View Full Version : Buy Back Re-sales


CraziFuzzy
10-15-2003, 04:27 PM
I'm curious how much of a mark-down will be on the previously owned buy-backs... I know there aren't going to be very many, in fact, last i talked to him, my dealer wasn't buying back any... I'm just curious if there are some interested people out there who might be able to get a pretty good deal on a virtually new 8...

Ike
10-15-2003, 04:38 PM
Do a search, Mazda is not going to offer the cars to the general public and they will be offered to employees of Mazda. Whcih is a good thing since a sudden availability of used RX-8 would not help resale nor help Mazda sell new ones.

Ike

Racer X-8
10-15-2003, 05:15 PM
Yup. Also, the dealer isn't buying them back, Mazda is. The dealer is just the place where you take it if you have Mazda buy it back. It'll get trucked-out from there.

schweizer
10-15-2003, 05:34 PM
In Minnesota the buy backs are reduced $2000 from MSRP. Saw about 6 on the Mazda lot and about 15 new ones going at MSRP.

RodsterinFL
10-15-2003, 05:49 PM
Interesting info. I went by the dealer here and saw 15 RX8's!!! One of them was black and had a line on it across the nose area just like a clear bra. I got out and felt the crease and there was not any sign of a clear bra. I am not sure if it was a buyback or just dropped off the truck and some type of nose protector was removed but it also had a handwritten sticker in the window - No price. All the others had regular dealer stickers. It was gone 2 days ago when I went by. Four of the RX8's are gone too. He has 1 red, 1 titanium, 2 blue, 2 yellow, 2 green, and 3 silver. From what I have seen arrive at this dealer, I would say that red and blue disappear quickly. Titanium has been few and far between and they too go quickly. Any time I have been in since I bought mine they always have black and silver on the lot - doesn't mean much since it is one dealer but just an FYI on this dealer.

brothervoodoo
10-15-2003, 05:50 PM
That's statement goes against what has been stated thus far.

Racer X-8
10-15-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by schweizer
In Minnesota the buy backs are reduced $2000 from MSRP. Saw about 6 on the Mazda lot and about 15 new ones going at MSRP. This goes against everything I have ever heard. You'll need to proove it for us to believe it. I know that sounds like a challenge, it's just the truth.

edit: whoa! ha ha. you win Rodster :D

8_wannabe
10-16-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by schweizer
In Minnesota the buy backs are reduced $2000 from MSRP. Saw about 6 on the Mazda lot and about 15 new ones going at MSRP.

Which dealership please?

Elara
10-16-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by schweizer
In Minnesota the buy backs are reduced $2000 from MSRP. Saw about 6 on the Mazda lot and about 15 new ones going at MSRP.

This doesn't make any sense, honestly- 6 buybacks at ONE dealer? That would be what, about 4% of all the buybacks at one dealer? Out of all the Mazda dealers in the US? I find that very difficult to believe. However, if you post the dealer and someone can confirm it, I apologize. I was told by Mazda RX-8 orders that the buybacks weren't going to be for sale at the dealers, so until I hear proof otherwise, I don't believe the above.

Ike
10-16-2003, 03:57 PM
I hope the reports about Mazda reselling the buybacks at dealers is not true. If it is I would be seriously pissed if I were an 8 owner. Goodluck guys, I hope Mazda doesn't screw up again. :(

Hayseed
10-16-2003, 06:51 PM
My dealer says they can't keep the buy backs. They get shipped off. They don't seem to know what Mazda NA is going to do with them. (My dealer has only had one come back, and it's a very large dealership.)

mikeb
10-16-2003, 07:26 PM
can anyone get clarification on this issue?

like ibufar

zoom44
10-16-2003, 08:31 PM
elara did a good job of clearing it up i thought, but just in case this was posted some time ago:

Originally posted by zoom44
Yes, a perfectly good car is going to be branded as a lemon-law buy-back vehicle. They will not be re-sold to consumers at the dealer. Mazda employees are getting first dibs on them, and I hear quite a few are excited and waiting for you to turn your car in.

which was posted after contacting MNAO on the matter. it was also checked by dan and bern i believe.

GooRoo
10-16-2003, 10:11 PM
Yeah, what dealer is that. I'm willing to go out and check it out.

klegg
10-16-2003, 10:56 PM
Somhow I can not shake the feeling that this is absolute bull-poop-!!

New poster, just trying to tweak our tails.

Probably a z or wrx owner

Racer X-8
10-16-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by IkeWRX
I hope the reports about Mazda reselling the buybacks at dealers is not true. If it is I would be seriously pissed if I were an 8 owner. Goodluck guys, I hope Mazda doesn't screw up again. :( Not "reports" Ike, "report". I've only heard this from Schweizer here & that's all. Un-confirmed thus far.

I think we should consider that one bogus now. Schweizer hasn't replied to these expressions of doubting his word, so either he doesn't care about us, or he silently stands corrected, or he's remaining mute after his intentional lie.

Schweizer, you can post here please. Schweizer?

Ike
10-16-2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Racer X-8
Not "reports" Ike, "report". I've only heard this from Schweizer here & that's all. Un-confirmed thus far.

I think we should consider that one bogus now. Schweizer hasn't replied to these expressions of doubting his word, so either he doesn't care about us, or he silently stands corrected, or he's remaining mute after his intentional lie.

Schweizer, you can post here please. Schweizer?


Yeah, looks like it was just a made up story. The internet just boggles the mind sometimes...

Ike

IWANTMYRX8
10-17-2003, 01:01 AM
Not trying to start anything....But I'm definately curious about this. I don't want to get my 8 next month and see the depreciation through the roof. So, I decided to check on ebay. Granted, it's not as good as going to individual dealers, but, here's what I found...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436449076&category=6316

(Jim Ellis Dealership in Atlanta,GA....Seems new, with only 10 miles on it. Later in the descripton, it even says you are bidding on "a new car with 0 miles"...but it also shows in the general description as "Title : Used" and then at the bottom shows warranty "As-Is" and "Ext warranty Avail". Has a link for carfax, but I don't have an account. Shows 2 entries in history)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436447587&category=6316

(Another one from Jim Ellis. Same thing, just a different model)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2436991878&category=6316

(just threw this one in. A used 8 w/3800miles on it. It's at an Acura Dealership. Why the hell would ANYONE want to buy an 8 and then trade it in...WTF!!!)
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So, what is up. I know that is only 2 dealers. I might try to call them tommorrow and talk to the sales contact. It may just be a typo on several of the slots. If someone has a carfax account, can yall pull it up and see what the 2 entries are. I'm hoping they are just for manufacturer and then dealer.

mikeb
10-17-2003, 02:45 AM
ebay is so shady IMO

Racer X-8
10-17-2003, 06:33 AM
I got ripped-off big-time over an ebay deal. I feel reeeeeel stupid about my lack of street smarts applied on that one. Two years later...

I dunno about cars over ebay.

I have bought a car using autobytel.com though. It was a very sweet deal. It was priced below trade-in value, so when I got to the dealership, there was nothing to haggle over. They treated me like royalty too.

I wouldn't commit to a car sight-unseen. Wouldn't that be requisit with an ebay deal?

With autobytel.com, you're not committed until you get to the dealership to sign the papers - if you set it up that way. Just tell them "the car is mine & I'll be there tomorrow - & give me $100 off for my travel expenses please." You can buy & have it trucked to you. I wouldn't.

wleonard
10-17-2003, 08:05 AM
What are you guys the freakn Nazi forum police? Haven't quite outgrown the school yard mentality yet?

Prove it!? Reply back!? Where did you go!? Thats BS!?

Sometimes this forum is a great source of information and somethimes it just makes me want to puke.

You guys need to chill out and quit being so GD defensive about your precious cars. They are automobiles people - and in 15-20 years you wont give a flying F about an RX-8.

What does forum mean "open discussion", not post and duck.

Shocka
10-17-2003, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by wleonard
What are you guys the freakn Nazi forum police? Haven't quite outgrown the school yard mentality yet?

Prove it!? Reply back!? Where did you go!? Thats BS!?

Sometimes this forum is a great source of information and somethimes it just makes me want to puke.

You guys need to chill out and quit being so GD defensive about your precious cars. They are automobiles people - and in 15-20 years you wont give a flying F about an RX-8.

What does forum mean "open discussion", not post and duck.

i wouldnt say they are protective about their "precious" cars but protective of the truth

Racer X-8
10-17-2003, 09:23 AM
So we should believe everything in writing, much less written from such a reliable source as a forum post?

Instead of telling Schweizer to shut (TF) up, I'm (we are) asking for more information. Air it out. In our face. If that isn't "open discussion" I guess I don't know what is.

He made a totally unbelievable statement which goes against information from reliable sources (such as Mazda). You say we should just thank him & take it as truthful info.

You, wleonard, are the post dick here. Ya?

wleonard
10-17-2003, 09:53 AM
Ya?
DUH?, you are the post Nazi after all.


OH NOOOO, im melting. You hurt.
Post dick? come on you can do better than that. If your game is insulting and flaming others you need a better vocabulary. Francis.

It'll be okay Racer X. Just breathe and feel the love. Ya?

Pisses you off when people check your shit at the door doesn't it? Ya!

Edit: Sorry forgot my manners, please dont flame me sir: HEIL!!

Racer X-8
10-17-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by wleonard
Ya?
DUH?, you are the post Nazi after all.


OH NOOOO, im melting. You hurt.
Post dick? come on you can do better than that. If your game is insulting and flaming others you need a better vocabulary. Francis. What? Seems to be working just fine. Are we off the original topic of your first post this morning so soon? Now we get to the fun stuff, right?

Dick = detective. Look it up (in a dickionary). In other words, you're going from thread to thread, investigating what others have written, then lay the hammer down on some unsuspecting person (or persons, as is the case in this thread) when you can twist what is being discussed into some distortion of the truth.

I used to have quite a large vocabulary, but I put it away in order to get in order for something very important. So, to get it back out and use any of it on you would totally not be worth it.

wleonard
10-17-2003, 10:26 AM
I agree totally. I went back and read some of your posts and although this tread is an exception, for the most part you are polite and not usually keen to jump on posters.

Perhaps this one, person, topic just got your undies in a wadd. As for the Nazi comments, I do appoligize and do understand that sometimes one can just grow borred and tired and be quite negative in their remarks.

And speaking of borred and tired....adue.

Elara
10-17-2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by wleonard
I agree totally. I went back and read some of your posts and although this tread is an exception, for the most part you are polite and not usually keen to jump on posters.

Perhaps this one, person, topic just got your undies in a wadd. As for the Nazi comments, I do appoligize and do understand that sometimes one can just grow borred and tired and be quite negative in their remarks.

And speaking of borred and tired....adue.

Please don't get so defensive- you were the only person in this thread that really got worked up. Yes, I'm going to question something that is the exact opposite of what I've been hearing, especially since my info came from Mazda. And yes, I'm going to question someone who posts numbers that make no sense. We have enough trolls and people spreading misinformation about this car as it is, and we don't need blatently unresearched or unbacked-up statements made about something like the buyback.

IWANTMYRX8
10-17-2003, 03:20 PM
Lord help me.....Anywayz....lol

Has anyone gotten a chance to check into that carfax thing. I didn't get a chance to call that dealership before I came to work this afternoon. Running late..grrrrr. If no one has an active account, lemme know. I might just pay the one time fee for each and look them up.

Shocka
10-17-2003, 03:45 PM
well here is something funny someone came up to me the other day and said "sucks you bought a lemon" i read on the internet that all RX-8s are being called lemons now!

my reply "yup i also bought a bottle of tequila and salt for my lemon" and drove away

mikeb
10-17-2003, 05:02 PM
damn,
I would have hit that guy real hard

silvercloud
10-17-2003, 05:08 PM
someone came up to me the other day and said "sucks you bought a lemon" i read on the internet that all RX-8s are being called lemons now!


Shocka- what was that loser driving?

Ummmm I love lemonade :D :D :D

8nomo
10-19-2003, 10:17 PM
I'm selling my 8 back and was curious as to what would happen to the vehicle. A sales guy I know told me they are going back to Japan and won't be available to U.S. employees at dealerships and DEFINATELY not available to the public.

Good car, but i like my Z much better

Racer X-8
10-19-2003, 10:34 PM
What a shame...

graphicguy
10-20-2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by 8nomo
I'm selling my 8 back and was curious as to what would happen to the vehicle. A sales guy I know told me they are going back to Japan and won't be available to U.S. employees at dealerships and DEFINATELY not available to the public.

Good car, but i like my Z much better

Sorry for you......