rear seats are usually jokes, more like small buckets for backpacks

Renesis07
05-07-2008, 09:57 PM
....... That would be retarded, that car is an RX8 with 2 doors and Mazda would call it an rx7 as a marketing scheme. Think about it, 4 seats, 3000lbs, 250 NA horsepower = RX8.

GOOD DAY.

superglue
05-08-2008, 12:28 AM
i wouldn't call the rx-8 a 2+2; it's a proper 4-seater. in 2+2's the rear seats are usually jokes, more like small buckets for backpacks

It's close enough to a 2+2 to where there is no need for an RX-7 2+2 with the similar power and curb weight. Don't get all caught up in the semantics. The RX-8 is close enough R&T's description of the supposed RX-7 to where the provided description isn't believable. What they described sounds more believable as a redesigned RX-8 than an all new RX-7.

Renesis07
05-08-2008, 12:49 AM
It's close enough to a 2+2 to where there is no need for an RX-7 2+2 with the similar power and curb weight. Don't get all caught up in the semantics. The RX-8 is close enough R&T's description of the supposed RX-7 to where the provided description isn't believable. What they described sounds more believable as a redesigned RX-8 than an all new RX-7.

yea but people associate fast/power to the RX7, not RX8. I guarantee although similar to the RX8, they would call it the RX7 for marketing purposes.

jayk
05-08-2008, 10:46 AM
It's close enough to a 2+2 to where there is no need for an RX-7 2+2 with the similar power and curb weight. Don't get all caught up in the semantics. The RX-8 is close enough R&T's description of the supposed RX-7 to where the provided description isn't believable. What they described sounds more believable as a redesigned RX-8 than an all new RX-7.

The rx-8 is essentially a redesigned rx-7 with a set of hidden doors, so what is the difference if they want to put performance back into the mark and start calling it an rx-7 again? Don't forget we are not just talking about the fd3s, the rx-7 family of cars has gone through so many changes that they could have called the rx-8 an rx-7 and nobody really would have complained. The only reason (IMHO) that they changed the name to an 8 was to market it to a slightly different audience.

jayk
05-08-2008, 10:48 AM
Considering that the RX-8 is essentially a 2+2 with distinct sports car styling and weighs a hair over 3,000, what's the difference? :squint:

That's my point...

zoom44
05-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Though its only predicted to have 250hp and .

that 250 quote by then is ridiculous. it will have at least 280.

zoom44
05-08-2008, 01:08 PM
Kinda funny how the MX-5 is on a modified RX-8 frame... In fact, you can even use RX-8 stabilizer bars as an upgrade on a MX-5

so since the writer didn't already know that... how much truth can you expect in any other part of the article.


you know - all the mags say it that way now. even when talking about the kabura (which it seems to me is what we are really talking about here - a production variant of the kabura) instead of saying "shortened RX-8 platform" they say "modified MX-5 platform" i dont know why the switch or mix up..

superglue
05-08-2008, 01:42 PM
The rx-8 is essentially a redesigned rx-7 with a set of hidden doors, so what is the difference if they want to put performance back into the mark and start calling it an rx-7 again? Don't forget we are not just talking about the fd3s, the rx-7 family of cars has gone through so many changes that they could have called the rx-8 an rx-7 and nobody really would have complained. The only reason (IMHO) that they changed the name to an 8 was to market it to a slightly different audience.

They could have called it an RX-7, but they called it an RX-8 and maintained rumors of bringing back the RX-7. Unless they plan on killing off the 8, why have two very similar rotary powered sports cars? There's not enough to differentiate the two. If the description said 2 seater coupe well under 3000lbs, that would make more sense. But similar weight, power, seating isn't enough to separate two rotary powered sports cars.

jayk
05-08-2008, 02:16 PM
They could have called it an RX-7, but they called it an RX-8 and maintained rumors of bringing back the RX-7. Unless they plan on killing off the 8, why have two very similar rotary powered sports cars? There's not enough to differentiate the two. If the description said 2 seater coupe well under 3000lbs, that would make more sense. But similar weight, power, seating isn't enough to separate two rotary powered sports cars.

True. I guess what I'm getting at is that I don't really see the need to differentiate by name. They are essentially the same car except the rx-8 has decent back seats and trick doors. So the next rx-7 will just be another evolution of the rx-8. Maybe not body style and seating configurations, but to me those are both negligible when considering the true essence of a car. So I don't think they plan on killing the rx-8, but I also don't think you'll see it in its current form when it is replaced by the rx-7 (or whatever they end up calling it).

Socr8tes
05-08-2008, 04:31 PM
that 250 quote by then is ridiculous. it will have at least 280.

Or at least Mazda will say it's 280. :suspect:

zoom44
05-08-2008, 04:46 PM
They could have called it an RX-7, but they called it an RX-8 and maintained rumors of bringing back the RX-7. Unless they plan on killing off the 8, why have two very similar rotary powered sports cars? There's not enough to differentiate the two. If the description said 2 seater coupe well under 3000lbs, that would make more sense. But similar weight, power, seating isn't enough to separate two rotary powered sports cars.

its not similar weight at all. the target for this rx/mx whatever is 2400lbs. its RandT saying under 3k that make sit seem similar. there is a huge difference between what this car will be and what the RX-8 is.

zoom44
05-08-2008, 04:54 PM
True. I guess what I'm getting at is that I don't really see the need to differentiate by name.

because you're not understanding. for clarification instead of thingking of the cars like a G35 sedan and a G35coupe think of them more like a

JC Cosmo(RX-8)

http://www.alamorotary.com/images/hires/SilverCosmoJC.jpg

and an RX7(NEW RWD Coupe)

http://www.mazdarxsource.com/mazda-rx7-images/second-gen-mazda-rx7-fc.jpg

superglue
05-09-2008, 03:09 AM
its not similar weight at all. the target for this rx/mx whatever is 2400lbs. its RandT saying under 3k that make sit seem similar. there is a huge difference between what this car will be and what the RX-8 is.

I'm just going by the article dude. I haven't heard anything about 2400lbs which would not only make it lighter than an FC body and even the current MX-5. That would be one tiny car.

rx8phase1
05-09-2008, 03:38 AM
i dont like how the rx-7 is gonna look it looks like the kabura the old style looked waaaay better

Icemark
05-10-2008, 12:05 AM
you know - all the mags say it that way now. even when talking about the kabura (which it seems to me is what we are really talking about here - a production variant of the kabura) instead of saying "shortened RX-8 platform" they say "modified MX-5 platform" i dont know why the switch or mix up..

Perhaps because readers know what a MX-5/Miata is more than a RX-8

Razz1
05-10-2008, 12:48 AM
You need to learn how to understand what you read.

They said they don't know the name of the car with a 16x It could be a RX7 or something else.

Sure the number is there in print.

Also the HP is way off.