The Door Sills on the driver side Came off my car :-(

ima got the dealer tom and make him stick it back on again did this happen to anyone else?

WTF!!
Are they not screwed in like other cars? Or do they use some type of adhesive. (if so, maybe just a bad application??)

They're stuck on with some crappy adhesive. One of mine is coming off too.

The aluminum stickon portion of my drivers-side door sill isn't down tight either. I've been contemplating gluing it down with crazy glue or double-sided 3M tape.

i was thinking crazy glue also.. last thing i want is the door sill to fall out one day and not have one. i think it looks really nice!

I wouldn't use crazy glue as is works best for small areas. I would make the dealer replace or fix it.

The pastic part is clipped down but the aluminum insert is glued. Same thing was happening on mine as well.

Your other option is to purchase the all aluminum sill plates. By the way, those stick down with double sided tape.

Mine came up on delivery when they removed the protective plastic. They actually closed the door and bent it. Replaced with a new one, no problem.

If you can get your hands on good quality servo tape (check a hobby store) that stuff stick like crazy and is a far superior adhesive than most glues of other forms of double sided tape.


Ike

mine has started to move around on the drivers side
sucks

A not so commonly used, but extremely effective adhesive is 3M's Clear UltraPro Autobody Sealant. Used mostly on body seams. It bonds well to painted metals, glass and aluminums..

Sticks better then sour milk tastes.

I had to throw in something about the milk metaphor , see it here (http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12149)


here's a link to the product (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GS90WQG57Hgs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_GSS5QJDBZGbl/gvel_6DTWTJQPBBgl/theme_us_aad_3_0/command_AbcPageHandler/output_html)

Mine are coming off as well- for now, I just step on them and they stick back on, but I think we're going to SuperGlue them. We noticed it at the dealers as well, and they just used some kind of white nasty glue- stuff to stick it back on and made a mess of it.

My driver's side door sill kept popping up at the right side. I noticed this the day after delivery. I've had my RX8 for almost a month, and this is the only thing so far that I've noticed isn't right. I kept pushing it down to stick, and now that the cooler weather is here it seems to stick better. I would have thought the opposite.

Has anyone had the dealer fix this correctly (other than adding some kind of glue and making a mess of the appearance)?

welll im glad im not alone with the driver side door sill problem.. maybe Mazda should address this as a real problem compared to the 9 horses.. hey im more worries about loosing the door sills then the 9 horses!!


well my plan is ... next time it pops off im taking it to my room, as soon as i get a minute im running over to the dealer and making em fix it...

mazda wantagh has been great with "services" aka repairing shit that shud be fine.

they have had someone, Service, salesman, finanace associate, receptionist, take a peek at my car to see if they know what the prb is

The dealer should fix it, but for all,

I've found that 3M Automotive Acrylic Plus Attachment Tape, p/n 06384 (a.k.a. double sticky tape) is the best product for attaching mouldings, etc. I got it at NAPA, not cheap, about $7 for 1/2" x 5yd roll, but its the best! It held my RX7's side guard mouldings on for years, until I sold it.

Thanks, Charles. I'm inclined to believe this product is the better way to go than using glue.

FWIW, the door sill guards on most any car (Audi, Porsche, etc.) are usually attached with foam tape, the same stuff used to attach emblems to the car. This provides a (theoretically) permanent bond but yet the attached item can be removed and replaced if needed.

Do not glue the sills on; a cheap body shop once glued the emblems back onto one of my cars rather than spend the $5 to order a new one. When the dealer noticed the emblem was askew, they pulled it off in order to attach a new one under warranty and when the emblem came off it took a 3" diameter spot of the trunk paint with it...

I installed mine myself, and the instructions are quite clear that if you do not clean the area with white gasoline or equivalent, that you will not remove the wax, grease and oil that is present. If the surface is not cleaned properly prior to sticking on the adhesive tape, it will not stick for long. It must be adhered to the bare painted surface cleaned with a solvent that dries residue free. Mine are on as hard as a rock. I suspect that port installs or dealers cut a few corners on the directions. The tape can not be reused, as a minimum they will need to put new two sided tape on it and try again.

Are you guys talking about the standard sills or the accessory aluminum sills?

The aluminum sills are installed with double sided tape -- and yes the instructions clearly state that the sill must be cleaned with white gasoline first.

The standard sills use clips -- I would have to go and look at them but seems to me that there were at least 10 clips.

FWIW - I am not having any issues with my aluminum sills -- but I did clean the area thoroughly prior to install.

Because of this post I checked mine over the weekend. And sure enough both of them were not secure on the edges.

Mine are the ones that came on my GT. I also noticed that the dealer never took off the clear protective plastic from the sill plates.

Guess I will leave the plastic on for now.

Originally posted by RXhusker
The aluminum sills are installed with double sided tape -- and yes the instructions clearly state that the sill must be cleaned with white gasoline first.


If any sills come off, you must remove any remaining double sticky glue, etc. Mazda recommends using rubbing alcohol before installing mud flaps. A clean surface is a must!

Originally posted by Charles Cope
The dealer should fix it, but for all,

I've found that 3M Automotive Acrylic Plus Attachment Tape, p/n 06384 (a.k.a. double sticky tape) is the best product for attaching mouldings, etc. I got it at NAPA, not cheap, about $7 for 1/2" x 5yd roll, but its the best! It held my RX7's side guard mouldings on for years, until I sold it.

How thick is this tape? Does it create a flush seal at the edges (so no dirt will get under) ?

3M 06384 Automotive Acrylic Plus Attachment Tape is 0.045" thick by 0.5" wide. After removing any crud from the original adhesive, I suggest trying to put the attachment tape in about the same place the adhesive was. My sills are OK, so far. Maybe someone who has experienced problems can give better advice on placement!

cc

dumb question....

what are door sills?!?!?!

DON'T FLAME ME TOO HARD... I'M NOT WEARING ANY FIRE RETARDENT SUIT..... SORRY SORRY SORRY..

-John C.

Originally posted by BillK
FWIW, the door sill guards on most any car (Audi, Porsche, etc.) are usually attached with foam tape, the same stuff used to attach emblems to the car. This provides a (theoretically) permanent bond but yet the attached item can be removed and replaced if needed.

This is interesting.
Every other Mazda I have come in contact with (my MX-3 and Miata, the neighbor's 626 and Protege as well as the 3rd-gen RX-7 down the block and my friend's MPV) have the door sills attached with screws to counter-sunk plastic clips.

Originally posted by Rotor_Newbie
dumb question....

what are door sills?!?!?!

DON'T FLAME ME TOO HARD... I'M NOT WEARING ANY FIRE RETARDENT SUIT..... SORRY SORRY SORRY..

-John C.

I guess no one was in the mood to flame

Originally posted by Rotor_Newbie
what are door sills?!?!?!

go here -> http://accessories.mazdausa.com/accessories/images/brochures/2004_RX8_AccessoryBrochure.pdf

and look on page 8

Originally posted by Rotor_Newbie
dumb question....

what are door sills?!?!?!

DON'T FLAME ME TOO HARD... I'M NOT WEARING ANY FIRE RETARDENT SUIT..... SORRY SORRY SORRY..

-John C.

The ledge under the door. The sill runs the length of the door opening. It's kinda like your door sill at home. That bit covers the distance from inside to outside of the house under the door.

The problem mentioned in this thread concerns the center garnish insert on the stock (black plastic) door sill - the silver plate with RX-8 embossed in the middle.

The accessory door sill replaces the entire black plastic door sill with fancier (i.e. more expensive) garnishes.

Lets clarify this -- it is not the actual door sill that is coming off -- it is the small RX-8 emblem in the middle of the door sill -- right :confused:

The actual door sill plate is not attached with tape -- it is attached with 10 to 12 clips that press down into the car body (checked my old door sills). The aluminum door sill plate accessory replaces the standard sill plate and does not use all of the clips -- it uses tape.

Pictures, anyone?

When the RX-8 emblem on the passenger side came loose from the door sill, I noticed that the emblem was too big to fit in the slot in the sill. So, I filed it down until it fit nicely into the sill and put it back using the original piece of double sided tape. After about two weeks it is still in place. I had to file away about an 1/8" from the longest dimension and a 1/32" from the shortest dimension.

Had the problem (and many others!), reported it to the dealer, not sure what they did, but it fixed the problem and have had no issues. Was thinking of the full door sil accessory type ones to stop shoe scuffing, but they charge about $500 for that here in Australia... what a rip off.

My door sill has been fixed. The metal emblem that says RX-8 on the driver's side door sill poped up on the right side. I removed the emblem with a heat gun, and I thought that the dealer would just replace the metal emblem - no so, they replaced the whole black plastic door sill which had the emblem on it already. They just popped the sill off with a little "crow bar" and snapped the new one on.

I have quite a few pics of my door sills lifting and do not have a way to post them. I will send them via e-mail if someone wants to post them for me. PM address to me...

Air Force RX-8:

Here ya go...

http://www.mstersmiata.org/Kev/passengerside3.jpg
http://www.mstersmiata.org/Kev/tapestrippassside.jpg
http://www.mstersmiata.org/Kev/driverside2.jpg
http://www.mstersmiata.org/Kev/driverside.jpg
http://www.mstersmiata.org/Kev/driverside4.jpg

EXTREME CLOSEUP! (Wayne's world, Wayne's world)

(mine are starting to do that too, but not that bad)

Thanks my10ae! Didn't think they would turn out that big, but sure shows the lifting. The pennies were not holding up the plate as it may have looked, they slid under without any rubbing.

when i took delivery my door sill was comming up, the dealer said he would fix it, and didn't..... then i had some other issues and again dealer said they woudl fix it and again did not.... first time was my fault cause i didn't check (i was so excited having a new car), second time i couldn't do anything about it cause i picked up the car after the sevice shopped closed. The door sill then got caught in the door and is now destroyed. I was wondering if anyone knows how much a new one will cost, and how much installation would be.

Thinthi,

It should be noted on your service orders. Don't pay for it, make them replace it for free!

i just got my aluminum doorsills in and what would be an equivalent to white gasoline? i went to kragens and home depot and they dont have it in stock.

i have the same problem with mine.. they also didnt take the clear plastic off them either back when i got it.

nm found out

White gasoline is generally a clean and energetic fuel suitable for use in liquid fuel stoves. Availability is good in North America. In Europe and other parts of the world, availability varies. Usually, you can find white gasoline in Outdoor shops. An alternative to white gasoline is heptane which usually can be found in paint shops, hardware stores and similar.

Here are the replacment aluminum door sills. How do they look?

my passengers started coming off after three weeks and the dealer replaced it...no biggie

Here are the replacment aluminum door sills. How do they look?
They look pretty... but the turnoff for me is the fact that they are attached with double-sided tape.
Why could they not reuse the stock plastic sills' clips is beyond me.
Also, I have a feeling these might be a bit scratch-prone as well.

...I have a feeling these might be a bit scratch-prone as well...

Only if you stumble into your car... :rolleyes: Mine have been on for 6 months so far with no problems encountered. I have had numerous comments from friends on how good they look. So, it seems it was worth it for me.

Hey all guys. I made a fix for this problem, as well as identifying the cause of it in the first place. Check out my DIY:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=79540

Peaceeee

Thanks for the DIY and for figuring out what the basic problem was. I'm gonna check mine to see if they are too long as yours were and if so, I'll do your fix.