View Full Version : SFR turbo system-Massive price reduction!


SpeedForceRacing
08-24-2007, 02:37 PM
Many people are aware of the 326WHP Speed Force Racing RX-8 turbo system.We have been able to recently lower the price tag to a little over $XXXXX......no prices allowed if not a forum vendor....Swith a tuned Powermod ECU(or $XXXXXfor a tuner system with no EMS or injectors).Originally we released this kit at a whopping $XXXXXbut has the years have passed we found ways to cut costs and transfer the saving to our customers.We have many customers running this set-up since 2004'. Anyways, I want to let people know about the price reduction.We also wanted people to know about the quality of this system compared to other sytems on the market.Everything is built in-house here in America and everything component that we produce is TIG welded with the finest materials available.When we built this system,we took a no compromise approach.Here are a couple pics that support this claim. Take care.

http://www.speedforceracing.com/images/products/mazda/rx8/tubokit/rx8_2_4.jpg

http://www.speedforceracing.com/images/products/mazda/rx8/tubokit/rx8_1_3.jpg

http://www.speedforceracing.com/images/products/mazda/rx8/tubokit/rx8_1_1.jpg

Brettus
08-24-2007, 03:19 PM
Wow - some real good choices coming out for the 8 now .

SFR - Just curious - what prompted your choice of Powermod vs EMU or Int X. ?
only asking because I already have one .

SpeedForceRacing
08-24-2007, 06:21 PM
At the time we developed this system,it was the only thing that actually worked and did what we needed it to do.

Opethdtr
08-24-2007, 06:58 PM
Sweet! Thats a very sweet setup.

Derex'8
08-24-2007, 07:12 PM
Oooooooohh....So pretty...Any chance of being anle to run that filter down in the bumper near the opening like Mazdaspeed/AEM CAI.

mysql101
08-24-2007, 07:34 PM
temp diff from that location vs in front of the intercooler is negligible. at most a few degrees higher when the car is stopped, the same temp when the car is moving.

rotorocks
08-24-2007, 11:07 PM
WOW!
Let the price war begin!!!
Finally we entered a stage of fair market. Who's dropping the price next? Mazsport @ 5K? LOL

therm8
08-25-2007, 07:03 PM
geez there rick...

they were first-ish. supply and demand and all that. Every new product goes through price phases. They start expensive, and as R&D costs are recouped and a supply network is built, the cost comes down. If there is competition in the market, the cost reduction is passed on to the consumer, so as to remain competitive. 'Tis the nature of business.

rAte
08-25-2007, 07:15 PM
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

Regardless of the reasons for a lower price point as long as the quality does not suffer it is all good news. Why should forum members lash out at a vendor that is trying to be more competitive on price? That is just....
Apparently some peolpe here have never looked at prices for FI mods for Corvettes, Vipers, BMWs, EVOs, G35s etc. You gotta pay to play.

I am all for reduced pricing, I may have to re-think the 08 Z51 Vette I have been lusting after.

BTW, does the Powermod cause the ecu to throw a CEL?

-rAte

stickmantijuana
08-25-2007, 07:24 PM
ricky, you either got some growing up to do or just must be an idiot. they aren't here for charity. what sfr said may not have been entirely true, but who cares? that was never the point.

ricky356
08-25-2007, 10:03 PM
you guyz are right what i said may be a little harsh so i took down the post. as for being imature or an idiot, i dont think because we share different views warants those comments. and for someone to write those things about myself would put them in the same catagory they accused me of being in.

i may have put that down in a rant, however i stand by opinion. i know there not here for charity and they can ask whatever they want for their product. but i think the post above said it best "what sfr said may not have been entirely true, but who cares".........i care. and that is the point. i dont want anyone im buying a product from not being honest.

go through and read my posts i dont slander anyone. as a matter of fact i like this kit. if you read through some of my other posts ive stuck up for this product and there manufacturer when alot of other forum member were down playing them. lets just agree to disagree. the reason for lowering the price at the time they did obviously matters more to me than it does to others.

im sorry for offending anyone. i was a little to harsh " il admit to my mistakes". but you cant let companies do things like that. at least i cant.


rick

Rocketman1976
08-26-2007, 12:50 AM
you guyz are right what i said may be a little harsh so i took down the post. as for being imature or an idiot, i dont think because we share different views warants those comments. and for someone to write those things about myself would put them in the same catagory they accused me of being in.

i may have put that down in a rant, however i stand by opinion. i know there not here for charity and they can ask whatever they want for their product. but i think the post above said it best "what sfr said may not have been entirely true, but who cares".........i care. and that is the point. i dont want anyone im buying a product from not being honest.

go through and read my posts i dont slander anyone. as a matter of fact i like this kit. if you read through some of my other posts ive stuck up for this product and there manufacturer when alot of other forum member were down playing them. lets just agree to disagree. the reason for lowering the price at the time they did obviously matters more to me than it does to others.

im sorry for offending anyone. i was a little to harsh " il admit to my mistakes". but you cant let companies do things like that. at least i cant.


rick

Rick, it's kinda funny that you and me are the only people on here that see things like this. I have liked this kit for some time now and mainly because it wasn't the highest priced one out there and now with them being close to the price of the Esmeril I would have to really look at both before I picked one. Being originally a small amount of kits available people could charge what they wanted.

ALXVA8
08-26-2007, 12:55 AM
I don't think I'm seeing the new price on the website. Can you PM what the new prices are? Thanks.

tajabaho1
08-26-2007, 04:38 PM
if this price is including installation at your shop in San diego, and works for a 6 port AT, I'd go down there :)

SlideWayz
08-27-2007, 05:40 PM
Gosh!

"lowered from $XXXXX to $XXXXX"

...whotta bargain!

:yelrotflm

I would actually like to someone to fill in the blanks on the new, improved $XXXXX?

StealthTL
08-27-2007, 05:48 PM
Nobody can fill in the $ until SpeedForce becomes an official site vendor here - you could send a pm.....

S

Rocketman1976
08-27-2007, 06:18 PM
Gosh!

"lowered from $XXXXX to $XXXXX"

...whotta bargain!

:yelrotflm

I would actually like to someone to fill in the blanks on the new, improved $XXXXX?



Lol!:lol2:

How much for install $x or $xx? I'll bring a whole can of alphabet soup and you guys can have all the x's but the rest of the letters are mine!:yumyum:

TeamRX8
08-27-2007, 08:50 PM
Nobody can fill in the $ until SpeedForce becomes an official site vendor here - you could send a pm.....

S

:rolleyes:

http://www.speedforceracing.com/productsmazda_rx8turbokit.php


BTW, nicely built manifolds :)

SpeedForceRacing
08-27-2007, 08:53 PM
Sorry guys I didnt realize that my original post was edited and that people had posted and then removed their posts. All of the information is on our website for whatever it is worth.

SpeedForceRacing
08-27-2007, 08:58 PM
you guyz are right what i said may be a little harsh so i took down the post. as for being imature or an idiot, i dont think because we share different views warants those comments. and for someone to write those things about myself would put them in the same catagory they accused me of being in.

i may have put that down in a rant, however i stand by opinion. i know there not here for charity and they can ask whatever they want for their product. but i think the post above said it best "what sfr said may not have been entirely true, but who cares".........i care. and that is the point. i dont want anyone im buying a product from not being honest.


rick



What did we say that is not entirely true? where did we post or say something that is dishonest? Please someone let us know what is going on?

ricky356
08-27-2007, 09:47 PM
i dont feel like arguing with people anymore so i will not discuss it. its not worth it.

rick

SpeedForceRacing
08-27-2007, 10:12 PM
i dont feel like arguing with people anymore so i will not discuss it. its not worth it.

rick



Well you can pm me.I would like to know.

LabDad
08-27-2007, 10:23 PM
:rolleyes:

http://www.speedforceracing.com/productsmazda_rx8turbokit.php


BTW, nicely built manifolds :)


+1

321SS manifold FTW!

SiLVeRE8
08-27-2007, 10:26 PM
has the new price been updated on your web page yet because i am still seeing the same price...

SpeedForceRacing
08-27-2007, 10:32 PM
has the new price been updated on your web page yet because i am still seeing the same price...


the new prices are on their.They have dropped considerably, lets just say in the
7xx's:)

swoope
08-27-2007, 10:44 PM
tim,

so with the powermod,, no cels correct?

beers :beer:

SiLVeRE8
08-27-2007, 10:44 PM
ooh ok thanks! cause i thought you guys just made another price reduction... sorry for misunderstanding

SpeedForceRacing
08-28-2007, 12:34 PM
tim,

so with the powermod,, no cels correct?

beers :beer:


It depends.On some car no, and on some cars, yes.





Tim

chickenwafer
08-29-2007, 01:22 AM
You guys offer a Turbonetics GT-K upgrade, yes?

SpeedForceRacing
08-29-2007, 12:47 PM
You guys offer a Turbonetics GT-K upgrade, yes?



Yes.

swoope
08-30-2007, 12:37 AM
cat equipped cars?

beers :beer:

It depends.On some car no, and on some cars, yes.





Tim

w0rm
08-30-2007, 12:51 AM
How long would a cat even function with a turbo.. seems like it would melt rather quicklike? or is that way off base?

swoope
08-30-2007, 12:54 AM
How long would a cat even function with a turbo.. seems like it would melt rather quicklike? or is that way off base?

depends on the cat...


beers :beer:

unreal89
08-30-2007, 01:37 AM
correct me if im wrong but turbo=richer=cooler? So if anything it should make less heat.

swoope
08-30-2007, 01:45 AM
correct me if im wrong but turbo=richer=cooler? So if anything it should make less heat.


you are wrong, depends on the tune.


beers :beer:

chickenwafer
08-30-2007, 01:52 AM
correct me if im wrong but turbo=richer=cooler? So if anything it should make less heat.

Turbo doesn't alter fuel at all- only air. If you slapped a turbo on and did no tuning you would actually run lean=hot

unreal89
08-30-2007, 01:59 AM
well, i assume you tune your car for your turbo...

SpeedForceRacing
08-30-2007, 05:50 PM
cat equipped cars?

beers :beer:



Both.We have had the CEL on some cars with cats and some without.

Rocketman1976
08-31-2007, 08:53 AM
What causes the hp and torque to fall so rapidly at around 7600 rpm's?

Is that a turbo size problem? If so do you have a larger turbo option?

I saw someone ask if you had a optional turbo but I dont know the model numbers for them and the differences but I wanted to know if the other turbo would flow better in the high revs.

SpeedForceRacing
08-31-2007, 12:50 PM
What causes the hp and torque to fall so rapidly at around 7600 rpm's?

Is that a turbo size problem? If so do you have a larger turbo option?

I saw someone ask if you had a optional turbo but I dont know the model numbers for them and the differences but I wanted to know if the other turbo would flow better in the high revs.




I dont beleive it is turbo related at all.Every dyno chart I have seen for a turboed RX-8 shows power falling off rapidly at high rpms.I am convinced it has to do with the secondary butterfly system or the ports themselves. However, I am by no means a Renesis guru like some of the other members on the boards.Maybe they can chime in?

We do offer other turbos that can move more air per psi of boost which trnaslates into more power.I dont think it will change the way the power falls off at high rpms though.

nelsonrx8
08-31-2007, 01:57 PM
how much was this turbo kit before

Rocketman1976
08-31-2007, 02:09 PM
$8000+

tajabaho1
08-31-2007, 02:33 PM
I still haven't got answer whether itll work on an AT

kersh4w
08-31-2007, 09:10 PM
im so interested in doing this. 90% probability. i have the money, but i wont do it until my warranty runs out. or is very close. this looks so awesome. time is killlllinnggg me. this will have to be my grad present.

or a 3 rotor install, but thats far more expensive.

SpeedForceRacing
08-31-2007, 10:49 PM
I still haven't got answer whether itll work on an AT


We are not sure.We have not worked on any autos yet and nobody with an auto near us wants a turbo:dunno:

Rocketman1976
09-01-2007, 08:39 AM
Wouldn't it be a diff exhaust manifold for an AT?

Razz1
09-01-2007, 12:15 PM
Nice to hear it less expensive.

SpeedForceRacing
09-01-2007, 04:59 PM
Wouldn't it be a diff exhaust manifold for an AT?



Yes.That is not a problem since we build the manifolds in-house but we still need a car to make sure there are no other differences.We wouldnt want to sell a system that wouldnt fit.

slavearm
09-03-2007, 04:46 AM
You are probably blowing out spark at those numbers. That was my problem, and it has been recently rectified. That is a pretty sweet price for the kit Tim. Simply awesome.

Rocketman1976
09-03-2007, 11:45 AM
Is the $7k price including the
Ball-bearing turbo option and
RC 550cc injectors for tuner kit ?

Or do you have to pay the additional amount to get the ball bearing turbo?

I wasn't sure if those prices for the additional stuff were for if you bought the kit without ems or if you bought the whole kit you had to pay more ontop of the full price.

GTAW
09-03-2007, 12:37 PM
Call 619-328-4012 to Order Now!

RX8 Turbo system(326 WHP*-with tuned EMS,injectors,etc......)-$7099
RX8-Turbo system(tuner kit-no EMS or injectors) - $5299
Ball-bearing turbo option - $449
RC 550cc injectors for tuner kit - $400
Water injection system-$499
3" 304SS Cat deletion pipe - $349
Powermod EMS system for all RX-8's-$1799

Hey Tim, what does the water injection system include?

GAMBEAN
09-03-2007, 02:26 PM
+1 on what GTAW said.

tajabaho1
09-03-2007, 02:36 PM
Hey tim, I'm in Socal, and I drive to Sandiego all the time, but simply put, ur turbo is expensive, I'll go check ya guys out though

Rocketman1976
09-03-2007, 04:09 PM
Hey tim, I'm in Socal, and I drive to Sandiego all the time, but simply put, ur turbo is expensive, I'll go check ya guys out though

Aren't they all expensive?? Except Greddy... At least these guys came down a bit so you don't feel like you need to BYO KY to the cash register:moon:

tajabaho1
09-03-2007, 06:14 PM
I think i have to destroy my bank account for this, thats what I think, so I'm being a bit picky......... :D

Rocketman1976
09-03-2007, 09:34 PM
I think i have to destroy my bank account for this, thats what I think, so I'm being a bit picky......... :D

I'm right there with you man...

When I was younger I could easily spend tons of cash on my car and not think twice about it, now I'm 31 and a little uneasy about dropping 6 and 7 grand on my car knowing that after I do I'm sure I'll have to spend more on a clutch and who knows what else, or maybe even break my motor, god forbid... When I was 24 and had my 88 Turbo Supra I put 2 Japan motors in it in 1 1/2 years and didn't really even care that much. Now I got babies and houses and bills and overtime and taxes and insurance!!! Holy shit wheres my turbo fit into all this??!! I'll get the jaws of life out and cram it in there somewhere, guaranteed...

chickenwafer
09-03-2007, 10:21 PM
I wouldn't advise "destorying" you bank account. What if you blow your motor? Your car will also need it's regular service, so don't forget about that. And don't forget about supporting modifications, like a bigger radiator, new clutch, boost controller, etc.

tajabaho1
09-03-2007, 10:34 PM
exactly why I'm being VERY VERY careful about FI, and even Nitrous, if not I would have my car done by now

FYI I'm 19

SpeedForceRacing
09-04-2007, 08:24 PM
Hey Tim, what does the water injection system include?



Pump.lines,controller,resivoir,etc...........all the stuff you need to run it safely.

GTAW
09-04-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm looking for a system that I can run a mix of water and methanol, is this pump compatible?

Also, what size reservoir comes with this, since I'm leaning towards a trunk mount system and will the lines be long enough?

SpeedForceRacing
09-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Yes the pump is compatiable.You might have to get some extra line to run the resiovir in the trunk.the resivoir holds about 2-3 qouarts.