10AM: recieved call from Mazda saying buyback paperwork was in. (reason: 11MPG in city- 15/16 hwy)

1pm: Make deal with my orig dealer for $1k over invoice for identical car in stock at another dealer. (used offer from a 3rd dealer to match deal.)


8PM out to dinner with girlfriend and discover damage. I am a monthly parker in this garage and all the employess have been careful not to park near me... until today. Of course no one contacted me or admitted damage... and often some of them drive recklessly- screeching tires, etc. They all love the 8 but one of them F**d 'it up by sideswiping it.

3M Material- is on the bumper, but not the rear fender. I haven't yet taken off the 3M from the bumper- (probably I won't) but I can see that there would have been more paint damage if the 3M wasn't there. In this case it probably doesnt mater since they sideswiped it hard enought to make deep dents- but in another case it could have been the difference between damage and no damage.

pic attached- 3M looked alot better before scraped- it looks like crap here. I think most of the black scrapes on bumper would come off with the 3M (some is down to primer or metal)

Should shoot who ever hit you and ran away.... f#$%ing bastard :mad: :mad:

that sucks man.. well good thing it wasn't worse.. looks about $200-$500 worth of damage repair (depending on where you go)...

I'm sorry man
that sucks

emailiists,

I am so sorry to hear this happened to you. Also quite shocked at the milage you are getting in NYC.

I still await the delivery of my 8 and as I often visit NYC on client calls am clearly concerned about the low MPG you're getting.

I wish someone would get a handle on the wide range of reported city MPG people are getting.

3M is on my list and will call the place U used and mention that Richard sent me.

BTW: You still happy with the 3 M job?

Curious to know, why you buying another 8 if you're returning this one due too low MPG?


Claude H.

Is this the car you are turning in or your new car?

The answer a few questions- This is the car I am turning in.

Claude- I think statistically my MPG is in the lowest percent of all 8's, so the chances of me getting a better one are good. I will try and work out a deal with my dealer (since the car has to be driven from another dealer that I can test the MPG on the rider over- and that if I don;'t like the new 8, I can pass on that one ans wait for another to come in. I have to call them today about that.


I still like the 3M material alot. I attached a picture- put it seems no images are loading at this site at all. You can see the 3M did help, but It isnot meant for this type of "accident"

I also just got a call from my garage manager, saying he doesn't possible see how this could have happened- since no ther cars reported damage, and they don't park suvs next to my car. The dent is so high it had to be an SUV. Luckily my girlffriend works for the hospital that own our housing and garage, so they will get involved if the garage or thier insurance co doesnt want to pay. They are in the procerss of reiumbursing me for damage to my Probe that the garage's insurance co denied my claim for.

Good thing orthapedic nurses are hard to come by- they want to keep her happy. - but it does piss me off to get a phone call saying "I don;t see how this could have happened......"

Is there anything else in the garage where you parked beside cars? IE: shopping carts, work related materials?!?

Just trying to give you some ideas.

man that sucks. you should talk to the manager and have him interrogate everyone on duty at the time. probably wont help but worth a shot. good luck with your new 8.

No video cameras in the parking lot?

emailists,

I have lived in NYC, Upper East side, for over 40 years. Parked my cars in building garages for 25+ and as you probably already know, the garage manager, nor their insurance or in house claims people are going to admiit to anything, EVER. Their job is to wear you down by deniying, ignoring your calls or whatever. They hope you will give up in frustration.

It happended to me on more than one occasion over the years and I can proudly claim that I won everytime. It took time but it seems when I threatened to be "Their worst nightmare" and also made it quite clear that I would sit in their main office reception area until my issue was properly attended to, things sudently came together, each time.

Remember you are dealing with an underling who's job it is to wear you down. Things seemed to change for me when they got a sense that I might go over their head and suddenly give their boss an unwanted head ache and THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

It sucks and what happened to you can be nothing more than an unwanted pain in the *ss.

On another note, you seem to be of the opinion that another RX8 might yeild better milage, Interesting? What do you base this on?

You never know, we might cross paths one day, 2 Titaniums go proudly through the canyons of Manhattan.

Time I revisited Ruppert Towers anyway.

Good luck,

Claude H.

Claude H.

That is more than $500 worth of damage. I am thinking $1300+ for that damage.

Originally posted by emailists


I also just got a call from my garage manager, saying he doesn't possible see how this could have happened- since no ther cars reported damage, and they don't park suvs next to my car. The dent is so high it had to be an SUV.

My money is on the garage manager. What does he drive?

And to claude4, emailists is right. Spend lots of time reading up on the low mpg problem and you will see there is some kind of bell curve dictating what mileage these cars get. At 11 mpg that is def at the low end; high end is around 24 mpg. There is no discernable patter nor rhyme/reason as to why one car is low and another is high. It is not attibutable to driving style, climate, type of gas, build date or anything else we can detect. So yes, I agree trading in you will get a higher-yield car.

8_wannabee,

I am an rx-8forum.com addict while I await my 8 and read all I can.

I am quite astonished at the wide range of MPG people are reporting in their experiences.

Certainly driving style has a lot to do with it, as well as climate, humidity and temperature. BUT a range from 11 to 24 MPG. How can that be so?

Is it normal for one car model to have such a range in gas consumption?

Can it be the luck of the draw on which car you get?

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread but emailists is a fellow New Yorker and I hope to gain from his experiences.

Claude H.

My condolences! That happened to my 300Z; $1200 damage. I am going to install the new MazdaSpeed Graviton Deflector Shield. :D

what mazdaspeed deflector?

You're not keeping up very well with those new accessories, are you. Anything that is sensed as approaching the RX-8 - and is determined to be in imminant danger of colision with the RX-8 - is immediately repelled with an induced garvitational force equivilent to 1 ton. Way cool, but adds 73 pounds to your GVW.

Originally posted by Racer X-8
You're not keeping up very well with those new accessories, are you. Anything that is sensed as approaching the RX-8 - and is determined to be in imminant danger of colision with the RX-8 - is immediately repelled with an induced garvitational force equivilent to 1 ton. Way cool, but adds 73 pounds to your GVW.

Yeah, 73 lbs at normal speeds but increases infinitely as you approach the speed of light. This wrecks havoc with your gas mileage.

what's 1 ton of garvitational force like?;)

Originally posted by zoom44
what's 1 ton of garvitational force like?;) Just like 1 ton of gravitational force, except, instead of attracting, it repells...:D

I blew out a tire on Jupiter the other day because of all that excess GVW. Had to hire a crane to have it very slowly extracted.

This sounds just like that divit someone tried to sell me the other day.

Don't know what a divit is?

A divit is 10 lbs of sh*t in a 5 lbs wrapper.

And it only smells a little.

Claude H. :)

Originally posted by claude4
This sounds just like that divit someone tried to sell me the other day.

Don't know what a divit is?

A divit is 10 lbs of sh*t in a 5 lbs wrapper.

And it only smells a little.

musta been circling somewhere around Uranus. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

(sorry, you didn't deserve that ;) )

They say, if you had a telescope so powerful that you could see beyond the end of the universre, & you look down just a teensy little bit, you'd be able to see the rings around Uranus.

:D

Seriously though. Uh... Oh yeah... I wish I had a dime for every "divit" that I had to design!

That's all.

Originally posted by Racer X-8
Just like 1 ton of gravitational force, except, instead of attracting, it repells...:D

I blew out a tire on Jupiter the other day because of all that excess GVW. Had to hire a crane to have it very slowly extracted.

did you take it to a scale while on Jupiter? i wonder what it weighed there.

eh ehmm ehe ehmm... so any word yet from the garage?

Originally posted by zoom44
did you take it to a scale while on Jupiter? i wonder what it weighed there.

eh ehmm ehe ehmm... so any word yet from the garage? Uh, yeah, why surely. 7,700 pounds.

They say the tire sustained heavy damage & had to be replaced. Now they're waiting on a shipment of earth air to inflate the new one.

And we thought that Mazda service here on Earth was bad...

:mad:

Originally posted by Racer X-8
They say the tire sustained heavy damage & had to be replaced. Now they're waiting on a shipment of earth air to inflate the new one.


Wouldn't it just be quicker to inflate with gas from Uranus? (I know, i know, it's getting old and an immature joke. Hey, I'm stuck at work and gotta amuse myself somehow...)

Is it safe to say that this thread has been hijacked?

Good luck to you emailists.

Claude H.

Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Wouldn't it just be quicker to inflate with gas from Uranus? Maybe. I thought about that, but EPA back here on earth would have a field day with me if they ever found out what I had put in my tire. :( They would definitely raise a big stink!

That sucks! In LA, I rarely let valets to park my car. They're polite when you are there, but after you're gone...valets turn into street racers. Anyway, I hope you reported it to the police when you discovered the damage. You can use the police report to file a claim with the parking garauge's insurance company. My guess is that it would cost over 2k to fix it. Good Luck!!

Thanks to all of you for your mostly on -topic replies- and the info about them wearing you down is useful. The police came to take a report but then said it is a private matter. The garage will file a claim to insurance co. monday morning- the question is will they pay off and will they agree with Mazda's amount?


Tonight I again decided to see if any SUV's in my garage had damage that might correspond to mine, and I did see a woman coming for the night shift in the hospital in a white suv (looked like the paint on mine was white)

AFter she left I examined her chrome bumper and found it was dented and other areas scraped that matched mine. I scratched a little paint that was deposited on her chrome plated dent area, and while I cant be %100 sure of the color - what I did see on my finder were sprarkles exactly like the kind on my Titanium!!!!

I did leave plenty of paint there so another party could scratch it off to see.

I'm going to leave the info with my paint sample I took off my thumb and put onto scotch tape with some pictures and measurements of her bumper and mine.

Not sure if this will help my case though- since they may say "OK great detective work- now go sue her insurance company."


The ironic thing- is that she has loads of religious stuff hanging from her rear view mirror, etc. If in fact it was her- "what would Jesus think" of her actions?

I don't know about Jesus, but she's either got a lot of balls, or no sense whatsoever, coming back to the garage with the damaged van...

Originally posted by Racer X-8
I don't know about Jesus, but she's either got a lot of balls, or no sense whatsoever, coming back to the garage with the damaged van...

I vote for the no sense whatsoever.

Give all this info to your insurance company and they will go after her. otherwise, they gotta pay it all themselves. I'm assuming you have a reputable company; there are some that would rather stick it to their own customers than stick up for their customers. Good luck, sherlock. :cool:

edit: Oh, almost forgot... go back with your digicam and get some pix! Evidence, we need evidence.

Here are the photos I took and just gave to the Garage manager. In looking at the paint sample again that I stuck to some clear tape, It looks like my exact color.

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sound like you have done your homework... the insurance have no rights not to pay now..

In Australia we just need other person's detail :D

Originally posted by Racer X-8
I don't know about Jesus, but she's either got a lot of balls, or no sense whatsoever, coming back to the garage with the damaged van...

Driving an SUV - did she even notice in the first place?

Originally posted by druck
Driving an SUV - did she even notice in the first place?

SUV drivers have a word for the RX-8: "Speed bump." lol

you did your job

Its like america's most wanted with those pics

awesome:D

I just got the call- the garage's inusrance is paying off- pronto- they said take it to any shop I want and get it fixed- Mazda also said the dealer would just take it to a shop and have it fixed as well- so I could do that if I wanted. I did tell the adjuster that if he wants to see the car, it will have to be soon since it;s going back to Mazda. He then said well why do you need to out the 3M material back on?- I think I gave them too much information- now I have to explain that I layed out the cost and want to be reuimbursed for my replacment vehicle. I think I learned a vualbel lesson that people in bussines know- only say the very least necessary to anyone......

Right on guy! Good job!

When's your new 8 gonna be in your possesion?

great news
you deserve it

This is way cool and congratulations. But i'm puzzled; why is the garage picking up the tab? Do they think they are somehow liable for the accident. Usually they have those disclaimers "Not responsible for loss or damage" and in this case I really don't see that they did anything wrong. I'm not knocking a good deal, but can you explain?

Great news emailists, So do you have an ETA on your next 8? If you are going to get another, is it going to be the same or are you going to change something?

Claude H.

I forget the exact legal term, but the garage is responsible no matter what disclaimers they have posted up (disclaimers of that kind mean nothing legally) they take your money, and for that they provide a safe place for your vehicle. I can't prove that woman did it- (also in theory someone from the garage could have moved her car) It would be up to the garages insurance co to prove she did and go after her or make me go after her.

As far as getting another 8, I made a deal with the orig dealer to get me one at 1k above invoice (matching what another dealer offered) They said they located a vehicle (I wanted the exact one I have Titanium, GT, black and CHapparelle interior) and even told them to take a $500 deposit off the same credit card as the first 8. But after questioning them a bit about the other delaers car they were going to swap- they told me-Oh we'll get you a vehicle when you need it- there are plenty around- I kind of freaked on them- asking why did agree to take a deposit and not lock in that vehicle? ANyway my Probe GT is not sold yet- so I'm gonna drive that for a while- plus I'm having relationship problems, and may be moving outside the city and commuting each day- which would kill the 8's exterior pretty fast- so I may hold off for a few months till I know what direction my life is headed, and where I'll be living. I will have had the 8 for 2 months by the time it gets returned- I have loved every minute of it and I know I will get one again- who know maybe by that time they will be none with MPG problems.