View Full Version : Official ZR1 press release


Lithium Lotus
12-19-2007, 07:07 PM
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0802_2009_chevrolet_corvette_zr1_first_look/index.html

More pictures
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/19/detroit-2008-the-king-is-back-atop-the-hill-2009-corvette-zr1/

chetrickerman
12-19-2007, 07:14 PM
DAMN that looks badass. and wow, a 4 lobe eaton supercharger. that thing will take on the supercars

dillsrotary
12-19-2007, 07:35 PM
yup, I want one.

BlueEyes
12-19-2007, 07:48 PM
This car is pretty badass. However, I just can't help but think that I would never drop $100,000 dollars on it. It just doesn't offer anything else but performance.

delhi
12-19-2007, 08:04 PM
Looks like Chevy didn't like how the GTR is ace-ing their Z06. So what they do? lighten the C6 and slap on a larger blower.
Do we have the beginnings of a US vs. Japan sports car rivalry? :D

BlueEyes
12-19-2007, 08:10 PM
The article says it's going to be 200 lbs heavier than the Z06 and have 52/48 weight bias.

dillsrotary
12-19-2007, 08:12 PM
This car is pretty badass. However, I just can't help but think that I would never drop $100,000 dollars on it. It just doesn't offer anything else but performance.

that i do agree on, but if I would compare to a GT3 porsche if I were shopping for such a vehicle.

delhi
12-19-2007, 08:16 PM
The article says it's going to be 200 lbs heavier than the Z06 and have 52/48 weight bias.

woops. another forum that i frequent quoted it lower.... :icon_no2:

nt5k
12-19-2007, 11:24 PM
Looks like they ran out of money while designing the interior...

Lithium Lotus
12-20-2007, 12:26 AM
Don't need an interior when passing Ferrari's and Porsche's.

YaXMaNGTO
12-20-2007, 01:12 AM
The component list and the numbers look great.

The car itself looks like crappola.

The exposed carbon fiber? It comes off as tacked on rice.

Those stupid looking vents? I don't care if they're functional... theyre ugly.

That color? :puke:

The window on the hood? Did some kid in the highschool intern design program come up with that? It's stupid!

The wheels look retarded, the rear "spoiler" looks like it's out of a cracker jack box, and even the ZR1 emblem looks like a kiddie bubble sticker.

Massive failure in the styling department. I'm so disappointed.

Renesis_8
12-20-2007, 02:07 AM
The exterior looks really bad, only the engine is good on that car.

and even the GTR has a way better interior than the vette.
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YaXMaNGTO
12-20-2007, 02:17 AM
Okay, so I found these picture... Maybe I just hate the bluegreen color. This admittedly looks a lot better. Not stupendous, but better.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/december2007/chevrolet-corvette-zr1-35.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/december2007/chevrolet-corvette-zr1-33.jpg
http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/december2007/chevrolet-corvette-zr1-40.jpg

chetrickerman
12-20-2007, 08:18 AM
what is that thing in the middle of the hood? it looks like a time sheet or something? :lol2:

Spinning Sushi
12-20-2007, 08:20 AM
what is that thing in the middle of the hood? it looks like a time sheet or something? :lol2:

It's a flux capacitor.

YaXMaNGTO
12-20-2007, 10:44 AM
what is that thing in the middle of the hood? it looks like a time sheet or something? :lol2:

It's so you can drive with the hood up and still see. Very convenient.

chetrickerman
12-20-2007, 10:47 AM
thats good and all, but you wont be going very fast with that huge air brake then

BigRed
12-20-2007, 10:51 AM
that actually looks sick imo...

EdwardsB
12-20-2007, 10:54 AM
what type of rear suspension do they have in the z06 and this?

EdwardsB
12-20-2007, 11:16 AM
^nm...i think its pretty sweet looking

playdoh43
12-20-2007, 11:23 AM
sick engine, looks really great too, I am looking forward to reading more about its handling when it comes out.

the current C6 vette have been criticized pretty heavily for its chasis which does not inspire confidence at the limit. This is why slower cars like the Porche 911 turbo and GT-R are able to out gun the Z06 it at Nurburgring. On a track with alot of straight segments, the 2 certainly did not out accelerate the Z06... light weight dosnt necessarily always translate to better performance.

Chevy needs to adjust not just the power for the Corvette to become a leading world class performer.

rotarygod
12-20-2007, 02:46 PM
Did anyone notice the fuel pressure that engine runs at? It has two pressures that the pump runs at depending on load. In "low" pressure mode, fuel pressure is at 3600 psi. In "high" pressure mode, it runs 8650 psi. Wow that's alot for gasoline and the highest I've seen yet for this fuel.

VarneyMazda
12-20-2007, 03:00 PM
Did anyone notice the fuel pressure that engine runs at? It has two pressures that the pump runs at depending on load. In "low" pressure mode, fuel pressure is at 3600 psi. In "high" pressure mode, it runs 8650 psi. Wow that's alot for gasoline and the highest I've seen yet for this fuel.

we own a chevy dealership and i was saying how much more the full pressure is compared to a 07 z06.

5 phone calls today for pre orders.
let the commission roll in daddy.


problem with these cars is 2000 to the U.S. first year.

talk about high demand

YaXMaNGTO
12-20-2007, 03:43 PM
sick engine, looks really great too, I am looking forward to reading more about its handling when it comes out.

the current C6 vette have been criticized pretty heavily for its chasis which does not inspire confidence at the limit. This is why slower cars like the Porche 911 turbo and GT-R are able to out gun the Z06 it at Nurburgring. On a track with alot of straight segments, the 2 certainly did not out accelerate the Z06... light weight dosnt necessarily always translate to better performance.

Chevy needs to adjust not just the power for the Corvette to become a leading world class performer.

You're on crack!!!! :lol2: C6 ZO6 criticized for handling? I'd love to know who the "expert" is you're talking to or where you're reading that.

"Out gun" at Nurburgring? What??? ZO6 ran 7:42, the 997 turbo 7:40 and the GT-R 7:38... and a whole slew of "world class" cars behind them. Crack.

playdoh43
12-20-2007, 04:04 PM
Best Motoring/Hot Version hosted by Tsuchyia and that professional Driver that won the GT500 class, I forget hes name. The episode where they tested the C6 vette, Elise and some other cars. They both heavily criticized the C6 chasis talking about how the progression during traction loss when cornering is not linear with that car, which makes it scary to drive fast.

The nervousness in handling near the limit is also documented in several magazines. I said the C6 chasis as a whole, not just the Z06.

throw the Z06 into a corner, and there’s a split-second hesitation between steering input and the chassis obeying your command…a trait that’s been lessened in successive generations of Corvettes, but not entirely eliminated.-road and track

It's uncomfortable, though, with sharp bumps in mid-turn, resulting in steering kickback and a little sideways bobble that saps confidence and throws your rhythm. The same wouldn't happen in a Ferrari F430 or Ford GT, two lofty targets to which the Z06 aspires.
-R&T
Several of us had driven earlier Z06s at other tracks, where we’d been unnerved by at-the-limit high-speed twitchiness. - Car and Driver

im too lazy to look further, but the nervousness of the C6 chasis when driven at the limit has been mentioned by many magazines, with the harshest comment I know of so far coming from Best Motoring.

Its not a big deal for most people, so dont get all mad when the chasis is not at the same level as some of the other world leading competitions. Its still a great car, especially for its price..

and you dont seem to understand why I mentioend the nurburgring time, I just raised it to say that being a lighter car with the most hp, it should have faster times than the 911 turbo and GT-R, but since it dosnt, it says something about its handling relative to the other cars, because those other cars sure didnt beat the Z06 in the straights.

PoorCollegeKid
12-20-2007, 04:48 PM
Best Motoring/Hot Version hosted by Tsuchyia and that professional Driver that won the GT500 class, I forget hes name. The episode where they tested the C6 vette, Elise and some other cars. They both heavily criticized the C6 chasis talking about how the progression during traction loss when cornering is not linear with that car, which makes it scary to drive fast.

The nervousness in handling near the limit is also documented in several magazines. I said the C6 chasis as a whole, not just the Z06.

throw the Z06 into a corner, and there’s a split-second hesitation between steering input and the chassis obeying your command…a trait that’s been lessened in successive generations of Corvettes, but not entirely eliminated.-road and track

It's uncomfortable, though, with sharp bumps in mid-turn, resulting in steering kickback and a little sideways bobble that saps confidence and throws your rhythm. The same wouldn't happen in a Ferrari F430 or Ford GT, two lofty targets to which the Z06 aspires.
-R&T
Several of us had driven earlier Z06s at other tracks, where we’d been unnerved by at-the-limit high-speed twitchiness. - Car and Driver


Here's the full C&D quote:

Then we went to Buttonwillow, where we were expecting the car’s somewhat isolated control feel to hamper its performance. Several of us had driven earlier Z06s at other tracks, where we’d been unnerved by at-the-limit high-speed twitchiness. To our surprise and delight, this Z06 took to the track with real assurance, braking deep into turns with no sign of instability and rocketing out of them on a tsunami of torque — slightly sideways, if necessary. The faintly numb roadgoing mien turned into much clearer feedback during high-intensity lapping, despite the relatively light, quick steering. And although the shifter has comparatively long throws, it did nothing to impede coordination or obstruct our attempts to run fast laps.

We were so surprised by the Z06’s friendly handling that we contacted Tadge Juechter, the vehicle chief engineer for the Corvette, and he told us that, for 2007, the Z06’s shock-damping rates have been trimmed back a little since Jan Magnussen’s epic seven-minute, 43-second lap of the Nürburgring’s Nordschleife, making the car less jumpy at the limit. Bottom line, says Juechter: The car has gotten better.

I remember reading several other reviews of the '07+ Z06 that have mentioned its more stable handling (including Car and Driver's Lightning Lap (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/13185/2007-chevrolet-corvette-z06.html) comparison) when compared to the original version. I can't wait to see a comparison between the Z06 and the GTR, I think the cars are going to be very evenly matched despite the GTR's porky weight.

playdoh43
12-20-2007, 05:00 PM
thats good to know, i didnt know they already made changes to the z06 after only 1 year. eitherway, just showing that complaint about the nervousness at the limit is not made up out of thin air. it was documented across many publications.

PoorCollegeKid
12-20-2007, 05:06 PM
thats good to know, i didnt know they already made changes to the z06 after only 1 year. eitherway, just showing that complaint about the nervousness at the limit is not made up out of thin air. it was documented across many publications.

Very true. I think that GM heard all of these complaints and adjusted the car quickly to keep people happy. Now, I wonder if the new calibration helped or hurt performance given a driver who spends enough time with the original Z06 to get used to its twitchiness...

dmc27
12-20-2007, 06:46 PM
Aftermarket hood and the only real design flaw is removed. If it hits the predicted numbers does it really matter if those other cars handle a bit better when they're not even close to the 100k price?

Good thing they've got brakes on there that take up a 3rd of the rotor to stop that beast.

YaXMaNGTO
12-27-2007, 02:31 AM
Two more nuggets of information...
short teaser video from the photo shoot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhPFggwiLwk&eurl=http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209858

dyno comparison chart (crank hp)
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=112547&stc=1&d=1198740593

fdtt19
12-27-2007, 09:34 AM
and you dont seem to understand why I mentioend the nurburgring time, I just raised it to say that being a lighter car with the most hp, it should have faster times than the 911 turbo and GT-R, but since it dosnt, it says something about its handling relative to the other cars, because those other cars sure didnt beat the Z06 in the straights.

The z06's time is lower because when Chevy brought the car to the ring, all they wanted to do was beat the current porsches best time, and they did that in only 4 laps. Compare that to the gtr which took hundreds if not thousands of laps to achieve the current 7:38 time and one can realize the z06 is capable of a much quicker time then the 7:42. Chevy should bring an 07 or 08 z06 to the ring with the handling improvements and obliterate the 7:38 time but they'll probably wait and do it with the Zr1.

YaXMaNGTO
12-27-2007, 03:37 PM
Just waiting to see what the aftermarket will do for it.
headers, pullies, a light cam, some tuning... this thing is going to put down some serious numbers. They already have forged pieces in the block, and they chose the LS3 6.2L block because the LS7 427ci has thinner cylinder walls. I bet this engine will handle GOBS of boost, kind of like the 03-04 4.6L Cobra engine or the 2JZ-GTE.

Razz1
12-27-2007, 09:10 PM
I think it's good enough out of the box. No need to modify.

WoodsOfGreenRx8
12-27-2007, 09:52 PM
Im not completely sold on the looks, but it wont matter, cause If I ever pull up next to one, it will be gone! haha.

That car will be a monster, already pushing 600hp.. Like YaXmAnGTO said, a few more things, & you wont be able to buy tires quick enough.

dillsrotary
12-27-2007, 10:35 PM
480 torque at 2000 rpm LOL jesus man

dmc27
12-28-2007, 09:44 AM
Im not completely sold on the looks, but it wont matter, cause If I ever pull up next to one, it will be gone! haha.

That car will be a monster, already pushing 600hp.. Like YaXmAnGTO said, a few more things, & you wont be able to buy tires quick enough.

:lol:

That's what I was thinking. It would be gone before I could finish saying "WTF - that hood is ugly!"