View Full Version : ultimate emanage help!
brad_93ls 06-22-2007, 02:47 PM ok i just got my car tuned and in 7.5lbs of boost im seeing 11.7 on my a/f but i wondering what could the peak b with no boost or very little boost? or maybe does anyone have a good map for the ultimate ecu that seems to be doing the same psi with more hp. bc im only seeing 214 whp and i think it should be more..
214 WHP with 7.5 lbs of boost???? Do you have an auto?
Can you send me your log files from EMU with AFR in there?
brad_93ls 06-22-2007, 02:51 PM no its a 6 speed manual no im going back to the dyno shop in about an hour and a half and i can get them then
Cool, if you can get me the EMU log files, I'll see what you "should" be getting. It will be rough... but MM's tune at 6.09 lbs of boost was making 283 Crank HP at 6000 RPM-ish. THis is all off a a software app still in development so it may or may not be 100% accurate.
mysql101 06-22-2007, 02:56 PM if your coils or spark plugs are messed up, you're going to see reduced power too.
btw Kane, MM isn't running the greddy kit
brad_93ls 06-22-2007, 02:56 PM ok yea i was thinking that the 214wheel power was verly low and it pissed me off a lil but i think the've got my car running to rich in the lower boost range
if your coils or spark plugs are messed up, you're going to see reduced power too.
btw Kane, MM isn't running the greddy kit
Good call, he has a diff turbo. But if his plugs were bad... would that not throw the AFR for a loop???? IE make it really rich?
mysql101 06-22-2007, 03:02 PM if you can post a scan of your old dyno, we might be able to tell you why you're making so low power.
brad_93ls 06-22-2007, 03:02 PM just put new plugs on and had a misfire in the coils took it in and get 2 replaced
brad_93ls 06-22-2007, 03:05 PM well the dyno papers i have only show a graph with the greddy hp/tq and his hp/tq
MazdaManiac 06-22-2007, 03:17 PM 1) Is this the Ultimate upgrade kit as GReddy ships it wired or a custom job?
2) Did you use an unlocked version of the GReddy map or a totally new one?
Send a copy of your map and any available logs and documentation.
brad_93ls 06-22-2007, 03:22 PM yea its the upgraded kit and i know the dyno shop made a map off of the greddy by tweeking it so i dont knwo what all was done ill get the map and the emu and repost them in about an hour
MazdaManiac 06-22-2007, 03:32 PM The GReddy map comes locked, so they would have started from an unlocked version they got somewhere else or something completely different.
Seeing the map is critical to helping you out.
tdiddy 06-23-2007, 08:40 AM airflow trick?
tdiddy 06-23-2007, 08:59 AM Sounds to me like part of the problem might be the cat protection. MM's airflow trick might help but it is not going to get him up to 270-280 hp. Just have to wait to see the map.
Interesting...I will have to research the airflow trick thing.
tdiddy 06-23-2007, 10:00 AM http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=120246
brad_93ls 06-23-2007, 06:09 PM ok i have my greddy file but how do i transfer my greddy file with the maps on here so you can open it?
brad_93ls 06-23-2007, 06:15 PM http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=120246
and ive gutted my cat should i still make my airflow map look like that
MazdaManiac 06-23-2007, 07:44 PM Gutted CAT won't matter.
Put the files in a ZIP file (right click => send to => compressed (zipped) folder) and post them up or e-mail them to me (link is on my site - click on my sig).
brad_93ls 06-23-2007, 09:02 PM ok i emailed it to you just to make it easier
MazdaManiac 06-23-2007, 09:28 PM OK. I only got your "dynotune" map. I already have a copy of GReddy's shipped map, but I don't see any logs. If you have logs with injector output and A/F, that would be useful as a minimum.
That said, I hope you didn't pay much for this "dyno tune" because they didn't do much of anything.
In two, small areas of the sub-injector map, they pulled fuel and in two cells they added some.
Thats it.
No timing adjustments and no changes to the main injectors at all.
The GReddy map, as it is shipped, is utter crap. It has no fine tuning anywhere.
When they switched to the new wiring setup, they went with a really strange map and it is really lumpy and goes static above 6500 RPM.
tdiddy 06-23-2007, 09:32 PM the map...
brad_93ls 06-23-2007, 09:57 PM see thats all i got i guess ima have to go back there b/c he did the dyno pulls with his program then he changed the cells on the I/J ADJ. Map2 and he said something about changing something with my timing on my laptop with greddys program
MazdaManiac 06-23-2007, 10:27 PM Well, they didn't change anything in I/J map 2. Only the sub-injector map.
Also, they (maybe accidentally) changed the column value in the I/J 1 map to charge efficiency instead of relative pressure, which means that map wont be doing anything.
They didn't alter your ignition timing at all.
brad_93ls 06-23-2007, 10:44 PM im not sure what they did i just honestly dont think they did very much good at all that is why i am on here tryin to find good answers and a way to make the car better bc i cant afford to have a blown up rx8 in my driveway
MazdaManiac 06-24-2007, 12:02 AM Well, first, if you can't afford to have a blown up RX-8, you shouldn't be playing with FI - especially if you don't have access to someone that can competently tune the thing.
Second, the work you had done was completely F-ed up. That map on your EMU is not doing anything for you.
In fact, I can't say that it is safe to drive since they changed the P1 map axis.
You should reload the delivered GReddy MAP.
JIN13 04-25-2008, 11:53 AM hey some what out of the subject but i'm having a similar problem with my 8. i got the greddy U and it runs a bit to lean under load and won't rev about 7000 rpm's and it just turned off on me wile driving any thoughts? I called greddy they said it was due to my BOV and the test pipe and that i should have the car tuned any help would be great..
staticlag 04-25-2008, 12:30 PM hey some what out of the subject but i'm having a similar problem with my 8. i got the greddy U and it runs a bit to lean under load and won't rev about 7000 rpm's and it just turned off on me wile driving any thoughts? I called greddy they said it was due to my BOV and the test pipe and that i should have the car tuned any help would be great..
What AFRs?
JIN13 04-25-2008, 01:18 PM idle is about 14-15 under loand 13-14 or so can't recall right now i just know it was lean
JIN13 04-25-2008, 04:30 PM does anyone have a greddy ultimate un-locked base map already set up for a test pipe and BOV ???
JIN13 04-25-2008, 06:38 PM the map...
Hey what base map is this???
tdiddy 04-25-2008, 10:42 PM Here is an unlocked copy of the Greddy Turbo basemap. No, it is not optimized for any mods. It is just the unlocked version of the tune that comes with the greddy turbo.
JIN13 04-26-2008, 08:15 AM cool what base map is the one that you posted on page on of this tread it's called dyno tune ?
tdiddy 04-26-2008, 10:42 AM Its a crappy tune that was developed for someones car. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
JIN13 04-26-2008, 12:50 PM O ok then i won't bother then thanks
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