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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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don't be lazy, go buy them tomorrow.
PLUS, the drive there can be done in the name of Automotive Research and Science since we still need to figure out how your RX-8 got V-tec installed in it!
oh dont get me wrong...its currently in the hands of stabby mcgee...i have this theory...follow me here...

reman goes in...AP reflashed w/ f'n old map...

i move...to CA...

i checked...but i had posted earlier, before leaving that i was having flappity valve port sticky issues...

car gets driven by stabby...gets all carboned and gunked up...

on dyno day...first pull was pre-flash...it was so gunked it caused the aborted run due to the WTF factor...jeff goes in and checks the map...goes...WTF...old map...reflashes

(which btw,

thanks Jeff...need to send that dude some beer, havent had time to reflash my AP or anything, so he took care of updating everything and dropped in the new maps, and got it all sorted...i totally got my money worth just on time spent for me to go about doing it, and then getting the data, and follow his procedures, etc, etc...

as the MM-AP customer...im the crappiest one...dude still takes care of you...provided your not a douche or retard...and even then ive noticed he'll make an effort to try...

but i digress...)

second pull on the dyno...was clean enough to register and prevent abortion...the reflash got things hotter quicker and since ive kept stabby in the dark about the secrets of the rotary...mainly for the protection of my investment...i doubt she would know about the whole...occasionally you have to drive the **** out of them..."beep a day keeps the carbon away"

third pull is "cleaner" but something is definitely off...

it rarely got driven as stabby likes to walk...

since ive gotten back and manually messed around with the SSV and VDT, and about to perform a VFADectomy and UIM cleanup...the transitions have gotten better as i work with it...

im thinking the "init data" from her drive in the PCM is totally shot to ****...its getting better because I am probably the first time those ports are even engaging...

im betting this is...sea foam, and manual cleanup type of job...reset the PCM, and then I provide the "init data" for the PCM tables so everything is adjusted properly...

this is probably just carbon, gunk due to a "mistreated" rotary...
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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I'm following along but I see some discrepancies.

Jeff updated AP before putting car on dyno... 3 AP's bricked in 24 hours showed us that last firmware by Cobb was written by Commi's and they were out to get our cars...
There goes the 1st pull theory...

You drive your car the way it's supposed to be driven which means not much carbon in there...
Carbon won't build up that quickly with Stabby driving / walking if you were only gone a month or two...

Pulls did get cleaner but keep in mine I was the first to drive your car the way it was 'supposed' to be driven. Did that the night of the battery was put in...

Seafoam is a start but not sure it'll solve all our issues.

Init data might be an issue but with the PCM reflashed, init data should be good via Jeff's new map...

Oh, and I'm partial to the Mazda spray stuff, you get to play with nipples...
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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I use seafoam and play with nipples!! just use a vacuum hose and a shot glass that way one person can do it you don't need a second one.. I think it might work better than Mazda's stuff but hey that's me, Ive been using seafoam for years though so I'm biased ..

get some deep creep clean up all the flappers, seafoam the housings twice and call it a day.

Shifting at 4k for a month or two will get some nasty buildup on our cars.. also if it was running rich due to the old maps which I think it was that could add to the problem.

have you taken off the intake components and checked things out yet?
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
I'm following along but I see some discrepancies.

Jeff updated AP before putting car on dyno... 3 AP's bricked in 24 hours showed us that last firmware by Cobb was written by Commi's and they were out to get our cars...
There goes the 1st pull theory...
right, but he didnt update the MAPS until after pull 1...

Originally Posted by Jedi54
You drive your car the way it's supposed to be driven which means not much carbon in there...
Yeah, but it had JUST gotten the reman installed before moving, did the RB break-in procedure...ish

And then its sees a few minutes in traffic...and SOMETIMES get's beeped...since I tend to be courteous to my neighbors...so only when its around people that dont know where I live...

So its not like I might have been contributing to the problem...maybe I wasnt flogging her hard enough...

Originally Posted by Jedi54
Carbon won't build up that quickly with Stabby driving / walking if you were only gone a month or two...
nah she was going to LA occasionally, took it on a road trip to vegas for a NIN concert...shes USED it...but not...USED it...ya know...

Originally Posted by Jedi54
Pulls did get cleaner but keep in mine I was the first to drive your car the way it was 'supposed' to be driven. Did that the night of the battery was put in...
yeah which one burn isnt going to be enough...

Originally Posted by Jedi54
Seafoam is a start but not sure it'll solve all our issues.

Init data might be an issue but with the PCM reflashed, init data should be good via Jeff's new map...

Oh, and I'm partial to the Mazda spray stuff, you get to play with nipples...
See, I'm just thinking that it just needs some old fashioned loving...so I'll get her in the garage, open it up, smack it, flip it, rub it dooown...oh noezzz!!

Mazda spray stuff sounds like the winner then...unless the delta between the two is substantial...

However...you did say I'd get to play with the nipples...so I guess I can see the value proposition...which therefore solves my dilemma...nipples...FTMFW

Good job Mazda...I love you bastards...*sniff

Originally Posted by shadycrew31
I use seafoam and play with nipples!! just use a vacuum hose and a shot glass that way one person can do it you don't need a second one.. I think it might work better than Mazda's stuff but hey that's me, Ive been using seafoam for years though so I'm biased ..

get some deep creep clean up all the flappers, seafoam the housings twice and call it a day.

Shifting at 4k for a month or two will get some nasty buildup on our cars.. also if it was running rich due to the old maps which I think it was that could add to the problem.

have you taken off the intake components and checked things out yet?
yeah...thinkin about it...not yet...

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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Pulls did get cleaner but keep in mind I was the first to drive your car the way it was 'supposed' to be driven. Did that the night of the battery was put in...
wait a minute...WTF!!!

you son of a...

oh god...now i feel all dirty...your soo eating wall as soon as i see your tall *** out there...


hah

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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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I think I can make it this Sat!
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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1. photo chick
2. eviltwinkie
3. atilla
4. krazie kave
5. jedi54
6. shadycrew31
7. rollerbldes
8. newcastle
9. emperorben
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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i'm looking forward to this weekend for the following reasons:

1. i do not need to grow touchable features and long hair.
2. this will be a good break from studying.
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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sooo.... Karting @ 5:00
Dinner / drinks afterwards?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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^YES!!

Karting always makes me sooooo horn.....errr hungry
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
sooo.... Karting @ 5:00
Dinner / drinks afterwards?
Maybe on the drinks.. I might have made plans and I wont know until we get out.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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^YES!!

Karting always makes me sooooo horn.....errr hungry
thats why i generally try to eat ahead of time...man...im starving right meow...

Originally Posted by shadycrew31
Maybe on the drinks.. I might have made plans and I wont know until we get out.
wtf? how does that work?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Well i don't know what time I'm getting out. So im just gonna call my friend and see if she wants to go out or not.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Which car is evils?

The silver one?

I may make it to Irvine.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 12:01 PM
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twinkie has the JDM Silver
You gonna hit the track with us???
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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I think so...
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Which car is evils?

The silver one?

I may make it to Irvine.
Originally Posted by Jedi54
twinkie has the JDM Silver
You gonna hit the track with us???
Yea, look for the RHD JDM Super Stealthy Silver...you might just miss it...its THAT stealthy...

I'm telling you Jedi...its an MS8...
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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photos = NOT an MS8.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
sooo.... Karting @ 5:00
Dinner / drinks afterwards?
as always, yup!

and remember, today is the last day of the week to get the 3 races/$40 deal!!! you have until 10pm tonight!
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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pretty purple writing...
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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purple is my fave it's good for people with our coloring. brings out the tones beautifully

current list of those attending...

1. photo chick
2. eviltwinkie
3. atilla
4. krazie kave
5. jedi54
6. shadycrew31
7. rollerbldes
8. newcastle
9. emperorben
10. razz1 (?)
11. dozer (?)
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Newcastle is M.I.A.
I fear he has been captured by aliens, killed by a transvestite midget, or been deported to Nicaragua.

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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
Newcastle is M.I.A.
I fear he has been captured by aliens, killed by a transvestite midget, or been deported to Nicaragua.


Worst.......i'm married























I'll show up with the wife and kids
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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ask and you shall receive

so does that make you a go for sat?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by photo chick
ask and you shall receive

so does that make you a go for sat?
oh man, it's worse then we feared!! I think the transvestite midgets would have been a less painful ordeal.
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