ok guys i have a problem with my warranty i have an AEM cold air intake on the car and the dealer wont warranty the blown motor. they are saying that the intake sucked up enough dirt and sand to sand blast the motor. The intake was installed approx. 18 months ago. Has anyone had any similar issues?

no, and the mazdaspeed intake is just an AEM intake with mazdaspeed on it instead of aem.

where do you live? do you have another mazda dealer in the area?

yea thats a bitch. theres a law that says they have to prove the aftermarket part, hurt the engine. but there explanation is, not reasonable, but passable by law. so you have the burdon to prove the intake did not cause the damage. take it to a shop that deals with rx7s and rx8s. im not sure where you are, but theres a great shop in NJ called JPR IMPORTS. see what caused the problem. research the magnuss moss act(its somthing like that). but after all that, you may just want to get a new motor, or new car.



sorry to hear that man.

The dealer is talking out of their ass, their hope is that you believe them and just pay for the work out of warranty. Push the issue and ask to speak to the manager, if that doesn't work contact the regional rep for Mazda. Untimely its MNAO that determines if the blown motor is covered under warranty. Don't take their bullshit, it may take a few days or weeks but in the end you will prevail. It'd not like you had a FI system and the motor blew. If you show weakness they will win.

ok guys well thanks for the input and i live in new orleans for those who asked but i have already talked to the mazda rep he is the one that voided the warranty and well i am still fighting it but i think i am about to get a lawyer so we will see

Why don't you tell them to fix it - if they can prove (to your satisfaction) your intake was the cause - it's on your bill; if they can't - they swallow it. Don't see how Mazda can argue with that and either way you get your car fixed.

Why get into a pissing match without any proof as to what caused it?

ok guys well thanks for the input and i live in new orleans for those who asked but i have already talked to the mazda rep he is the one that voided the warranty and well i am still fighting it but i think i am about to get a lawyer so we will see

I have no doubt once you get a lawyer they will back down. As a side question was you CAI in good condition? Meaning was the filter free of tears in the fabric. The reason I ask is that if the filter was shot to hell and was letting in lots of debris then they have a valid argument. If not then they are reaching. Good Luck.

Why don't you tell them to fix it - if they can prove (to your satisfaction) your intake was the cause - it's on your bill; if they can't - they swallow it. Don't see how Mazda can argue with that and either way you get your car fixed.

Why get into a pissing match without any proof as to what caused it?

mazda did look at the car, they said dirt and stuff got into the engine, because of intake. thats there diagnoses. what are you going to do, hire someone of (in the eyes of the law) better knowing of the rx8 then mazda to do a second review of the engine, to prove it was not dirt???


mazda said it was dirt from the intake, they can void the warrnty by law. if you feel its not the intake and mazda is full of BS, you have to prove it in court. you cant just say rx8club members say the cai is safe, and no one had this happen to them.... you have to prove it by paying some one to do a inspection of the engine, and to show proof, the intake did not cause the problem. then you need a lawyer to present this in court.



it sucks major ass that mazda did that, but it would be easier to just get a new engine, or new car.

im sorry, im not siding with mazda, but law is law.

best of luck

To be honest no one that has posted to this thread is a lawyer, including myself. Your best bet is just to push the issue with the regional rep as much as possible, see if you can go above him. If that fails then consult with an attorney. I know for a fact than many attorney's will take a lawsuit case under the premise that if you lose you don't owe them anything but if you win they take 30% of the judgment. At this point its time to consult with experts.

Maggneson Moss Act.

Mfgr. has to prove it's your intake.

The car is under engine recalls. Get a lawyer.

Most places a small claims court is for any case $5000 + under. Just take them to small claims court & you don't have to get a lawyer (who will charge you more than $5k). Bring in Magnusson Moss Act & probably the air intake itself if it's in good condition & make it as painful for them as possible.

Just tell them this

Sure, my intake is the caused, I am sorry.
but I will start a class action lawsuit, because Mazdaspeed CAI will cause motor failure as well. and I am not kidding.

Just tell them this

Sure, my intake is the caused, I am sorry.
but I will start a class action lawsuit, because Mazdaspeed CAI will cause motor failure as well. and I am not kidding.

i am taking law courses.

thats called entrapment. you cant get someone to do something for you by threatening to start a class action.

if it was 18 months ago then it probably doesn't have the dry-flow filter that the current AEM/MS intakes have, I think the earlier AEMs came with an oiled filter (?)

for a court case:

you'll need to get the engine and have an outside analysis done

you'll need to research known Renesis failure mode issues and claims, which are fairly substantial for the number of years in service


more than likely the dealer is FOS, many pull this kind of crap all the time

i am taking law courses.

thats called entrapment. you cant get someone to do something for you by threatening to start a class action.

I took psychology classes during my undergrad but that doesn't make me a psychologist. No one here that I know knows the law enough to make statements of what can and can not be done.

guidge,
In all honesty just press the issue with Mazda, it sounds pretty sketchy to me. If that fails then you may need to consult an attorney. I wish you the best of luck.