It appears that now Mazda is catching up with demand.
As posted today on the Yahoo! RX-8 forum:

"Am looking at getting a red w/ grand touring... Dealership is
willing to take $2500 off the MSRP - it that a good deal? They have about 45 of them - in all the colors.

thanks in advance. Any options I should make sure and get and/or stay away from?"


I am betting on $4G below MSRP by Christmas..

Catching up with demand? or is Mazda desperate to attract buyers?

$2500 off MSRP so soon signals something and it doesnt look good.

2 weeks after delivery there were no less than 5 at every Mazda dealer I saw (3 of them). In addition when I said I wouldn't pay MSRP if I wanted the car, they didn't seem firm on it and the sales guy contacted me with a quote below MSRP the following week, and they still had 5 of 6 of their original RX-8s plus some.


Ike

Actually I ltook a trip over to that thread.

1) I do not believe they had that many on the lot

2) I do not believe That it is a real post

3) I have three mazda dealerships in a 20 mile radius of my house. They have 2-5 on lot at any givin time, they move them every 2 weeks (so they are selling 2-5 evey 2 weeks)

4) canzoomer, give it a rest!! This is beneath you.

Originally posted by klegg
Actually I ltook a trip over to that thread.

1) I do not believe they had that many on the lot

2) I do not believe That it is a real post

3) I have three mazda dealerships in a 20 mile radius of my house. They have 2-5 on lot at any givin time, they move them every 2 weeks (so they are selling 2-5 evey 2 weeks)

4) canzoomer, give it a rest!! This is beneath you.

Ah, the desperate sound of denial..

I can just picture that vein on your forehead pulsing..

DUM-dum...DUM-dum...DUM-dum...

Mazduh..MazduH..MazdUH..MazDUH!!

Sorry, I couldnt resist..

Originally posted by IkeWRX
2 weeks after delivery there were no less than 5 at every Mazda dealer I saw (3 of them). In addition when I said I wouldn't pay MSRP if I wanted the car, they didn't seem firm on it and the sales guy contacted me with a quote below MSRP the following week, and they still had 5 of 6 of their original RX-8s plus some.


Ike

Maple shade mazda in NJ claims they have 93 in stock to choose from. I sense some major discounting.

I've also only seen 1 RX-8 in the princeton area.

Hey canzoom what dealer is selling 2500 below msrp. I'll call them and prove you are right. I might buy one from them too.

I just posted to the YahooRX-8 group asking that person this very question!

I will post what replies I get..

Originally posted by canzoomer
It appears that now Mazda is catching up with demand.
As posted today on the Yahoo! RX-8 forum:

"Am looking at getting a red w/ grand touring... Dealership is
willing to take $2500 off the MSRP - it that a good deal? They have about 45 of them - in all the colors.

thanks in advance. Any options I should make sure and get and/or stay away from?"


I am betting on $4G below MSRP by Christmas..

Keep dreaming. Mazda has not even advertised on TV yet.

Just saw 3 commercials tonight.


Ike

Originally posted by IkeWRX
Just saw 3 commercials tonight.


Ike


Must be new, I have not seen any yet. I doubt there will be incentives unless the advertising does not sell these things. Hopefully the dealers stop the add on "premium" to the sticker.

Originally posted by Zio


Maple shade mazda in NJ claims they have 93 in stock to choose from. I sense some major discounting.

I've also only seen 1 RX-8 in the princeton area.


Actually were I got mine, and that is not what they are telling me.
(I know the place pretty well, a friend works there) lot coulfd not handle 93 cars, period!

Originally posted by Zio


Maple shade mazda in NJ claims they have 93 in stock to choose from. I sense some major discounting.

I've also only seen 1 RX-8 in the princeton area.

actually the web site says "rx-8 now in stock and on the next line it says 93 to choose from". the catch is not all 93 are in stock. they've been saying that for over a month now. i ordered my 8 from them and i asked them about that too a month ago and they said it was up to the marketing department to word it that way.

Originally posted by klegg



Actually were I got mine, and that is not what they are telling me.
(I know the place pretty well, a friend works there) lot coulfd not handle 93 cars, period!

I know of a few dealers that have secondary storage facilities, and I bet that 93 reflects what they have coming in soon as well...

This definitely does NOT apply here in Canada where dealers are still desperate to get their hands on any rx8 they possibly can. To date some 500 of the 700 for the year have arrived. I am sure that by next spring people can expect to get them below MSRP here too but not any time before that.

Originally posted by IkeWRX


I know of a few dealers that have secondary storage facilities, and I bet that 93 reflects what they have coming in soon as well...

trust me they don't have 93 in stock. it was a marketing ploy. i call there almost daily to ask where my car is. when i call and ask for my salesperson without giving my name he answers by saying hi Rob. he knows it's me. lol

I see 5 rx8s outside at both SD mazda dealers...so i'm wondering, is this car really selling??? :mad:

Originally posted by rx7 rage
I see 5 rx8s outside at both SD mazda dealers...so i'm wondering, is this car really selling??? :mad:

I have a friend that works at Cush Mazda and she says they cycle out pretty quick but keep the most popular colors, I also drive by John Hine Mazda many times a week and it seems as if they had they same cars usually but ive noticed a few rotating out and I know they keep doubles of popular colors but only keep 1 in front usually.

Ive talked to both dealers and they said they are both selling well and everytime i goto either dealer people are looking at the 8, and since Mazda isnt a top car brand as it where tons of people will be on the lot anyway it shows how attracted people are to this car.

-Chris

My cousin in Miami has seen quite a few of them on the road now. Here in NY I havenlt seen any (except 2 at the Jersey SHore) In Ca they seem hot. I would bet Regional Differences will account for what the dealers are moving and what kind of deals they make.

They seem to be moving well in Atlanta. I went by one dealership about a week before I bought my car and saw a Titanium with GT package, exactly what I was looking for. The salesman there tried to interest me in it but I wasn't buying that day regardless. I called back later that same day and it was gone :P

Likewise the dealership I actually bought from actually seems to have 2-5 in stock at any time, as they are moving off the lot. Funny thing was, they sold a Winning Blue to a salesman at the Nissan lot right next to them! Guess he didn't like that Z too much ;)

Most dealers here have two or three at most and of course all of those are GTs.

I've also yet to see Winning Blue at all...

When I bought my Mini a year ago, the dealer always had 15-25 cars on the lot, even thought there was an 8 month waiting list at that point. All of these cars were sold - they were just out for display. Now a year later, when I'm sure the wait on one of these cars is short, there are none on the lot at all.

Here in Columbus, Oh., there are two dealerships to choose from and both have a decent supply (roughly 7 each and I've seen all colors), which actually shocks me a little bit. I am extremely excited for mine to roll in (due sometime late Sept.) and I thought that there would be more folks just as myself but apparently not.

One reason for the supply may be that there hasn't been any tv commercials here for the 8 yet. Plenty in magazines but that's about it. Who knows but I think that the more people see it the more likely they will be to buy it. Mazda as hit the nail on the head with their colors. All are distinctive and much better in person. I've only seen one around Columbus and it went right past my neighborhood of all places!

I don't know about all the talk involving the heavy discounts but I would hope to get something reasonable below MSRP. A thread earlier shows the dealer invoice sheets so that will assist me somewhat but we'll wait and see.

Originally posted by IkeWRX


I know of a few dealers that have secondary storage facilities, and I bet that 93 reflects what they have coming in soon as well...


I just dropped my car off for oil change, and some minor issues and adjustments. I have confirmed that maple shade mazda has 12 cars, between two lots, 6 cars on each lot.


The place is only 5 miles from my office!
'
If only I could debunk all the other rumers as easily!

One reason for the supply may be that there hasn't been any tv commercials here for the 8 yet.


You guys must not watch much football :) They've been airing the crap out of the ads during the games since last week (week 1).

Just a few dealers now are getting their allotments...on average now I have seen approx. 5 cars at 3 dealerships. I think most people don't even know about the car here yet unless you happened to notice one in the front of a dealer lot. Just lastnight I saw the first commercial during the Bears game. So, I think once more people know about it they will begin to sell just as quickly.....I think it's easier to negotiate now....but I only got $500 off MSRP a month go......thinking I may try to get more off by the time it arrives in October sometime.

I am in S.W. Connecticut and had to call four dealers before I found one that had one I could test drive. Everyone coming in was supposedly already sold.

I saw on websites two + pages of "stock", but all were slated to come in, they weren't sure when they would actrually arrive.

I finally found a dealer with one to drive. They had three in stock - blue, yellow, red.

I bought the red....fully loaded...at the MSRP.

They gave me real good trade on my Audi TT.

I am very pleased with the car.

I live in the Temecula area (just north of San Diego) and every single Mazda dealership within a 50 mile radius has 5 or more in stock at this time.

Thats not even counting dealers like Tustin... which have a crapload on hand. If you're still interested in an 8 a month from now, I think they will be selling for slightly above invoice, if not invoice. I havent bought my s2k yet, but if I could get an 8 at invoice... hell, that might just be too good a deal to pass up.

I wonder ehy folks who have the car are only seeing a few on lots, while thoise that do not see a lot?

hmmmmmmmm, I would wonder who to believe, but then again I have verified at least one cliam involving 90 cars at mapleshade mazda was NOT TRUE (only 6 cars per lot).


Hows that old song go "things that make you say hmmmmmm"

Well... these were pics from the Tustin dealership posted a week or two ago in the media section.

http://www.rx-8forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10516

Just called Tustin and spoke with a sales guy named Jim... they have over 20 available for sale. Should I call Irvine and ask them too?

Originally posted by klegg



I just dropped my car off for oil change, and some minor issues and adjustments. I have confirmed that maple shade mazda has 12 cars, between two lots, 6 cars on each lot.


The place is only 5 miles from my office!
'
If only I could debunk all the other rumers as easily!

my office is 5 miles from it too. i have a deposit on one i ordered in august that i'm going to be paying MSRP for. whats to stop me from getting my deposit back, which mazda said i could do and going to the lot and picking one out and possibly getting it for under MSRP at another dealership? theres one in turnersville owned by mple shade mazda too. is that the other lot you're talking about?

I think it's also a regional thing, this is not going to be a very popular car in Wi. due to our nasty winters, and I think if someone is going to buy a car that's going to be a primarily summer car why would you not get an S2k or Stang GT convertible so you can have a true summer car... I think in general Mazda probably doesn't do well in Wi., I know it's one of the few places in the country where you can find a MT Mazda 6S, and the 929, 626 were RWD so were not popular. I just called the salesperson I had when I looked at the car that I saw the 6 RX-8s at a few weeks back and they have 12 on the lot and ready to be sold.


Ike

Why can't people just accept the fact that their precious RX-8 isnt going to sell like a hotcake? And that some of us are waiting to buy the car at a reduced price instead of paying 31,000 or more? Not all of us are that rich :(.

Originally posted by success07
Here in Columbus, Oh., there are two dealerships to choose from and both have a decent supply (roughly 7 each and I've seen all colors), which actually shocks me a little bit.

I was at Ricart yesterday (9-14) and they had 14 on the lot. IIRC they had at least one in every color including Nordic Green and Winning Blue. Didn't look at them really but they seemed to have just about every trim/option level to choose from also.

As of Mon, Sept 15, one of three area dealerships has 23 RXs sitting on the lot. Most are WELL in the back. It's plausible to assume that the other dealerships in the area have similar numbers.

Not good.

ummmm...i't doesn't look like the car is selling guys. :confused: Unless someone can convince me otherwise.

Be nice..

Some of the guys on the list take this way too seriously, and we don't want to hurt their feelings.

I think right about now most of them are still tripping over people looking at their cars all the time.

It will wear off soon enough, and then reality will begin to set in.

"She's just a 3 dressed up as an 8, wastin my time.."

Name the band and get a free haircut..

I drove by my dealer this morning, and for the first time they had 8s out front- one of each color. Though, they seem to be moving pretty fast, as that's the first time I've seen that many there, and I *know* they've gotten a ton.

So, lots of cars.

How does that song go?


"Just a 3 dressed up as an eight, wastin my time.."

Ok maybe they are selling like hotcakes? I dont really know :\. Is there some report that says how many have been sold so far?

Originally posted by RX-GR8


my office is 5 miles from it too. i have a deposit on one i ordered in august that i'm going to be paying MSRP for. whats to stop me from getting my deposit back, which mazda said i could do and going to the lot and picking one out and possibly getting it for under MSRP at another dealership? theres one in turnersville owned by mple shade mazda too. is that the other lot you're talking about?

Yes, I am right by the turnersville lot. They are still sticking to MSRP. I beleive that they are being held in check by mazda, probably for the next 6 months. I tried holman, and all the phila dealerships, and they all said list. Mapleshade did give me a few "extras" so you could say I got it slightly below MSRP, but There was a reason for that. If you trade yours in you lose the free maintenance, and the $500.00 back. I guess it depends what 6 months of driving a dam good car are worth to you. For me, I would rather keep it

I have seen one down at the AC airport, but that is it!
I wonder if we have the only three in our area?

By the way, notice how no one has talked about how mapleshade had 90 or so cars, even though their lot can not hold that many?

And how come no one has givin up the name of the canaden dealer who is supposedly taking $2,000 off of the price? Guess it was all BUL$#@^!

Hope to see you on the road, can not miss me, red with blk/red leather!

I hope that guys that have deposits on a car at MSRP can get a better deal and get their car . They will like it alot and even at 230hp it will be a hell of a deal for a car that good. I'm in Canada and cars are very rare here. (RX-8 i mean) I like mine, paid a fair price in Cdn $ and have no intention of giving it back.

I'm pretty sure the US market just has too many delivered and the dealers are flooded. Sent a few hundreds up north and they will sell in no time

canzoomer:

What's the name of this song:

"With all their beady little eyes and flapping heads so full of lies."

;) ;) ;)

Originally posted by OmegaBob
What's the name of this song:

"With all their beady little eyes and flapping heads so full of lies."

;) ;)

Is it "ODE TO CANZOOMER" or the follow up smash "THE SOUND OF A BREAKDOWN" By that great group, the trolls....errr trogs.

Hee hee :D

Originally posted by OmegaBob
Hee hee :D

You think thats good, how about this

"THE SOUND OF WHINNING" (sung to the tune of sounds of silance)

Hello canzoomer, is this the end

Lets hear you whinning ocnce again

How much can one person cry....

That mazda lied and we do not know why....

You got a TT, now its time to say good byeeeee
Bye bye bye....

Have fun, in the snowey wastes of canada

Once you leave here we will prayyyyyyyyy

That you will stay awayyyyyyy

'Cuse I am sick of your repeated liesssssss

You wont be happy till mazda dies.......

Just go, and cut all your tiesssssss

bye bye bye

Just let us, talk aboutour car....In sillence......

Dont want to hear you yell and cusssssssss

Go and drive a blue bussssssss

You know, we will not miss youuuuuu

Or you constant oral poooooooooo...

How can a grown man bitch, and spend months at it tooo boo hooo hoooo

Lets all hope, for the sound of canzoomers silanceeeeeee

With apologies to anyone who can spell, or likes music.

That's my fav group!!!!!

btw - you should have added a line about a "blue bus" ;)

Originally posted by OmegaBob
That's my fav group!!!!!

btw - you should have added a line about a "blue bus" ;)

I aim to please , look now!

To quote Mr Burns:

EXCELLENT!

Originally posted by klegg
And how come no one has givin up the name of the canaden dealer who is supposedly taking $2,000 off of the price? Guess it was all BUL$#@^!


I doubt that this was a Canadian dealer. The posting was on the Yahoo! Groups list.
And those are mainly people in the USA.
Canadian dealers are still way behind orders on the RX-8.
With a total Canadian 2003 allocation supposed at 700 cars, and only about 2/3 of those delivered to dealers so far, the RX-8 is still a pretty rare beast up here. For example in Edmonton or Calgary,both cities of around a million, there are still roughly 10 cars in each city.

Anyway, if you want to watch this thread go sign up for the Yahoo! group.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/RX8/

If ANYONE can find me an RX-8 for 2500 below MSRP, I will pay you 1500 dollars.. heh heh. about 45 on the lot. That is a joke. I have seen no more than 2 at a time at my dealer. All others are pre-sold.

Originally posted by Lee Chun
If ANYONE can find me an RX-8 for 2500 below MSRP, I will pay you 1500 dollars.. heh heh. about 45 on the lot. That is a joke. I have seen no more than 2 at a time at my dealer. All others are pre-sold.

You're in Cali, it's going to be in higher demand there compared to most states.


Ike

Originally posted by Zio
Why can't people just accept the fact that their precious RX-8 isnt going to sell like a hotcake? And that some of us are waiting to buy the car at a reduced price instead of paying 31,000 or more? Not all of us are that rich :(.
Careful! Don't say that. They will (sob..) WRITE SONGS ABOUT YOU!

Originally posted by IkeWRX
You're in Cali, it's going to be in higher demand there compared to most states.
Then how about Colorado? We have snowy winters too, yet RX-8s are relatively hard to come by. My closest dealer has two, both GTs and doesn't have an open order slot until after the first of the year. The biggest dealer in the area has five - all above MSRP. The local "AutoNation" dealer has theirs all priced at a "no haggle price" of MSRP + $3K.

The RX-8 is also a somewhat unique vehicle in that I wouldn't buy one off the lot - things like the port spare tire option cost significantly more if added at the dealer (you get to pay for the mount/wheel and tire separately in the latter case), so why not order one?

Tustin Mazda in Orange County may be ready to deal. Just drove by today, and not only do they have a ton of RX-8's on the lot (front and back), they've put those annoying windshield stickers on the car. "But it now!" and "Hot car!" etc. in multi-colored cartoonish letters. I'll bet they need to move them... Unless they're expecting to sell a ton when Sevenstock comes to town...

Originally posted by canzoomer

Careful! Don't say that. They will (sob..) WRITE SONGS ABOUT YOU!

I only write songs about people I am found of. Remember what my pa used to say: You only hurt the ones you love.

Really, you are a good sport about it all.

Originally posted by canzoomer


I doubt that this was a Canadian dealer. The posting was on the Yahoo! Groups list.
And those are mainly people in the USA.
Canadian dealers are still way behind orders on the RX-8.
With a total Canadian 2003 allocation supposed at 700 cars, and only about 2/3 of those delivered to dealers so far, the RX-8 is still a pretty rare beast up here. For example in Edmonton or Calgary,both cities of around a million, there are still roughly 10 cars in each city.

Anyway, if you want to watch this thread go sign up for the Yahoo! group.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/RX8/

I did, and so did a few other people. That person is not responding to our requests for info.

I wonder why.

'cause it is BS?

Originally posted by Lee Chun
If ANYONE can find me an RX-8 for 2500 below MSRP, I will pay you 1500 dollars.. heh heh. about 45 on the lot. That is a joke. I have seen no more than 2 at a time at my dealer. All others are pre-sold.

I know down here in Austin Texas they have at least 10 - 15 on either or the 3 dealerships I have been to. They sometimes say they don't and that they are selling like hotcakes but I still seem to see a bunch of the same ones. Mazda has seemed to flood the market with the car. I am not saying that having an ample supply is a bad thing and I believe they will eventually sale them but I think they are definately not following what Honda did with the S2000 where you had to order one and wait months for it to come in. That kept demand hi but supply low. I like the fact that I can actually go out and test drive the RX-8. I have not gotten a quote for one yet but I know they will sale them less then MSRP or they are being stupid! Each month the car sets at the dealership they pay a tax on the car as with any inventory.

What was the point of all of this anyway canzoomer? Do you have nothing better to do with your time than hang around an RX-8 board and make negative posts non-stop?

This whole post was nothing more than troll-bait. Way to go canzoomer. So why exactly are you still here?

I still think part of it is that people don't know much or heard or seen the car yet! Once they do, they drive it and see all the cool features they will buy it. My dealer has 6 of them. I finally drove the automatic lastnight. Hubby thought it was ok.....he expected more power and to me it had plenty. It does take a few seconds to get to the power you are looking for and that may be the complaint. Once the power kicks in....woohoo it;s a blast and the handling is superb! I am still buying it boys!!

Originally posted by newport8
Tustin Mazda in Orange County may be ready to deal. Just drove by today, and not only do they have a ton of RX-8's on the lot (front and back), they've put those annoying windshield stickers on the car. "But it now!" and "Hot car!" etc. in multi-colored cartoonish letters. I'll bet they need to move them... Unless they're expecting to sell a ton when Sevenstock comes to town...

Tustin Mazda was trying to rape people on price...I called them back in late June and they said "give us a $500 deposit and we can reserve one for you at only $2,500 over MSRP." I told them to pound sand and a month later walked in and bought from Irvine Mazda at MSRP for a car that was "at the port." It took me two weeks after that to actually get the car.

I agree with many on the thread that prices have got to come down. Several of my friends have asked if I was going to take the buyback offer and then go get another one below MSRP. All I know is that I am driving this thing like a stole it (to quote someone or some song) and will make a decision in the next two weeks.

Oh, I drove a 540 6-sp yesterday--tons of power (it really is making what they advertise), but the throws on the stick were so long I thought I was rowing a frigging boat! I can't deny loving the short throws of the 8's stick!

<p>Last weekend I visited one BMW dealership. They had plenty of '04 3 series
cars on the lot. Does that mean they are unpopular?</p>
<p>As I see it, it was Mazda's strategy from the very beginning to make RX-8 an
affordable practical sport car appealing to relatively wide public (hence - four
doors and four seats, no turbo etc.) . Cars of this type ought to be on the
dealership lots. Mazda is not going to limit production of RX-8, like Ferrary
does, in order to maintain an absurd margin. Therefore the fact that the cars
are available indicates nothing. Besides, look at what is happening with other
similar cars: Z350, Infinity G35C, EVO etc. Do you see a lot of those on the
roads? And their production started much earlier.</p>
<p>In general, regardless of the car merits, I do not think that RX-8 will ever
be sold in numbers close to those of Eclipse, Mustang (cheaper version) and
others in the 15K to 22K range.</p>
<p>On a practical note, I visited Mazda Gallery dealership in MA a few days ago
(Route 1, Norwood) and they did have about 6 RX-8 cars, mostly black ones. I was
immediately offered GT version for $200 below MSRP and a salesperson was willing
to go lower.</p>

Originally posted by Mazda Monkey


Keep dreaming. Mazda has not even advertised on TV yet.

Mazda's big advertising push starts on Monday night football on Sept. 15. Last Night. You will start seeing more and more of them.

One commercial is here:


http://www.wavidart.com/movies/RX8hug.mov

Here in TN, I have been looking at the RX-8. I have had two seperate salesmen at two seperate dealerships offer to take $500 and $750, respectively, off of the car BEFORE I even started negotiating. I would anticipate that I could get one at least $1000 under MSRP with a little persuasion.

Just a hint guys: If you call a dealership and say "Hey, what kind of disounts are you willing to give me on a new RX-8?" no salesman in his right mind would do anything less than tell you "none". If they were smart, they would tell you how hot the car is and how fast they are selling. They would tell you that they only had a few that weren't spoken for and that you had better hurry down with your checkbook to get yours TODAY!!!!! Most dealers won't quote you a real price over the phone, they want to get you "in the box" before they start dealing.

Originally posted by tagS60
Here in TN, I have been looking at the RX-8. I have had two seperate salesmen at two seperate dealerships offer to take $500 and $750, respectively, off of the car BEFORE I even started negotiating. I would anticipate that I could get one at least $1000 under MSRP with a little persuasion.

Just a hint guys: If you call a dealership and say "Hey, what kind of disounts are you willing to give me on a new RX-8?" no salesman in his right mind would do anything less than tell you "none". If they were smart, they would tell you how hot the car is and how fast they are selling. They would tell you that they only had a few that weren't spoken for and that you had better hurry down with your checkbook to get yours TODAY!!!!! Most dealers won't quote you a real price over the phone, they want to get you "in the box" before they start dealing.

Question I have, why would they offer to knock anything off MSRP before you even negotiated with them? Maybe a "lowball" offer just to get you in the door. Plus, you don't yet know what they will try to make on the "back end" of the deal.

Just some thoughts....

Originally posted by MrRed
<p>Last weekend I visited one BMW dealership. They had plenty of '04 3 series
cars on the lot. Does that mean they are unpopular?</p>


No, but it probably means that you won't have to pay MSRP for one, much less a premium to that.

Originally posted by rxeight


I know down here in Austin Texas they have at least 10 - 15 on either or the 3 dealerships I have been to. They sometimes say they don't and that they are selling like hotcakes but I still seem to see a bunch of the same ones. Mazda has seemed to flood the market with the car. I am not saying that having an ample supply is a bad thing and I believe they will eventually sale them but I think they are definately not following what Honda did with the S2000 where you had to order one and wait months for it to come in. That kept demand hi but supply low. I like the fact that I can actually go out and test drive the RX-8. I have not gotten a quote for one yet but I know they will sale them less then MSRP or they are being stupid! Each month the car sets at the dealership they pay a tax on the car as with any inventory.

Check the very back of Mazda South.....there are another 15 back there in addition to the 9 up front.

Originally posted by MrRed
<p>Therefore the fact that the cars
are available indicates nothing. Besides, look at what is happening with other
similar cars: Z350, Infinity G35C, EVO etc. Do you see a lot of those on the
roads? And their production started much earlier.

Uh, Yeah.....actually I see lots and lots of all of these cars you mentioned on the roads. But NEVER any more than 2 or 3 at the dealerships.

here I have seen probably 10 z cars locally, 1-2 Evos and 2 G35 coupes (both in my neighborhood) there are 3 RX8's that I have seen on the road.

Mostly SUV and truck people.

$2500 off MSRP of a Rx-8 GT seems a bit unbelievable, but ...
I paid $800 below MSRP at the end of August for my silver sunlight GT. I just sent in my letter for the $500 debit card and I've getting the 4 yrs of free maintenance, which I would guess is worth >$1000. (I called Mazda and supposedly I'm getting all the maintenance listed in schedule 1.)

$800 + $500 + $1000 = $2300. Wahoo!!!

I'm not seeing any of the power or gas mileage issues that some people are seeing so I'm pretty happy at this point in time.

Since summer is rapidly ending in my part of the country, I'm guessing getting $400-$1000 off MSRP might not be too hard. I can't believe many RX-8s will be sold when the snow starts flying so dealers will start to lower prices. Also with the Mazda S-Plan for employees and suppliers probably kicking in next year, people may start to get discounts of 4-6% off MSRP early next year anyway.

It should be interesting to see how sales go for the Rx-8 - http://www.miata.net/news/sales.html

At the local dealership in Richmond, I saw at least 8 on the lot.

When the Z came out, I did not see any at the dealerships around here for a long time. It wasn't until the past two months since I've been seeing them more.

I really don't mind, and in fact I hope they do overproduce so I can get one dirt cheap.

The only reason you buy a car is to drive it. . .

No car is a good investment.

I picked up my car in July. Paid $400 under and got the rebate and service card, no dealer fees at all.

I am happy with that. Yes, if I waited until now, I would have it for about $1000 - $1200 off MSRP -- but I have been driving it for 3000 miles and got the service and debit card.

The below MSRP deals I have seen are not a bad omen at all -- the same thing happened for big-time cars like the Z3/TT/Boxster/911/Z4/350Z/H2/MINI etc.

Bottom line: The car is worth +/- $30 grand. try to get the best deal you can -- no knock on the car at all (based on availability, weather, economy, etc)