Seriously I was laughing the other day with this car, because I've had it for a certain amount of time, and theres so much that I want to do with the car, I have like a list full of stuff i want to add to the car, but don't have that much money to do it all at once haha. I could probably create a song out of it all, but the thing is, even without a bunch of stuff added on, I really love this car, I don't think theres another car I would take under 50k over this one

I dont know thats my rant for the day, lol I don't know how you guys can keep up if you have gf's/wives. I mean just the other day I spent $250 on little stuff (Clear Corners, Custom LED footwells, and puddle lights), and you know i have my eyes set on new rims and tires, a new exhaust, a body kit, coilovers, sway bars, a nav system, and the final piece, The turbo ......................

I'm gonna need to start selling drugs or something to afford what i want =[

Just do it over time. I've had mine for 2 years, done TONS of things to it and there's still a bunch of items on my "to do" list.

Well, for me, you just have to pay attention to the tiny little spending that you usually never pay attention to

Like say, cut down your *eat/dine out* times. When you hang out, buy less junk like drinks, candies, snacks, etc.

a buck or 2 each time does not seem like a lot, but when you add it all up, you'll probably save over 1000s of dollars a year.

Plus of course find a more decent paying job, stop working at McDonaldos :)

we do it slow and steady.....that way the wives dont realize exactly how much we spent

It's a pretty common theme amongst "car" folks. In order, I've had an '86 Chevy IROC Z28 with 305 and auto. Next up, was a '94 Mustang Cobra that I I spent a TON of money on. Now, I have an RX 8 and this is by far the best of the three.

Get a part time job, working nights or weekends. Or, if possible put in as much OT as you can at your current job. DO NOT start using credit cards to fulfill your mod appetite, you will be deep in debt before you know it.
Do something lucrative in cash earnings such as waiting tables, bartending, night club work, even delivering pizzas! Laugh if u want but those fellas can bring home some good tip money on a Sat. and/or Sun. shift (considering ur not using ur 8 for the deliveries!) To me, NO 2nd job is too "low" or embarassing when it comes to extra cash for modding ur ride. Your buddies may laugh, but ur the one rollin around in a bitchin ride when all is said and done.

I hear ya. Between performance, appearance, and audio stuff I want to do to this car, I could easily sink 20-30k into it...

I dunno.. I kinda love this car the way it is

sometimes you have to make a decision between food and mods. seriously, you have to take it one thing at a time. oh and yeah, throw in another $900 for tires every so often.

stop working at McDonaldos :)


NYC do you have a bit of hispanic blood in you dog? :lol:

I dunno.. I kinda love this car the way it is

Amen. Mazda spent a lot of money and time getting this car just right. Stock all the way.

NYC do you have a bit of hispanic blood in you dog? :lol:

lol

Well, MikeyDs aint a bad choice if you just want to get maybe 150 bux a week part time.

Its great for a lot of people, if I have nothing to do, I might think about it.

its not a bad choice for people who needs money fast you know.

i came up with a budget. i set myself 100 bucks a week for stuff like food, gas, and other stuff. i have my bills spread out over the course of the month, and then the rest of the money goes into "savings" which is another word for mods :lol2:

^^^yeah ANYWHERE making extra money is worth it IMO. If you can get a job at Mcdonalds then you should be able to get a job as a waiter or bar back somewhere where you get some cash tips as well as the other "perks" of those job types.
I worked security for night clubs since college, cant tell you how many times i walked out with extra cash for providing "special treatment" among other things, LOL...

I'm gonna need to start selling drugs or something to afford what i want =[

+1 :)

Use my motto: Better living through debt...:lol:

Just upgrade things as they wear out.

AND

Buy bits and pieces in advance for some major item such as suspension. That way you can spread things out a bit.

or just sell drugs. easy money.

I just got a part time job a local tuner shop to help feed my mods bug!

i have to find me one of those ^

I just got a part time job a local tuner shop to help feed my mods bug!

LOLL!!!

getting paid what?! a small-time commission that ends up getting pwned by Uncle Sam's taxes anyways?!?! :squint:

all jokes aside, if you really want good money for your rx-8 mods, then slangin some drugs on the side is the easiest/quickest way to raise some money.

and don't think im kidding or anything because all you know that i'm speaking the sad truth here :squint:

Your post reminds me of how I felt 20 months ago when I bought mine.

With some, um, less than stellar credit issues to clear up I've still managed to sink about [undisclosed_in_case_the_missus_sees] into the 8. All while doing a good job of getting the "important" stuff cleared up.

Budget your $$$ money well, cut out the stupid little stuff like NY said. It's amazing how much you save making your own damn ice coffee!! And just accept that maybe that turbo is farther down the road (if at all :()

And all of it gets done over time. Like you, I spend a quick couple hundred w/tint, corners, strakes, and accents. The other stuff took more time. Enjoy!

oh, and it helps to snatch an old ladies purse once it a while - they really have no chance of cathing up to you.

hahaha i love you guys, luckily for me my mom has this guy who she's working for whos rich and gives her $11 an hour to do his work, and most of it is easy, so im doing it for 9 an hour under the table, I've already made $60 in a day!!! unfortunatly if i have money its normally gone quick, haha but if i really want something bad enough i'll save. When i was 16 I got a part time job for 8 weeks at $50 a day and saved up the money for an $800 big screen tv =[, i dont know how lol.

Budget your $$$ money well, cut out the stupid little stuff like NY said. It's amazing how much you save making your own damn ice coffee!! And just accept that maybe that turbo is farther down the road (if at all :()

:squint:

alright son, i think your missing the point that i'm trying to get across here...

imagine this:
you can KEEP ON shelling out cash to buy your favorite drink at your local Starbucks, you can KEEP ON buying needless stuff for your own pleasure, etc etc.

selling some light drugs is THE ONLY way that you can do all this while pursuing mods for the rx-8!!! unless your part of a high income family :squint:

BUSH'S taxes will thwart any whatsoever legal course of action (an honest job, the LOTTERY!) you may take to raise money for modding your car.

what options does a good, moral man have when there are no more good choices with benefits? :squint:

hahaha i love you guys, luckily for me my mom has this guy who she's working for whos rich and gives her $11 an hour to do his work, and most of it is easy, so im doing it for 9 an hour under the table, I've already made $60 in a day!!! .

:squint: ...

lol...my point exactly. :icon_no2:

Listen kid, PM and we can talk about this with the alternative source of income i was just talking about.

or do you want to grow up to be making 11 dollars an hour (less after Uncle Sam pwns you...) until you die?!?!

if not just PM me and i'll see what i can do for you...

ok, no one cares about you selling drugs or any of that shit.

for the OP, set a budget, stick to it, and slowly but surely the mods will come

:icon_no2: for the OP, set a budget, stick to it, and slowly but surely the mods will come

let me re-state what i've been trying to say for several posts now...:icon_no2:

NONE OF THAT IS NECESSARY!

LOL, yeah Mikey. Thats why your car is so modded, right? U dont have shit on ur ride and ur on here acting like Pablo Escobar? Is one thing to make jokes or imply things, but lets not get too caught up in your little fantasy world, ok big papi? I highly doubt a legit dealer would be here on this website trying to recruit some kid for "work". Now, a small timer who sells enough to support his own habit may do something like that, hmm.......

My 8 is stock and will likely stay that way apart from maybe a tint job come summer. I've had a JDM STi conversion 2.5rs. I want to keep the 8 in full stock trim as much as possible and enjoy what Mazda has done. Now modding goes to my wife's wagon. ;)

i love my car, but not enough to go to jail for. you really need to stfu. i had enough drugs when i was 14.

^ +1

I spent a lot on my SPYN wheels when I first got the car because I wanted black rims and was pretty inexperienced about selecting rims. I don't *mind* the spyn's but now I realize they're not what I really wanted and are too heavy (25.5 lbs!). So, gotta be careful spending cash on this car and make better choices. I think axis reverbs would be a pretty decent choice. But I agree with OP, it's damn expensive to keep this up and I don't see it ending in the near future.

:squint: ...

lol...my point exactly. :icon_no2:

Listen kid, PM and we can talk about this with the alternative source of income i was just talking about.

or do you want to grow up to be making 11 dollars an hour (less after Uncle Sam pwns you...) until you die?!?!

if not just PM me and i'll see what i can do for you...

Sounds like you have a growing business.....

I hate it when people want something they can't afford they automatically think that they need to sell drugs or something. It's so stereotypical. You ever think about going to school, get a degree and work for some big coporate company that pays you over 60,000 or 70,000 per year, so that you can buy whatever you want without having to sell drugs? lol. Gosh man....you need to change the way you think and start thinking BIG!

I hate it when people want something they can't afford they automatically think that they need to sell drugs or something. It's so stereotypical. You ever think about going to school, get a degree and work for some big coporate company that pays you over 60,000 or 70,000 per year, so that you can buy whatever you want without having to sell drugs? lol. Gosh man....you need to change the way you think and start thinking BIG!

For Christmas I'm buying YOU a sense of humor... :rofl:

I just got a part time job a local tuner shop to help feed my mods bug!

What shop?

Amen. Mazda spent a lot of money and time getting this car just right. Stock all the way.

Exactly. Why would you need to change anything?

Look at the list of "mods" in my sig. One of them isn't even a mod to Zoomy - it's a mod to my EZ-Pass so it won't distract.

Ken

For Christmas I'm buying YOU a sense of humor... :rofl:

I think a few more could do with that Christmas present around here Jedi...!

me, i'm only planning on modding little things which i plan to do slowly over time. i've got it planned out and will just purchase as available $$ comes in.

I just ordered brakes (just stock for now), AFE SS, and clear corners... Still looking for an exhaust, and considering a nitrous kit. This should keep me occupied for a good couple of months cos I work pretty slow :lol:

we do it slow and steady.....that way the wives dont realize exactly how much we spent

if you want to do it right, you need to plan ahead.

Just make sure you underestimate your income to your wife. It's not missing if you never had it, right?

Sounds like you have a growing business.....

Well i'm sorry but if the lad i was referring to has a choice between making $11 an hour AS AN ADULT or selling drugs...it's pretty obvious which way you have to go in order to properly mod your car.

If slangin isn't your thing and your situation is similar to this fella's, i'll see you in the next couple YEARS when you've finally saved up enough for an exhaust :yelrotflm :yelrotflm :yelrotflm

modding cars is like crack. you can get addicted.

been there done that. i keep telling myself that if i buy an RX8 I won't mod it. then i laugh b/c i know within 90 days i'll be ordering an exhaust or coilovers. :)

i spent about 10,000 in mods on my last car. parts/labor/bodywork/paint. damn it was fun.

mods > crack

if you want to do it right, you need to plan ahead.

Just make sure you underestimate your income to your wife. It's not missing if you never had it, right?

Have your employer withhold extra money from your paycheck and deposit in a separate bank account :yelrotflm

For Christmas I'm buying YOU a sense of humor... :rofl:
Before you do that you need to get a job to be able to afford that. so good luck! ha!

I know it's a joke...but it's not funny when you say it everytime you see someone driving something better or someone spending a lot cash and you can't.... it just makes you look like you're just being bitter.
I used to have this friend who said it everytime he saw someone driving an expensive car or something he couldn't afford. He's like " that guy's gotta be selling drugs...or a drug dealer.... I was like "dude, have you ever thought that they might be engineers or doctors ..or something?" After awhile it's not funny anymore. :icon_tdow

i would rather earn my money the right way and spend it on mods

my rotary accents from rotary13b1 just came in yay!

DAMN IT!!! I have such a LOVE / HATE relationship with this forum.

I love all the info and people, but I HATE the fact that I just found another mod that I want to buy.

what is it?

It's a secret. IF I told you, I'd have to kill you...

you can always PM me, then kill me

that is an option. :FIREdevil

sooo . . . . ?

ive had my car for about 6 months now, it came stock except for the GT package, most of my mods are in my signature. ive spent about 6 grandish?

Plan what you want the focus of the car to be, decide on your purchases, set budgets, and stick to it. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. Body kits and subwoofers do not a performance car make.

we do it slow and steady.....that way the wives dont realize exactly how much we spent

Ha ha.... another wise man

:beer:

lol to the guys making fun of me and saying how i should go get a real job .......... well thats why im going to college full time, I mean I know it won't always be like this but at 22 Making that much isn't so bad around here while i go to school, Im actually getting a masters =[ the thing Is I get a lot of grants and scholarships that normally pays for school (at the moment at least) and I know it won't always be that way ;), The drugs thing was a joke, I could do it yeah, but its just kind of shady from what i've seen (my brother is a major pothead, his best friend was a dealer in our town, and my cousin has been dealing since he was 18 and he's 26 now) thats all the small stuff though lol im not talking about the other type of drug dealers.

I mean I know what I have to do, I just hate waiting and saving up like 5g's, plus you have to remember i want to do all this stuff and i JUST bought the car ........ and still making $400 a month payments =/

count yourself lucky if you have enough scholarships to pay for college... some of us have loans well into the 5-figure range on top of rent, car payments, insurance, etc... that's why the 60k job comment kind of made me laugh.. ain't nowhere near enough to have money to mod a car

^^^Add a girlfriend to that mix and you aint got sheeeeit for modding. Did 90% of mine prior to the g-friend, since then...........:crying:

The best plan I have had so far is to
- Spec out a car and configuration you want
- Buy car - and all mods all at once (say your budget is 70K...)
- Then fix all the little things you break as time goes on.

IMO - the 8 is wayyyyy more fun to mod since I am working off a budget of money already gone out of my accounts (so to speak); no buyers remorse or saving up.

My other cars were more long term which was OK; but to be honest I didn't really get to feel the impact of my "dream" car all at once. I knew I loved the 8 my wife found for me; but the HP was going to be a prob; so I just fixed it right off the bat before I even drove it.

I have never even DRIVEN a NA rotary in my life; but I don't think I really need to.

lucky ^

Seriously I was laughing the other day with this car, because I've had it for a certain amount of time, and theres so much that I want to do with the car, I have like a list full of stuff i want to add to the car, but don't have that much money to do it all at once haha. I could probably create a song out of it all, but the thing is, even without a bunch of stuff added on, I really love this car, I don't think theres another car I would take under 50k over this one

I dont know thats my rant for the day, lol I don't know how you guys can keep up if you have gf's/wives. I mean just the other day I spent $250 on little stuff (Clear Corners, Custom LED footwells, and puddle lights), and you know i have my eyes set on new rims and tires, a new exhaust, a body kit, coilovers, sway bars, a nav system, and the final piece, The turbo ......................

I'm gonna need to start selling drugs or something to afford what i want =[

Naw don't sell drugs, I'll pimp you out on the 'RX8 Dating service'....:rollingla:

drugs ftw!

it's all good Kane, you can drive the N/A Tie Fighter next time you're in Cali.

Schweet! - I love Black cars... just hate to wash them!

(Will I have to get out and push it uphill?) - :rofl: - I keed I keed.

PS - Guess what I got for you Jedi????

Schweet! - I love Black cars... just hate to wash them!

(Will I have to get out and push it uphill?) - :rofl: - I keed I keed.

PS - Guess what I got for you Jedi????

c'mon, it's ME we're talkin' about. The car will be freshly washed and zaino'd.

You got me an Iraqi LightSaber????

:lol: @ "PPO2 Performance"

c'mon, it's ME we're talkin' about. The car will be freshly washed and zaino'd.

You got me an Iraqi LightSaber????


Yeah - dind't you see it in the Flame thrower thread? HAHA

Think smaller - but it is Black... and Gold. And blocks the sun.

:lol: @ "PPO2 Performance"

eh???

LOL at "PPO2 Performance"

huh??? Flame thrower thread?
Damn it, I go on vacation for a week and I miss all the fun stuff.

LOL at "PPO2 Performance"

I don't get it.

huh??? Flame thrower thread?
Damn it, I go on vacation for a week and I miss all the fun stuff.

Wow - it got deleted....

no wonder I couldn't find it using the search option. Thought it was just our retarded search engine not doing it's job again.

I emailed the pic to Chet - and then deleted it....

Maybe he will post it.

***Paging Chet***

I don't get it.

You don't get out much? (On the internet, that is :lol2:) I thought it was a standard way of saying something is funny..

When I first saw that logo in someone else's sig I figured it was Kane's doing, but now I have proof :rofl:

LOL at "PPO2 Performance"

Seriously, I am curious now - it actually is kind of a joke / play on words - I am just wondering if you figured it out.

I get the LOL part, just couldn't figure out why you were laughing @ Kane's logo. ;)
Didn't know if you were laughing at the logo, if you knew the meaning behind it (kane posted it a while back) or if you were just razzin' Kane

lol to the guys making fun of me and saying how i should go get a real job .......... well thats why im going to college full time, I mean I know it won't always be like this but at 22 Making that much isn't so bad around here while i go to school, Im actually getting a masters =[ the thing Is I get a lot of grants and scholarships that normally pays for school (at the moment at least) and I know it won't always be that way ;), The drugs thing was a joke, I could do it yeah, but its just kind of shady from what i've seen (my brother is a major pothead, his best friend was a dealer in our town, and my cousin has been dealing since he was 18 and he's 26 now) thats all the small stuff though lol im not talking about the other type of drug dealers.

I mean I know what I have to do, I just hate waiting and saving up like 5g's, plus you have to remember i want to do all this stuff and i JUST bought the car ........ and still making $400 a month payments =/

Good for you, man, doing the college thing! You are going to be so much better able to afford to mod your 8 (or whatever you have when you get a good job) because of it. :)

I find this "mod bug" has gotten a hold of me and probably some others here and it's hard to stop. I've been depressed a few times looking at the awesome rims and other parts that some of you guys have and I wish I had. But that's such a negative spiral. It's not a competition and we just gotta do what makes us happy without comparing to others. And lotsa people here have kept their 8's completely stock and are loving it.

So I just wanted to say kudos for getting a higher education and wish you luck in the future.

this is for kane and jedi

oh HELL YA!! My neighbors are gonna LOVE IT!!! (I think some guy on my street just bought a Crossfire....this will come in handy)

Seriously, I am curious now - it actually is kind of a joke / play on words - I am just wondering if you figured it out.

Nah I don't get the play on words but we you were talking about PPO2 for a while in the nitrous threads so I figured it must be you ;) Nice logo, too.. Little oxygen molecule there...

It's really not that hard. If you go on Yahoo Groups, they have groups or clubs that show you how. Apparently, even if you are below average size, you can push your head and neck against a wall on one side and push your butt/back against something like a staircase. Just keep fricking pushing like mad hell from both sides and your mouth should be able to reach.

Nah I don't get the play on words but we you were talking about PPO2 for a while in the nitrous threads so I figured it must be you ;) Nice logo, too.. Little oxygen molecule there...

HEHE - yeah - I thought that was a nice touch...

Remember - Sex is like oxygen; it is no big deal unless you are not getting any!

Jedi - can you imagine what kind of hero you wold be if you got pics of Flaming a Xfire; literally.

I would go down in RX-8 club history. :FIREdevil

Too many acronyms...... AHHHHH

PPO2 is not Paradox Performance(P2). I understand the slight confusion. P2 will be my shop in AZ and BHR is my parts division.

Aah, things make sense now.. I was confused by the name change..

PPO2 is not Paradox Performance(P2). I understand the slight confusion. P2 will be my shop in AZ and BHR is my parts division.

so whats so funny? it doesn't come out to what i think it is...does it?
p...oop? how come i don't get it?

i also whore my body out occasionally for extra change......

i sell extra stuff laying around on ebay...

Too many acronyms...... AHHHHH

thats why i have both of them in one

thats why i have both of them in one

Yes but the halo on your "Black Halo Racing" logo is white... :yelrotflm

thats cause its negative.

so whats so funny? it doesn't come out to what i think it is...does it?
p...oop? how come i don't get it?

Partial Pressure of Oxygen = PPO2

Useful stuff - makes cars go ZOOM and means the difference between life and death for Divers.

i like that oxygen and sex joke. havent heard that in a long time

word of advice.. you're young don't waste any time or money with this stuff until after you've achieved a successful career.

I did. I went to jr college, then transferred, earned my four-year degree (BFA), paid no attention to costly hobbies, just focused on getting out of school and starting my career. Now I'm 37, I have 11 years of experience in the software biz and earn a cozy six figure salary. Save and invest your savings, make more money and re-invest. That 30k car over 5 years would cost you so much more than you realize. I have enough assets to retire comfortably right now. I plan to retire in 2 years when my options vest...

The amazing thing is that I don't think I am an extraordinary person in any way.. I am not particularly smart (c average in high school, b average in college), nor do come from a rich upbringing (I still live in middle class suburbs here in southern california since I was 5 years old). All I did was start a career in IT, and invested most what I made, rather than blow it on toys, cars and chicks... (Not that I'm a loner, I am getting married this year). Just find things to do that are fun and cheap or free. And try to save wherever you can. America is a free market, so use your freedom to find cheaper alternatives to things you need. Most of all, moderation is key. I could have bought a Ford GT with one of my stock sales, but instead I reinvested it and that same money could now buy me three of them.

I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I tend to because I smile when I think how simple it is, yet so many people squander their opportunities to enjoy 'now' rather than later. If Steve Jobs decided to get himself that hotrod over buying supplies for his computer biz, he probably wouldn't be where he is today.

word of advice.. you're young don't waste any time or money with this stuff until after you've achieved a successful career.

I did. I went to jr college, then transferred, earned my four-year degree (BFA), paid no attention to costly hobbies, just focused on getting out of school and starting my career. Now I'm 37, I have 11 years of experience in the software biz and earn a cozy six figure salary. Save and invest your savings, make more money and re-invest. That 30k car over 5 years would cost you so much more than you realize. I have enough assets to retire comfortably right now. I plan to retire in 2 years when my options vest...

The amazing thing is that I don't think I am an extraordinary person in any way.. I am not particularly smart (c average in high school, b average in college), nor do come from a rich upbringing (I still live in middle class suburbs here in southern california since I was 5 years old). All I did was start a career in IT, and invested most what I made, rather than blow it on toys, cars and chicks... (Not that I'm a loner, I am getting married this year). Just find things to do that are fun and cheap or free. And try to save wherever you can. America is a free market, so use your freedom to find cheaper alternatives to things you need. Most of all, moderation is key. I could have bought a Ford GT with one of my stock sales, but instead I reinvested it and that same money could now buy me three of them.

I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I tend to because I smile when I think how simple it is, yet so many people squander their opportunities to enjoy 'now' rather than later. If Steve Jobs decided to get himself that hotrod over buying supplies for his computer biz, he probably wouldn't be where he is today.

I like this message.

Squidward says> am 37 and getting married this year

I say>> what's wrong with u son?
That's kinda OLD to start a family/get married. UNLESS this is your third/fourth marriage. LOL or ur marring a spring chick.
Think about it, when your 12 year old son wants to play ball u will be 49. u wont be able to the "fun"

I think Squid is doing it the right way. He's not going to get married or start a family until he's ready financially and emotionally.

Also, the western world is changing. We're not farming-minded anymore but rather career-minded. Too many people still get married way too early and end up divorced and having kids for the wrong reason. It's ok to have kids even at 50, as long as your wife is 26.

word of advice.. you're young don't waste any time or money with this stuff until after you've achieved a successful career.

I did. I went to jr college, then transferred, earned my four-year degree (BFA), paid no attention to costly hobbies, just focused on getting out of school and starting my career. Now I'm 37, I have 11 years of experience in the software biz and earn a cozy six figure salary. Save and invest your savings, make more money and re-invest. That 30k car over 5 years would cost you so much more than you realize. I have enough assets to retire comfortably right now. I plan to retire in 2 years when my options vest...

The amazing thing is that I don't think I am an extraordinary person in any way.. I am not particularly smart (c average in high school, b average in college), nor do come from a rich upbringing (I still live in middle class suburbs here in southern california since I was 5 years old). All I did was start a career in IT, and invested most what I made, rather than blow it on toys, cars and chicks... (Not that I'm a loner, I am getting married this year). Just find things to do that are fun and cheap or free. And try to save wherever you can. America is a free market, so use your freedom to find cheaper alternatives to things you need. Most of all, moderation is key. I could have bought a Ford GT with one of my stock sales, but instead I reinvested it and that same money could now buy me three of them.

I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I tend to because I smile when I think how simple it is, yet so many people squander their opportunities to enjoy 'now' rather than later. If Steve Jobs decided to get himself that hotrod over buying supplies for his computer biz, he probably wouldn't be where he is today.


so basically what you are saying, is dont have fun when your young cause you can have fun later. well, excuse me for being rood, but fuck that. we are supposed to have fun when we are young, because you will never be able to do 90 % of the things you do when you are young, than when you are old and retired. Everyone says save for retirement, yada yada yada. i put 10% of every check into my 401K, if i need more i have plenty of time for it being only 18. my point is, why bore yourself when your young, just so you have half as much fun when your older. you only have 1 life, live it up

Chet - I agree in some respects - I say have all the fun you can afford when your young; without SCREWING yourself over when your old.

But my midlife crisis came at 24 - LOL; so I admit I am weird.

I also don't have money worries; so I can afford to play in the mud and muck for a living.

Chet - I agree in some respects - I say have all the fun you can afford when your young; without SCREWING yourself over when your old.

But my midlife crisis came at 24 - LOL; so I admit I am weird.

I also don't have money worries; so I can afford to play in the mud and muck for a living.

1. Agree x 10
2. Mine came at 25
3. I have one teenage girl and one 20 y.o daughter...and boy do I have money and deadbeat boyfriend worries....!:lol:

3. I have one teenage girl and one 20 y.o daughter...and boy do I have money and deadbeat boyfriend worries....!:lol:
Better you than me.... hah; sorry but my brothers have daughters and I razz them all the time - I had a son, then ran off quick and got fixed - haha.

Chet - I agree in some respects - I say have all the fun you can afford when your young; without SCREWING yourself over when your old.


thats what im doing. i am doing pretty good as long as i dont give myself a credit card. if that would happen, i would have to knock myself out before i go 10 grand into debt

You both got some valid points ...

I start working when I was like 12, so I know how does it feel to have *fun*.

Now, Im 27 (28 in a few months), I fuck around for a long while, work, fuck around, work ... now I went back to school trying to finish up my degree. not that I really need it. but Im just trying to do something that *I should've done years ago*.

I consider myself kinda old already. Time flows like a river. By the time you realized that you're getting old it probably too late.

So, just have fun while you can ! As long as it will not affect your future ~~~

well i have one credit card, i use it for gas and food only (i set my restrictions on that card) and that adds up to 2-300 a month. so i just pay that off every month, and as i do that, it builds my credit up in a good way.

word of advice.. you're young don't waste any time or money with this stuff until after you've achieved a successful career.

I did. I went to jr college, then transferred, earned my four-year degree (BFA), paid no attention to costly hobbies, just focused on getting out of school and starting my career. Now I'm 37, I have 11 years of experience in the software biz and earn a cozy six figure salary. Save and invest your savings, make more money and re-invest. That 30k car over 5 years would cost you so much more than you realize. I have enough assets to retire comfortably right now. I plan to retire in 2 years when my options vest...

The amazing thing is that I don't think I am an extraordinary person in any way.. I am not particularly smart (c average in high school, b average in college), nor do come from a rich upbringing (I still live in middle class suburbs here in southern california since I was 5 years old). All I did was start a career in IT, and invested most what I made, rather than blow it on toys, cars and chicks... (Not that I'm a loner, I am getting married this year). Just find things to do that are fun and cheap or free. And try to save wherever you can. America is a free market, so use your freedom to find cheaper alternatives to things you need. Most of all, moderation is key. I could have bought a Ford GT with one of my stock sales, but instead I reinvested it and that same money could now buy me three of them.

I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I tend to because I smile when I think how simple it is, yet so many people squander their opportunities to enjoy 'now' rather than later. If Steve Jobs decided to get himself that hotrod over buying supplies for his computer biz, he probably wouldn't be where he is today.

Being smart with your money is never bad advice. But don't wait to live your life... That logic makes you into one of those 60yo guys at the Porsche dealer :eyetwitch

You don't have to spend money just to have fun (I have plenty of hobbies that don't cost a dime), but you also don't have to give up on a hobby just because it is perceived to cost lots of money. If I love driving and working on my car, I'm not gonna tell myself "this $10k I plan to spend on a turbo now is going to be worth 100k in 30 years when I retire ". Set some targets, make a budget, don't screw yourself by racking up debt you can't pay off, and have fun. You don't really need food anyway :lol2:

And for the kids still in college: if you can con your parents into giving you money for mods, by all means feel free :lol:

It's true that in the States most people live too much off debt (I have a friend that graduated from college and went on to grad school with $10k worth of credit card debt... Grad school, as in no real income), but I believe that you might be too far on the other end of the spectrum. At the end of the day, money is only just that. You can always make more money. You can never get back the years that you spent saving up and waiting for your life to start :)

The best thing to do is to have a handful of credit cards that you routinely use and pay off.

You can fit a whole lot of cards in one hand :lol:

On another note, sometimes not paying off a balance in full can be a good thing too. If you spend years paying off your card then suddenly make only the minimum payment, I'd bet you the first thing the cc company does is increase your limit. :icon_no2:

You can always make more money. You can never get back the years that you spent saving up and waiting for your life to start :)

EXACTLY!!!

Starti says>>even at 50, as long as your wife is 26.

I ask>>Anyone of you have a 24/26 sister or daughter for me to marry? Must not be too fat. Send pic of car!!!
wud like to be like starti says.old over 50 but with a young chick, children should be no problem.

I am like what squid says. I come from a very poor souther family. Worked my way thru college, so did not marry till in my 30s..Did not work..I was too set in my ways..so was she. so need a young one I can train.lololo
I waited to late to get married, but did save monies so now I dont have to work. paid cash for my shinka.

conclusion. Have fun while u can, enjoy life but don't forget to plan for tomorrow. Don't be like those..who say..I will do it tomorrow..and tomorrow never comes.

My credit score is 12 - that is good right? Kinda like golf?

The point is that once I developed some clarity as to what I wanted, retirement from a job that was making me miserable was no longer an option. Truly enjoying that which I did for a living became my ultimate goal. I only now wish I had done this sooner.....

Words to live by :)

even though i have no motivation to go to school, i think i might go for automotive engineering or auto tech. its free, so why not

even though i have no motivation to go to school, i think i might go for automotive engineering or auto tech. its free, so why not

I've been trying to find a community college around me that offers some sort of auto tech courses but no dice :banghead:

Speaking of mods... my AFE SS just came in the mail! :ylsuper:

I've been trying to find a community college around me that offers some sort of auto tech courses but no dice :banghead:

samne here. i hope some tech schools have it. i dont know where i would go to school for auto engineering though

Speaking of mods... my AFE SS just came in the mail! :ylsuper:

my coilovers are arriving today :wiggle: :jump: :buttslay: :bluesuit: :blue: :us4allswi :fruit:

sweet.. what are you getting?

Tein Basic Coilovers

They're not even on the car yet and you've already updated your sig? Cheater :lol:

that isnt cheating. i own them, so they go on my sig :lol2:

^ you be quiet. vendors dont count in this matter :D:

Hey Chet, you got it together man! Even if you don't, who cares, you will. I totally agree that you gotta have fun when you're young. By the time reality sets in, you will have to finish school and work until you're old. I have a real hard time in my teaching job (high school science) because it's my job to get the students to work hard, be responsible, and all those things we rebel against as teenagers and yet I know THIS is the time for fun because very soon they will be on the treadmill and it's all downhill (meaning bills, job, long hours, pressure). I feel like a hypocrite trying to teach them how important it is to do their schoolwork all the while knowing the "good ole' days"will soon be behind them. Still, I do it.

My situation (without getting too personal) is that I was a complete fuckup at school. Kicked out at age 16 when I was in grade 10 (ie. behind my peers). I hated school and this was back in the 70's so it was all a big PaRtY. I went back to high school when I was 23, on to university in science, and started teaching at 30. I just turned 46 so have been teaching for 16 years. I've got a great salary (all things considered) and have learnt many lessons. But I only started saving for retirement 4 years ago. But man, did I have a blast when I was young.

I'm not physically fit as I was, losing lots of hair, etc. If I had to do it all again, I'd do exactly what I did. Not everyone finishes school right off. It took me a number of years before I realized how important education was ... and THEN I went back and did my duty. I tell kids this all the time. They don't all pass, they don't all care. No big deal, it takes time for some of us. If you (Chet) go back to school anytime soon, I say, right on! Definitely do it. But for god's sake, life is too short and too friggin' stressful to freak out about getting such a great education when you're a teenager. What does it get you? You wanna be a doctor with all that stress? Is money really what will make you happy? My brother's wife is a radiologist making $700,000 a year (way too much imo, not at all fair to the rest of us) but she is so stressed out and misearable. I am thankful I didn't get accepted to med school because it would have destroyed me.

Finally, I hate to admit this, but I went bankrupt a number of years ago. Really poor financial skills, credit cards. The big "B" taught me how to live off my earnings and only pay cash. It took many years to get back into the loop but now I have lots of credit and am pretty careful. Mind you, I feel myself slipping into the black hole of mods to some extent.

Good luck man and hang in there!

Thanks alot Zerobio. everyone says i should go back to school, because its free (harley-davidson pays for tuition). but i dont know what i want to do. i know its something auto related, whether its engineering, or design, or w/e. but i make really good money for only being 18 (18 an hour) and for the most part, i enjoy what i do. i just hate the repetiveness of working everyday. but im not going to let anyone pressure me to go to school, because i have time. as soon as i figure out what i want to do, i will do it whatever it is.

but what i really dream of is to become a professional driver for autocross or F1 or something like that. i have talked with the VP of the SCCA about how to get my professional drivers license, but it will take quite a bit of $$. so maybe in summer i will go ahead and do it. but otherwise, i live my life one day at a time.

Chet, that's great stuff. If your company pays for tuition you should definitely take advantage of it, just don't let people pressure you into studying, that's a recipe for disaster. I went to college because my parents said so, and I now realize I missed alot of opportunities while there just because I didn't have the correct mindset about it.

Also, keep in mind that 18 an hour is great when you're 18, but 3-4 years down the road it will no longer be so great :)

Pro racer huh.. That's quite a lofty goal. Best of luck to ya

Chet, I can hook you up with someone who may be able to guide you along a bit on that pro-driver ambition. The most important thing in being successful is to have a definite vision as to what it is you wanna do. The next thing is to place yourself in the position to be mentored by those who have not failed, but succeeded, in that which you would like to do. After that, start to hang around those people, not as a fan, with the intention of learning everything you can.

The reason people are telling you to go to school is because to have an employer foot the bill is a rarity that you shouldn't pass up. School isn't just about the rechnical info you'll glean from the curriculum. It's moreso about the networking opportunities you'll have,

We'll talk next weekend. Better bring your notepad and pens.

screw that, im bringing my laptop. my handwriting sucks really bad. and i can type faster than i write. i look forward to next weekend very much

Chet, that's great stuff. If your company pays for tuition you should definitely take advantage of it, just don't let people pressure you into studying, that's a recipe for disaster. I went to college because my parents said so, and I now realize I missed alot of opportunities while there just because I didn't have the correct mindset about it.

Also, keep in mind that 18 an hour is great when you're 18, but 3-4 years down the road it will no longer be so great :)

Pro racer huh.. That's quite a lofty goal. Best of luck to ya

i have a lack of motivation to go to school though. i was one of those kids in school who never studied, or did homework, but aced the tests somehow :lol2:

but maybe if i meet or talk to the guy charles is referencing to, i will go. but only time can tell. Thanks though

i build the stuff myself if I can help it.

so basically what you are saying, is dont have fun when your young cause you can have fun later. well, excuse me for being rood, but fuck that. we are supposed to have fun when we are young, because you will never be able to do 90 % of the things you do when you are young, than when you are old and retired. Everyone says save for retirement, yada yada yada. i put 10% of every check into my 401K, if i need more i have plenty of time for it being only 18. my point is, why bore yourself when your young, just so you have half as much fun when your older. you only have 1 life, live it up

You know, chet, I do agree with you in some ways as well. I was reading over my post and I did get the sense that I was sounding just like my old man haha.

But don't get me wrong, I didn't want to make it sound like I had absolutely no fun as a young adult. I had a blast in fact.. Otherwise I would have probably made it to a four year university after high school. But no I think I was a pretty screwed up kid in high school also. I ditched alot of classes and got alot of D's. Even when I transferred to a JC (didn't even bother to apply to a university with my grades), I didn't take it too seriously. I really didnt' know what I wanted to do. But I knew I loved two things, computers and fine arts. So I took a chance and applied to CSUF in their art program. I didn't think I would get in, but I did. The art program there was great. I had chosen to become an artist without even considering what the career was like. (No one becomes an artist for the money!).
There at the university I made all these really cool friends, learned to smoke out, enjoyed girls, etc. And there I also did a lot of ditching. Art school was a breeze. When I got out of school after four years (should have taken 2, but I was enjoying myself too much), I had a $15k loan to pay off and only entry level opportunities for art grads that paid $13/hr. I admit, I was shocked at how little graphic designers were paid. I did absolutely no research on my career. I just thought the idea of being an artist was great.

I did know a little about computers (okay, alot, I'm a geek). My brother worked at a software company, and he said with my talent it wouldn't be hard for me to get my foot in the door... The fact that I was his brother also helped, I'm sure. Nevertheless, I was in, starting out at $25/hr as a senior software analyst.

Anyway I digress. Do what you want, but just remember--- the harder you work now, the less you work later. I saw how my dad worked his ass as a aerospace technician, up until he retired, and he did very little to save. Much of his money went to caring for our family, of which was a total of 7 people. As much as I admire my father, I didn't want to live his life. I wanted to live easily, and make sure that when I did have a kid, I would already be well off to take care of him or her. I grew up not having alot (other than family hardships). I wouldn't want that for my kid.. Thus only now am I getting married.

Think about it.. I'm retiring in two years.. that is, I'm 39, and I don't have to work PERIOD for the rest of my life. The interest on my investments earns me enough to live comfortably.

I think that's a hell of a better trade off to blowing all my checks to impress my friends (or myself for that matter)...