If they make one and its affordable I will be very very impressed and actually consider buying a new BMW. I had a 1-series as a rental car in Amsterdam last year and the car was awesome even with a tiny engine.

(1st link has pics)
http://1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2701#post2701

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/05/24/spy-shots-bmw-1-series-coupe/

Spy Shots: BMW 1-Series Coupe
Posted May 24th 2007 8:03AM by Chris Shunk
Filed under: Spy Photos, Coupes, BMW

Young fans of the Bavarian Motor Werks have been pining for something more affordable than a 3-series, and the 1-series has been teasing from afar for too long. The folks over at 1Addicts assembled a bunch of picks of a thinly-disguised 1-Series coupe in testing, and we think the newest developments look quite encouraging. The 1-Series in these photos looks to be nearly ready for production, as the only heavy-duty camo resides on the bumpers. Large-rimmed tires fit into the wheel well quite snugly, and BMW's Mighty Mouse is sitting very low to the ground, leading us to believe that this could very well be the 135i, which would seriously scream with BMW's 300 HP, twin-turbo International Engine of the Year.

With a full slate of models, including a coupe, hatch, convertible, and high-powered sport model, the 1-series arrives in the US with the potential to make BMW the number one selling luxury maker in the world's most important market. We're looking forward to taking this little spark plug for a spin when it hits North America in 2008. Seriously, if we even dare imagine how much fun this Mini-sized RWD coupe is to drive, we'd lose sleep.

Thanks for the tip, Alfredo!

BMW UK Official details:
306 horsepower, 295 lb-ft from 1,300 - 5,000 rpm
Zero to 62 mph in 5.3 sec
155 mph top speed
25mpg+

I like the 1 series, wish they brought it over here. I'd go for the hatch myself.

They'll bring it over and then it'll get bigger and more expensive as the years go by. Then we'll be clamoring for the 0 series.

If that little 1 series sees the TT engine from the 335i...OMFG...it will absolutely rip! Maybe that'll be the M1. Can't wait to see how it's priced, how heavy it is and how big it is.

If they price it right, I would look into it.

They'll bring it over and then it'll get bigger and more expensive as the years go by. Then we'll be clamoring for the 0 series.

ha ha, no kidding. my uncle has a '97 540 - i was doing a comparo for him on the new 335 and if he should "trade down" for a 3 series. the interior dimensions of an '07 3 series are literally almost identical to the 5 series of 10 years ago!

If BMW does what is speculated, my next car will be a 135i w/ M Package...

N54 Engine w/ Vishnu's tune...
3200 LBS..
RWD w/ LSD...
///M Suspension...
///M Wheels...

Seriously fun automobile for $35K...

The 135i is on the cover of the new Car and Driver. Hopefully not wishful thinking.

From a Bimmerfest Moderator:

Description

(May 2007) BMW: 1-Series arrives in 2008 (Automotive News)
WOODCLIFF LAKE, N.J. -- BMW's subcompact 1-Series will come to the United States next year, BMW of North America's top executive says. CEO Tom Purves says a two-door coupe will be on sale here in 2008.
He declined to give a timetable. He says BMW has never backed away from bringing the 1 series to the United States despite exchange rate pressure. The weak dollar relative to the euro forces European importers to choose between higher prices and lower margins. "We can deal with it," Purves says.

He would not deny that a convertible also will come to the United States.
For years, BMW would not say when it would launch the 1 series in the United States. A hatchback version went on sale in Europe in 2003. The five-door was freshened this year and shown at the Geneva auto show.
The newest model features technologies such as regenerative braking and an automatic stop-start function that turns the engine off in situations such as red lights.

Pricing isn't known, but the 1 series likely will start below the 3 series.

Background

Development of entry BMW continues; -referred to a 1-Series (in Europe) with launch delayed in the U.S. market. Note that BMW's naming scheme for the U.S. has not been confirmed. Reports indicate that the new entry is being developed in sedan form (expected to be called 1-Series); with coupe and convertible bodystyles also being developed. Note that the coupe and convertible may be called 2-Series in the U.S.

After its divestiture of Rover cars in March of 2000CY, BMW formally confirmed that it would develop its own line of cars, under the BMW badge, "for the upper end of the lower midsize segment". The car is positioned below the existing 3-Series Compact, and is priced lower. This new entry-level car for BMW, dubbed 1-series, will spawn a few body-style variants like its upper sibling 3-Series - it is intended to be a high volume seller in the sub-luxury class, aimed at high-selling Audi A3.
At 4.23m, the 1-Series is 24 centimeters shorter than the 3-Series. However a relatively long wheelbase of 2.66m is required due to the longitudinal engine, rear drive setup. Although the wheelbase 1-Series is 8cm longer than the front-drive, transverse-engined Volkswagen Golf, rear passenger space is limited. Overall width is 1.75m and overall height is 1.42m.

The 1-Series is aimed at a younger demographic seeking an upscale premium car, who are new to the BMW brand. The 1-Series 5D hatchback (E87) debuted at the 2004 Paris Motor Show and went on sale in September 2004CY. Following up the 5D Hatchback is a sporty 3D Hatchback model (E81), due in the 3rd Quarter of 2006CY for the European market.

BMW originally backed away from a firm commitment to launch the 1-Series in the important U.S. market. Due to the strength of the EURO against the U.S. dollar, BMW's already thin margins on the 1-Series were seriously eroded in market projections. As a result, BMW originally chose to take a "wait and see" approach with the U.S. market. Originally, BMW had looked at a version of the European market 5D Hatchback for the U.S. market, but the plan was quickly shot down, as BMW has not had a good history with hatchback models (specifically the old 3-Series Compact hatch).
A Sedan variant was in early development as the launch model for the U.S. market (where sedans are more popular than hatchbacks) - however BMW of North America wants all 1-Series and 1-Series derived vehicles for the U.S. market to be equipped with 6-cylinder powerplants.

The Sedan was slated to join the 1-Series lineup in the 3rd Quarter of 2007CY in the European market, and following in the 4th Quarter for the U.S. Market. The Sedan version is hardly as important as the hatchbacks in Europe, and was not expected to generate large European sales. The Sedan was largely aimed at the U.S. market, where hatchbacks are low in popularity.

As originally conceived, the 1-Series Sedan would actually be longer, and have a slightly longer wheelbase than its hatchback siblings. This slight increase in size was mainly aimed at the U.S. market consumer, who generally expects better legroom and overall interior space.

However in Summer of 2005CY, BMW underwent a major strategy change, canceling plans for the Sedan and a Wagon model (based on the same larger wheelbase of the Sedan) that was also under early development. Numerous factors went into this decision. The major factor was that BMW felt that the larger size of the Sedan and Wagon could impact sales of the larger 3-Series Sedan and Wagon models - this was a concern shared by both BMW's North American Sales arm, as well as headquarters in Germany. In addition, a 1-Series Sedan was not seen as having strong sales potential in the European market, where small hatchbacks are significantly more popular.



2008 MY
BMW will continue to focus on development of a Coupe model (E82) as well as a Convertible (E88) that are both based on the 1-Series platform and mechanicals. In addition, an on-again, off-again strategy to rename the Coupe and Convertible models “2-Series” is now on-again.

Part of the strategy with the naming of the models is to appeal to the deep heritage and popularity of the old BMW 2002 model 2 door models, particularly in the U.S. market. BMW believes that tapping this vein of popularity will help ensure a strong launch for an all-new smaller 2-Series range in the U.S. market.

In addition, BMW was encouraged by the strong launch of the higher-end BMW 6-Series Coupe and Convertible models, and wishes to replicate the success in a smaller, lower priced model.

Styling of both the Coupe and Convertible models were largely previewed by the BMW CS1 Convertible Concept that was first shown at the 2002 Geneva Motor Show. BMW’s “flame surfacing” theme, with concave and convex lines merging to produce a unique surface effect carries over to the 2-Series. In fact sources indicate that the front end of the Production version is little-changed, except for smaller, more stylistically rendered headlamps, and a flatter BMW kidney grille. The rear end is largely unchanged from the concept.

In a shift of strategy, BMW will first launch the Convertible model first in the late Q1 2008CY, for the 2008MY in the U.S. Market, followed by the Coupe a few months later. The Convertible will feature a powered retractable cloth top. A folding hard top was initially investigated, but was quickly abandoned, due to cost and weight issues.

The 2-Series will share powertrains with the European Market 1-Series range. The lineup will include a Valvetronic 24V Inline 6-cylinder powerplant that produces 265hp. Several months after launch, BMW will expand its petrol engine lineup at the top end with the addition of a Twin-Turbocharged 3.0L Direct Injection Inline 6-cylinder petrol powerplant. Although the same engine is also found in the 3-Series 335i model (producing 306PS), the engine in the 1-Series will reportedly be detuned to about 290PS. The engine features BMW's Piezo Petrol Direct Injection technology. BMW's long-rumored ZSG double-clutch transmission (similar to the Volkswagen group's DSG in operation), is likely to be optionally available with this engine as well.

All models will come with Dynamic Stability Control with Dynamic Traction Control, 6 airbags, Brake Force Display function for tail lamps, and run-flat tires with Tire Puncture Warning System.

Similar to the facelifted 1-Series, the new 2-Series makes use of 3 major fuel saving technologies.

The first is Brake Energy Regeneration (iGR), which utilizes an Intelligent Alternator Control (IAC) and an Absorbent Glass Mat battery to recycle energy that was previously lost by the vehicle’s rolling wheels. The IAC reduces drag on the engine by engaging only when required to charge the battery – conventional alternators always draw power from the engine. The battery also charges on situations of engine over-run, such as under-braking or descending a hill. BMW claims a 3% fuel savings with iGR.
The second system is an Automatic Start-Stop function, which is standard on most manual transmission models. The Start-Stop function automatically turns the engine off when the vehicle is stationary and the driver puts the car in neutral. When the clutch is engaged, the engine restarts. The function can also be manually switched off by the driver.

The third system is Electric Power Steering, which utilizes an electric motor to provide power assistance. BMW claims a 90% energy savings vs. a conventional mechanical hydraulic steering system.

The 2-Series suspension setup is shared with the 1-Series, including an aluminum front axle setup with McPherson struts, and a 5-link rear independent suspension. Typical BMW systems, such as Dynamic Stability Control, Dynamic Traction Control, Dynamic Brake Control and Electronic Differential Lock are expected to be standard equipment. The 2-Series will include front, front-side and side curtain airbag systems.
The 2-Series' interior is largely expected to mimic that of the 1-Series, including a push button starter, and a spartan front dash layout, with seating capacity for 4 people.

The iDrive knob-based controller system will be offered, as will be a Navigation system with pop up LCD color screen.

Other equipment will include Sport Seats with width adjustment, Bluetooth capability, front & rear parking assist, and Bi-Xenon headlamps. An optional Keyless entry card system and a voice-activated radio and navigation system will also be available.

Also a bit I found on Naisoc from someone who found it on a BMW website:
With the tag line: "20 Cars Worth Waiting For" and the caption 2008 BMW M1 (Just kidding, it's the 135i)

The article appears too new to be on the Car and Driver website, so here's what they say about the 1-series coming stateside:

What it is: After learning the hard way that Americans don't want a hatchback BMW at any price, BMW is bringing over a coupe version of the diminutive 1-series.
Why it's important: The 1-series coupe will be BMW's entry-level model, bringing six-cylinder refinement and rear-wheel drive to a primarily front-drive segment. Also, the 300-hp 135i will be quick enough to be regarded as an M1, although BMW won't call it that.
Platform: Based on the previous generation 3-series (E46).
Powertrain: The base engine will be the 230-hp version of BMW's 3.0-liter six you'll find in the 328i, but the more sporting version will be the 135i. Packing a 300-hp twin-turbo inline-six, the 135i will weigh 300 fewer pounds than the 335i and will have a better power-to-weight ratio than the last M3. A 135i should be able to spring from 0-to-60 mph in about 4.5 seconds. Six-speed manual and automatic transmissions will be available.
Competition: Audi A3 and TT, Mazdaspeed 3, Mini Cooper S, Subaru WRX, Volkswagen GTI, Volvo C30.
What might go wrong: The styling might be a turn-off, and the 1 could steal sales from the 3-series.
Estimated arrival and cost: Spring 2008; about $25,000 for a 128i, rising to $35,000 for a 135i.

Stay tuned to Car and Driver for pics (or just open up the magazine when you get it).

I was greatly considering a used M3 or new 335i for my first new car out of college. However I decided on the RX8 because I know it's a great driving car with decent power and amazing handling. BMWs are notoriously expensive to drive and insure, and that always frightens me with them. They are very well built and overengineered (turbo and supercharger kits running on stock block M3s are putting out 400-500 hp).

I have a feeling that this car will become very popular seeing that it will come with same engine that's in the 335. The price has also been rumored to start around 35k for the 35 model (Car and Driver). If that is true, I'm going to buy. Don't F it up BMW!!!:banghead:

"BMWs are notoriously expensive to drive and insure"

Boy, you got that right; repairs and scheduled maintenance-including three sets of WR-rated tires on my E36 3er averages about $480/year. Insurance is $75/month. The car's bleeding me dry...:rolleyes:

As for the 135i, an M Sport coupe is probably going to be my next car, and this from someone who was looking for a CPO E46 M3. The I6 twin turbo is a great engine, I drove a 335i droptop from FL to KY and it was a nice car but way too porky for my tastes- the 1er coupe should solve that problem. Here's hoping that BMW sees fit to offer a LSD.

I'm hoping (along with other's I'll test) that the 135 will be priced agressively and not come with too many tech options. Just give me some leather/alcantara like the stock Audi TT, sport suspension, keyless start (I'm spoiled now), Hid's and thats it. I'd even prefer manual seats. Although I would go for DSG (if offered) so the wifey could drive it.

Most BMW's for regular maintence isn't worse than any other car. Oil is oil and tires are tires. Just find a good independent mechanic and do the basic stuff yourself (or more if you have the skills and tools).

I have a feeling that this car will become very popular seeing that it will come with same engine that's in the 335. The price has also been rumored to start around 35k for the 35 model (Car and Driver). If that is true, I'm going to buy. Don't F it up BMW!!!:banghead:
35K? I'm not sure how anyone would construe that as entry-level.....

They are going to have to bring the base model in somewhere north of $25K but below $30K.

>I'm hoping (along with other's I'll test) that the 135 will be priced agressively
>and not come with too many tech options. Just give me some leather/alcantara
>like the stock Audi TT, sport suspension, keyless start (I'm spoiled now), Hid's
>and thats it. I'd even prefer manual seats. Although I would go for DSG (if
>offered) so the wifey could drive it.

I agree, and I also hope that Munich will keep the sunroof optional as well.

I'm hoping (along with other's I'll test) that the 135 will be priced agressively and not come with too many tech options. Just give me some leather/alcantara like the stock Audi TT, sport suspension, keyless start (I'm spoiled now), Hid's and thats it. I'd even prefer manual seats. Although I would go for DSG (if offered) so the wifey could drive it.

Most BMW's for regular maintence isn't worse than any other car. Oil is oil and tires are tires. Just find a good independent mechanic and do the basic stuff yourself (or more if you have the skills and tools).

The auto in the 335 is awesome to the point that DSG is pretty much unnecessary. Just more to break. Manual is still the best choice though.

I'll probably have a manual and I've heard good things about teh new BMW auto but then I've heard really good things about DSG as well. I actually didn't mind BMW's SMG II.

Even if the 128 has the 230hp 6 cyl, it may still be respectably quick and under 35k.

Remeber its still entry level for BMW, they have nver been cheap. If I had to hazard a guess I'd say 128i base for 28k and 135i base for 33k.

>I'll probably have a manual and I've heard good things about teh new BMW auto
>but then I've heard really good things about DSG as well. I actually didn't mind
>BMW's SMG II.

The slushbox IS nice. It even matches revs on downshifts. Still prefer the manual, though.

Great news! I hope they redesign the rear by then though, I find it's kinda dull.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070605.001/bmw/bmw-1-series-coupe-clearest-spy-shots-yet

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/bmw12.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/bmw1.jpg

Coming along, still some masking hiding the details. Would expect some more agressive bodywork and dual pipes for a 135i.

it looks like a pregnant cow.

it also looks like someone took the front end of a bmw 3 series and welded it to a hyundai elantra.

The thing that really bothers me is the way the sides have a drooping line and are sort of concave. It's like looking at the face of someone who has done too much meth, now their skin is hanging off their face and their cheeks are all hollowed out.

The "ones" have been cool for years- wonder why they think there's margin in this now with the US dollar in the toilet?

A car magazine i recently got in the mail had an article on it, and they said thats what they believe it was. I guesse we wont know for sure but, personally i dont like the back end from the pictures ive seen

A few hints of classic 2002 in the rear greenhouse.

New spy shots:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070605.001/bmw/bmw-1-series-coupe-clearest-spy-shots-yet

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/Jimmythemonkey/6070605.jpg

Would prefer the 4-door hatch or even the 2-door hatch... oh well. At least it's RWD and offers MT...

Convertible version spotted!

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=798&page=1

Hideous IMO. They could have used all that money on maybe some limited M7s?

I wish.

uncovered coupe spotted!
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499

Not bad, I need to see it in person. the rear end is not its best feature

looks like a mazda 3 had sex with an audi a4... not bad looking tho for entry-level luxury car.

When compared to the 3 series.. it just looks so blah.. not that the 3 series is all that extravagant or anything, but i mean.. blah..

Any idea what the pricing on the 135 is going to look like? One of the articles here said 22,000 GBP for a 120i cabrio, that's $43k, so I'd assume it'd be much cheaper here, otherwise, everyone would just buy the 3 series.

135i
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1031&stc=1&d=1182952915

335i
http://media.paultan.org/austria335i/bmw_335i_test_1.jpg

Official Specs on the 135i are up!
http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/about/news/0,,1156___,00.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/27/that-was-quick-official-information-on-bmws-1-series-coupe/

306 horsepower, 295 lb-ft from 1,300 - 5,000 rpm
Zero to 62 mph in 5.3 sec
155 mph top speed
25mpg+

It gets some diesels too, but who knows if they will make it here.
The acceleration seems around half a tick faster to 60, with the same top speed. I am sure the RWD layout will aid in handling and it will be really interesting to see where it comes in price wise.

more here:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070628/FREE/70627007/1530/FREE

Several more photos can be found here: El Linko (http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3900#post3900)

convert model http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070627.003/bmw/bmw-1-series-cabrio-spied


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/bmw1-1.jpg

http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070605.001/bmw/bmw-1-series-coupe-clearest-spy-shots-yet

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/alfy27/bmw12.jpg


HMMM.. that car looks familiar...

http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/images/01accent_gsi.jpg

Unfortunately, its looks dont exactly mimick anything thats relative to its class.. I think the posted #'s for the 135i were fairly underated too (0-60 5.3s).. considering it should way much less than the 335i. That said, I'd rather take the porkier 335i...

I like it, can't wait to see the finished product and more importantly, drive it. That car looks to be a blast, same engine as the 335 with less weight=win!

So far it's looking ugly to me. It needs a body panel kit.
It'd probably drive great though.

More official info announced yesterday:

The leak-riddled embargo on BMW new entry-level 1-Series coupe finally lifts today. By now, you've already seen many of the photos, a video or two, and read the official press releases. To recap the basics, here's what's in store for the US model:

On sale Spring 2008
USA gets 2 cars: 128i and 135i
128i: 3.0L I6 w/ 230 hp and 200lb-ft
135i: 3.0L twin-turbo I6 w/ 300 hp and 300 lb-ft
135i mfr.performance stats: 0-62 in 5.3 sec, 155 mph top speed

Video of it in action:

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/30/video-bmw-135i-begs-for-a-flogging/

any new info on the cost here in the US? if its anywhere in the 32-35 range...my family is super interested in buying 1.

1 Series here have been very disappointing sales wise, writers here and the UK are not that wrapped/excited with the car, though I have yet to take one for a spin.

I find it interesting that BMW have all of a sudden released 2 (two) RWD coupes from the 3 and 1 series sedans...

Mazda shows the Kabura as a RWD Concept and yet still no firm news...in a few months maybe?

More official info announced yesterday:

The leak-riddled embargo on BMW new entry-level 1-Series coupe finally lifts today. By now, you've already seen many of the photos, a video or two, and read the official press releases. To recap the basics, here's what's in store for the US model:

On sale Spring 2008
USA gets 2 cars: 128i and 135i
128i: 3.0L I6 w/ 230 hp and 200lb-ft
135i: 3.0L twin-turbo I6 w/ 300 hp and 300 lb-ft
135i mfr.performance stats: 0-62 in 5.3 sec, 155 mph top speed

That 60 time seems way too slow. Considering the 335i same engine bigger car gets to 60 in 5.1 and Car and Driver said that the 135i will have a petter power to weight ratio than the E46M3 which hit 60 in 4.7. I hope that BMW doesnt dial this thing back so that it doesnt beat their more expensive cars.

Where's the hatchback? I already have a car with a useless trunk.. Why should want another?

35K? I'm not sure how anyone would construe that as entry-level.....

They are going to have to bring the base model in somewhere north of $25K but below $30K.

Entry level for a BMW. My bet is on 29k to start the price under 30k, but there is no way you will be able to get one from a dealer for less than 34k.

THE NEW BMW 1 SERIES COUPE:
BMW's 128i and 135i Coupes Come to America in 2008

Woodcliff Lake, NJ - June 30, 2007 6PM EDT... BMW will introduce a modern and authentic performance coupe that draws inspiration from its iconic 2002 models of some 40 years ago. The next BMW legend, the 1 Series Coupe, represents the core BMW philosophies of pure performance and premium design. By combing sporty rear-wheel-drive dynamics, agile handling, powerful engines and seating for four, the 1 Series Coupe will reinvent the niche that the legendary BMW 2002 created.

On sale in the spring of 2008, the 1 Series Coupe will be available in two versions; the 128i and the 135i. Powered by a 3.0-liter, 230 horsepower inline 6-cylinder engine that generates 200 lb-ft of torque, the 128i Coupe will feature Valvetronic valvetrain management and aluminum/magnesium construction - core elements of BMW's Efficient Dynamics. The powerful 135i Coupe features BMW's twin-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline six-cylinder engine that produces 300 horsepower and an incredible 300 lb-ft of torque from as low as 1,400 rpm. With its direct piezo gasoline injectors, twin low-mass turbochargers and air-to-air intercooling, optimum performance and economy is achieved with no loss in engine reponse. For the 135i Coupe, acceleration from 0-62 mph is accomplished in 5.3 seconds and top speed is electronically limited to 155 mph. Both engines feature on-demand engine coolant pumps that improve fuel economy and reduce parasitic losses for increased output.

M-inspired performance for the 135i Coupe
The 135i Coupe offers more performance and a striking look thanks to M-inspired components. Features include an Aero kit for additional downforce at speed, better brake cooling and enhanced aesthetics while the Sports Suspension offers higher traction and reduced body roll with 18-inch wheels and performance tires. The Sports Suspension also includes with a high-performance brake system incorporation six-piston fixed calipers on the front and two-piston fixed calipers at the rear.

High-tech suspension with newly-developed differential
In typical BMW style, the new BMW 1 Series Coupe transmits the power of the engine to the rear wheels. This design concept and configuration - engine at the front, drive wheels at the rear - guarantees optimum traction, good weight distribution front-to-rear, excellent directional stability, and predictable handling.

The new 1 Series Coupe has a sophisticated suspension system with an aluminum double-pivot front suspension and a five-link fully independent rear suspension in lightweight steel. BMW's Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) also includes a Dynamic Traction Control (DTC) function that provides electronic intervention to prevent loss of vehicle control, but at a higher threshold before activation. This allows the driver to experience more spirited driving on dry roads and offers more flexibility when driving in more challenging conditions such as in the snow. If the driver desires, both DSC and DTC can be disabled entirely. Active Steering, a variable ratio steering system exclusive to BMW, is available as an option. The DSC system on the 135i Coupe is designed specifically for performance-oriented driving. For instance, the accelerator pedal has a quicker response rate and electronic rear brake management is used to simulate a differential lock for stronger acceleration in turns.

The rear differential on the 1 Series comes from a new generation of final drives optimized for running smoothness. Featuring double-helical ball bearings for the first time, the differential runs at an even lower operating temperature reached more quickly than before thanks to the reduction of fluid required in the differential.

The front suspension on the BMW1 Series is also built to a standard quite unique to its competitive group. The double-pivot spring and strut front suspension with its anti-roll bar, is made largely of aluminium and offers and optimum combination of stiffness and low weight. The very stable track control arms and thrust rods, as well as exact wheel guidance, make an important contribution to the car's driving dynamics.

bits and pieces i took off of a press release...

i wondering if having tons of 128s poping up all over the place would cheapen the prestige of the bmw brand. I could care less personally but it could have over reaching implications affecting bmw's market and revenue in positive and negative ways. Then again the B class benz didnt seem to do too well in the states.

That's because BMWs are performance machines and Benzs are luxury cars. The major differences between a entry level Beamer and a high end one is enterior and features. Since Benzs are known to be luxury cars, a entry level would not be perceived the same way. Take away the high end luxury of a Benz and you now have an unreliable POS. Take away the high end luxury of a BMW and you still have a kick ass performance car.

Ewf, that rear end looks seriously low budge'. Those frumpy, excessively curvy rear lights match nothing about the car and frankly look like they belong on a Hyundai.

That's because BMWs are performance machines and Benzs are luxury cars. The major differences between a entry level Beamer and a high end one is enterior and features. Since Benzs are known to be luxury cars, a entry level would not be perceived the same way. Take away the high end luxury of a Benz and you now have an unreliable POS. Take away the high end luxury of a BMW and you still have a kick ass performance car.

from the perspective of an auto enthusiast yes, but im pretty sure 90% of the general public bmw buyers buys it for the blue-white propeller rather than the performance.

i wondering if having tons of 128s poping up all over the place would cheapen the prestige of the bmw brand. I could care less personally but it could have over reaching implications affecting bmw's market and revenue in positive and negative ways. Then again the B class benz didnt seem to do too well in the states.

the 318ti in the early 90s certainly didnt cheapen the prestige and was fairly successful and didnt cheapen the buying experience for a 5 7 or 8 series. You have to realize in the european market small cheaper bmws and other luxury german cars (bmw 316s 318s 120s 125s audi a2s a4s with 1.6s ) are as ubiquitous as accords and camrys are here. In fact accords and camrys are rarer in western europe.

i dont think 318 still a 3 series is very comparable to a 1 series, nor does looking at the european market give a good indication of the US market where we like big sofas in our cars. who knows whats going to happen though, time will tell.

i dont think 318 still a 3 series is very comparable to a 1 series, nor does looking at the european market give a good indication of the US market where we like big sofas in our cars. who knows whats going to happen though, time will tell.

the 318 was relatively small:
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/jpg/318ti.jpg

Cerainly impressive, I still think I like the 8 better

I like what i am seeing but one thing i am not seeing is an LSD. instead you get some electronic nanny that taps the brakes for you.

Autoblog says the car launches in spring 08.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/18/spring-2008-arrival-date-for-bmw-1-series/

does anyone know how much it weighs?

For tons of info check 1addicts.com. I think its something like 1520kg but that includes 75kg for driver and luggage or something so the best guess is around 3,200lbs

I'm probably going to get a 135i for my next car but it won't be for a few years. I like the idea of a car that gets 30 mpg on the highway but has over 300 hp.

If not the 135i then I might look for another Mini Cooper S.

I think this is a very cool car. When it comes I'll go take a look for sure.

Try these:

http://edbmw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/more3.jpg

http://edbmw.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/more2.jpg

More at http://edbmw.com/blog/2007/06/28/bmw-135i-official-press-photos/

If BMW really brings this car to market at a competitive price point I believe we're seeing the making of the next automotive cult classic sold in America...like the 1st generation Miata, '02 Subaru WRX, and the '70 Nissan 240Z.

If you guys want to check out the brochure, here it is:
1 series brochure (http://www.bmw128i.com/PDF-Brochures/BMW-1-series-brochure.pdf)

Alpine white with aluminum trim and coral red leather interior for me!

Yeah, I like Ike's taste!!...;)

!!!!!!!!!Noice!!!!!!!

2 Door (White with Red Leather) is the way to go, IMO one of the best looking BM's in their 2007 line-up.

If BMW really brings this car to market at a competitive price point I believe we're seeing the making of the next automotive cult classic sold in America...It will be priced in low- to mid-30s, a few K above RX-8, a few K below 3-series.

If the car sells well, we will have tens of thousands of disillusioned BMW buyers by 2011 - around the time they have the first out-of-warranty encounter with BMW service 'engineers' working on their cars.

about the 318ti... i once saw an engine swap from a 545i. they took the v8 in it, and mated it with an m5 transmission i believe. 345ti anyone? heck yes.

weight for the 135i is 3384lbs, about 400 lbs heavier than an RX-8 in sport trim.

Thats the EU unladen weight which includes 90% tank filling, 68kg for driver, and 7kg for luggage. Since your Rx-8 weight isn't an EU weight, that gap will narrow to under 200 lbs. All that with an extra 100 or so whp and wtq.

Thats the EU unladen weight which includes 90% tank filling, 68kg for driver, and 7kg for luggage. Since your Rx-8 weight isn't an EU weight, that gap will narrow to under 200 lbs. All that with an extra 100 or so whp and wtq.


The base 128i is going to be about 3100 and the 135i a little over 3200lbs. Still a bit porky for such a small car, but not so much that it'll ruin the fun. I think a 2007 sport is listed at 3045 now.

I heard about the car a fe months ago and fell in love. I want one!

It will be priced in low- to mid-30s, a few K above RX-8, a few K below 3-series.

If the car sells well, we will have tens of thousands of disillusioned BMW buyers by 2011 - around the time they have the first out-of-warranty encounter with BMW service 'engineers' working on their cars.

Thats why you don't take an out of warranty BMW to a dealer, or an out of warranty any brand to a dealer. You take it to an indie or fix it yourself.

Thats the EU unladen weight which includes 90% tank filling, 68kg for driver, and 7kg for luggage. Since your Rx-8 weight isn't an EU weight, that gap will narrow to under 200 lbs. All that with an extra 100 or so whp and wtq.

cool, thanks for clearing that up.

Looks like someone found a full list of standard features and options for MY08:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1685

Im really liking Montego Blue with Terracotta and Alum.

Just drove the 135i.... in the GT5 demo. :)

FWIW, it's a very fun and nimble handling car in the game, able to hold it's own against stock Evo Xs. The sound of the dual turbos is pretty sweet.

BTW, the physics modeling on the GT5 is much improved, especially tire traction dynamics and weight transfers. The cockpit view is very nice too.

Just drove the 135i.... in the GT5 demo. :)

FWIW, it's a very fun and nimble handling car in the game, able to hold it's own against stock Evo Xs. The sound of the dual turbos is pretty sweet.

BTW, the physics modeling on the GT5 is much improved, especially tire traction dynamics and weight transfers. The cockpit view is very nice too.
lol me to . cockpit looks really i agree with you? btw they are suppose to unlock the IS, and other cars once Tokyo motor show ends or begins, i cant remember. btw the car you cant see is the STI new model.

Looks like the 3394 is actually the curb weight not the UK unladen weight. I think BMW just uses the term unladen to mean that it is not loaded. If you check the unladen weight numbers for the 335i they match the curb weight of the vehicle.

i hurry up this photo taking of the 1 series in GT5
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ozarkajuice/gt5-1.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ozarkajuice/gt4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ozarkajuice/gt3.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ozarkajuice/gt2.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff232/ozarkajuice/gt1.jpg

haha, oh wow they even show the nav and everything, thats pretty cool

Interesting it will have a staggered set up.

weight for the 135i is 3384lbs, about 400 lbs heavier than an RX-8 in sport trim.

Well, the latest information from Car and Driver says that it is even worse than that.

"We drove only the 135i coupe, which is expected to start in the high $30,000s and is powered by the excellent twin-turbo, direct-injection 3.0-liter inline-six which you already know from the 335i coupe and sedan. This powerhouse also won the International Engine of the Year Award—twice. Fitted into this 3450-pound 135i—yes, the 1-series is only about 100 pounds lighter than an equivalent 3-series—the 300-hp engine sounds fabulous and spins up quickly to its 7000-rpm redline." [emphasis added by me]

Full story can be found here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/14238/first-drive-2009-bmw-135i.html?al=124

3450 pounds! Holy smokes! If this really is true, what is the point of this car? The more information I hear, the more it sounds like the 1-series is only going to be slightly less heavy and slightly less money than the 3-series. I am really bummed by how heavy this thing turned out to be.

Cheers

Well, the latest information from Car and Driver says that it is even worse than that.

"We drove only the 135i coupe, which is expected to start in the high $30,000s and is powered by the excellent twin-turbo, direct-injection 3.0-liter inline-six which you already know from the 335i coupe and sedan. This powerhouse also won the International Engine of the Year Award—twice. Fitted into this 3450-pound 135i—yes, the 1-series is only about 100 pounds lighter than an equivalent 3-series—the 300-hp engine sounds fabulous and spins up quickly to its 7000-rpm redline." [emphasis added by me]

Full story can be found here:
http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/14238/first-drive-2009-bmw-135i.html?al=124

3450 pounds! Holy smokes! If this really is true, what is the point of this car? The more information I hear, the more it sounds like the 1-series is only going to be slightly less heavy and slightly less money than the 3-series. I am really bummed by how heavy this thing turned out to be.

Cheers

I'm upset by this as well. I was hoping it would come in MUCH closer to 3000lbs...

C&D weighed the 335i coupe and it came in at 3366 and several other owners have weighed in around the 3200-3300 lb range... so the 135i will be right around 3000 - 3200 lbs range

it all depends on what options are in the car, you cant generalize the rx8 to a certain weight because the sport version is nearly 80-90 lbs less. I think we can safely say that it will be between 2000-6000 lbs :P

C&D weighed the 335i coupe and it came in at 3366 and several other owners have weighed in around the 3200-3300 lb range... so the 135i will be right around 3000 - 3200 lbs range

Wrong. At best it will be 3380.

Wrong. At best it will be 3380.

so are you saying car and driver lied when they put their 335i coupe from this years Lightning Lap comparo on the scales and it weighed in at 3366, or you think the 135i will be heavier then the 335i? :rolleyes:


BMW unladen weights contain 150lb driver, 15 pounds of luggage, and a 90% full tank...

I like this car a lot, I was considering a 335i, but this might just do the trick

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/02/bmw-135i-reviews-hit-the-net-swooning-ensues/

some reviews are up, for all your crazy weight freaks
its only about 130lb less than the 335, at 3440lb

3440? HOW? Are the doors made of lead?

BMW themselves say the 335i coupe's unladen weight is 3571; everywhere else I look the weight is at least 3550. C&D even stated 3557. Not sure what C&D was smoking with the article you read, but it must have been better than what everyone else is smoking.

Also, the new Tii concept appears to be the 3200 pound car we were all hoping the 135i would have been. The 135i is 3373 right from BMW's mouth.

It will be a tough decision when Mazda drops the new 2800 pound rotary coupe...

BMW announced the price today accidentally.
The car is not only too heavy, but too expensive.
Base price of the 135i is 35,675. Fully loaded, just over 52k.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/15/bmw-strike-officially-strike-accidentally-prices-135i-at-35/

I was hoping they'd start at around 32k and I could load it up to about 40k.. but man.. 35k doesn't give much room. It really annoys me that BMW almost always gets MSRP for their cars too. I paid invoice for my 8... unless I know the dealer, that isn't gonna happen on a bimmer. Nice profit for them, I guess. Here in TX, people are paying about 2-3% more than MSRP for the 335i..

bah.

I don't get why you and many people on Bimmerforums are surprised by the pricing. It's about what most speculated the pricing would be...

I don't get why you and many people on Bimmerforums are surprised by the pricing. It's about what most speculated the pricing would be...

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed.

I had hoped that the baseline 135i would be the same as the baseline 3 series. It's close, but not quite there. It makes purchasing a 1 series a lot harder to justify.

I'm not surprised. I'm just disappointed.

I had hoped that the baseline 135i would be the same as the baseline 3 series. It's close, but not quite there. It makes purchasing a 1 series a lot harder to justify.

I know what you mean, but I expected this. Optioned out the way I'd want it the car will be right at 40k. At that point my fiance will be rightfully pissed at me for pirchasing one when we're paying for a wedding and home improvement stuff. For some reason an Evo or STI in the low to mid 30s doesn't phase her though...

Between the weight, the lack of LSD, the sunroof, and the fact that there are going to be a bunch of dady's girls driving them around I had decided against the car a few weeks ago. The price of one optioned out the way I want it just confirms that I'm better off with the new STI, Evo X, or just keeping my current Evo.

It's kinda tempting to just pay off my Evo and mod the hell out of it and get a used M3, 335, or G37 in a couple years.

I know what you mean, but I expected this. Optioned out the way I'd want it the car will be right at 40k. At that point my fiance will be rightfully pissed at me for pirchasing one when we're paying for a wedding and home improvement stuff. For some reason an Evo or STI in the low to mid 30s doesn't phase her though...

Between the weight, the lack of LSD, the sunroof, and the fact that there are going to be a bunch of dady's girls driving them around I had decided against the car a few weeks ago. The price of one optioned out the way I want it just confirms that I'm better off with the new STI, Evo X, or just keeping my current Evo.

It's kinda tempting to just pay off my Evo and mod the hell out of it and get a used M3, 335, or G37 in a couple years.

The lack of the LSD doesn't bother me too much because it does have an electronically controlled diff, and if you don't like that, you can probably drop the late M3 diff in there for not too much money.

My plan was to buy a new car next year around spring and this was the top candidate. I wanted to stay under 40k too so I could keep my payment under $500 a month. It's just not realistic now. I'd want it optioned up to about 40k as well. For that money, I could buy a decently equipped 335i.

Just do European Delivery, the Euro Delivery base price is a lot less. Tack on some profit for the dealer and there you go.

This is the Euro Delivery pricing for the 335i:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/pdf/pricing/2007/2007_E92_Pricing.pdf

Just do European Delivery, the Euro Delivery base price is a lot less. Tack on some profit for the dealer and there you go.

This is the Euro Delivery pricing for the 335i:

http://www.bimmerfest.com/pdf/pricing/2007/2007_E92_Pricing.pdf


By the time you're done paying for the trip you're not saving any money. But you do get a free vacation out of it... Also, ED probably won't be available for the 135 for a while.

The lack of the LSD doesn't bother me too much because it does have an electronically controlled diff, and if you don't like that, you can probably drop the late M3 diff in there for not too much money.

My plan was to buy a new car next year around spring and this was the top candidate. I wanted to stay under 40k too so I could keep my payment under $500 a month. It's just not realistic now. I'd want it optioned up to about 40k as well. For that money, I could buy a decently equipped 335i.

335i starts at 40k, most of the decently equipted ones, (dosnt even have nav) are going around 46k after bargain

Well, enough bickering over the US pricing...

Here it is:
http://www.bmw135i.net/pricing/2008-135i-Coupe-Prices.htm

By the time you're done paying for the trip you're not saving any money. But you do get a free vacation out of it... Also, ED probably won't be available for the 135 for a while.

Its true that if you do ED you might as well make it a vacation. Having your own car to drive around is very nice, no need to deal with trains or finding cheap airfare.

ED pickup for 135i will begin 2 weeks after US launch date.

Its true that if you do ED you might as well make it a vacation. Having your own car to drive around is very nice, no need to deal with trains or finding cheap airfare.

ED pickup for 135i will begin 2 weeks after US launch date.

There seem to be conflicting reports. The dealership I asked said it wouldn't be available upon release and they implied it would be some months before it was available and I know of a few others that had to same response from other dealers. Then again there seem to be a bunch of people claiming it'll be available right away...

One dealership actually called ED corporate office and confirmed with them, thats where my info is coming from.

Saw the pricing today. It's not that much cheaper than a 3-series. I take the 3-series.

How about this, before the release of the car, AC Schnitzer already has it running at 360 horsepower and a sub 5 second 0-60 time.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/29/bmw-135i-gets-schnitzered-360-hp-acs1/

How about this, before the release of the car, AC Schnitzer already has it running at 360 horsepower and a sub 5 second 0-60 time.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/29/bmw-135i-gets-schnitzered-360-hp-acs1/

Car and driver got a stock 335i to 60 in 4.8 seconds. Vishnu has a system for the 335i that has generated some very impresive #'s. Since the 335 and 135 share the same powertrain then the system will alos work on the 135.

http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_335i.htm

Sadly, the 135i has a 'peg leg' versus a limited-slip diff. Theoretically, one could swap out the limited-slip from the 335i, but it would be expensive.

The other downside of the 135i is that is is too heavy (<200# lighter than a 335i).

335 doesn't come w/ a LSD either.. only the M's do.

LSD will be available later as an add on, BMW confirmed it for the 1 series.

As exciting as this car sounds, i think im going to spring for the 335 coupe. More room and more standard features does it for me.