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I have the same dissapointment as the above guys, i would have gone with dba4000 single piece slotted and just found weight savings elsewhere, if i knew i was only saving 1.8lbs.
The quality does look great though. |
+1!
The rears seem to turn a bit blue at the disc fingers by the hub... They look good, but dunno if i'm wow'd by it now having it. Thx for weighing them. I figured they felt almost the same during the install... Also disappointed here, was expecting more :(
Originally Posted by vcoil
(Post 4233266)
I was the first, together with bse, to pre-order these, pay in advance, agree to wait MONTHS, just for saving weight as in their claims.
NOT to have fun changing the original rotors with two fancy pieces ones. My precision scale (Voltcraft +/- 20g (0,044lbs)) says: Girodisc Front 15.60lbs Girodisc Rear 9.86lbs Oem front (60 kmiles older) 17,42lbs Oem rear (I haven't one to weight). So for the fronts is 1,82 lbs per rotor gain (800g) means they declared a 3 times bigger gain. I suppose for the rear rotors is quite the same. Is this a scam? Girodisc didn't respected their description; they didn't updated the specs during the design&testing period and didn't made any request to refund to us due to the fact the final product is far away from the announced and never updated one. Girodisc (not THM) should directly refund all of us the 2/3 of the difference between their price and the oem part price because the gain is only 1/3 of the announced one. Regards Furious :mad: Davide P.S. Just an advise, the packaging need to be improved: I received a rotor hat scuffed/chipped. |
Well...
Priority Mail International Parcels Payment of charges - Item being held, addressee being notified March 28, 2012, 12:36 pm ITALY Yeah, that's for 2 of the 4 discs. Now I also come to know that they are not as light as i thought they'd be. Wow. |
Guys,
Originally the weights listed initially was based on previous projections and projects that GiroDisc has made. Basically, unless you use carbon, this is as light as it gets while still keeping it very strong, floating, and safe. Girodisc made them as best as possible. And they did not cut any corners or compromise safety. And others that have attempted this have failed. My stock front rotors weigh in at 18.5 lbs. These weigh in at 15.5. 3 lbs of rotational mass is pretty damn good. As well as they are 2 piece floating... Again 3 lbs in the front...not sure on the rears yet...have to test. I am pretty happy with my rotors. But yeah...carbon 10lbs rotors would be pretty amazing. But I do not have $20K to drop on something like that. My 2 cents -Adam |
It's not the weight per se, just the claim.
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*fronts are 5.5lbs lighter than OEM (per rotor)
*rears are 4.5lbs lighter than OEM (per rotor) From the first page of this thread. For future sales, don't say stuff like this if it's not 100% sure. For me i'm happy with the disc's, I guess they will work out great at the track and they still are a little bit lighter then OEM disc's =) |
Originally Posted by fastlaneracing
(Post 4234253)
*fronts are 5.5lbs lighter than OEM (per rotor)
*rears are 4.5lbs lighter than OEM (per rotor) From the first page of this thread. For future sales, don't say stuff like this if it's not 100% sure. For me i'm happy with the disc's, I guess they will work out great at the track and they still are a little bit lighter then OEM disc's =) As soon as I get a chance to weigh in the rears I will edit this info... But still...they are lighter and stronger than stock. They look bad ass and racing on these rotors in the past I know they will perform. GiroDisc made them as light as possible without interfering with safety. -Adam |
Sure but from our perspective (europe) they violated some commerce-e-commerce laws and should make amend\refund us the difference.
We may seem strange at times, living in the old continent... but i swear it's just the legal system lol! |
Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 4235601)
Sure but from our perspective (europe) they violated some commerce-e-commerce laws and should make amend\refund us the difference.
We may seem strange at times, living in the old continent... but i swear it's just the legal system lol! |
Well then no need to delve any further into this...
AND I GOT MY 2 MISSING DISCS! Delays and claims aside, which weren't your fault, you really helped me sorting this mishap. Thank you Adam! |
Did you read my last email Adam? the one about the extra custom fees.
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Originally Posted by vcoil
(Post 4233266)
I was the first, together with bse, to pre-order these, pay in advance, agree to wait MONTHS, just for saving weight as in their claims.
NOT to have fun changing the original rotors with two fancy pieces ones. My precision scale (Voltcraft +/- 20g (0,044lbs)) says: Girodisc Front 15.60lbs Girodisc Rear 9.86lbs Oem front (60 kmiles older) 17,42lbs Oem rear (I haven't one to weight). So for the fronts is 1,82 lbs per rotor gain (800g) means they declared a 3 times bigger gain. I suppose for the rear rotors is quite the same. Is this a scam? Girodisc didn't respected their description; they didn't updated the specs during the design&testing period and didn't made any request to refund to us due to the fact the final product is far away from the announced and never updated one. Girodisc (not THM) should directly refund all of us the 2/3 of the difference between their price and the oem part price because the gain is only 1/3 of the announced one. Regards Furious :mad: Davide P.S. Just an advise, the packaging need to be improved: I received a rotor hat scuffed/chipped. for comparison: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5192606089/http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5193203858/http://www.flickr.com/photos/9krpmrx8/5192605493/ |
Adam, did you get the package?
On sunday the disc are going to be tested at the swedish track Mantorp Park and my "The Stig" are going to try them out also. He has tested different racing brakes for decades (in both sprint and endurance racing, touring cars and formula cars), lets see if he approves them =) Actually he did give my old combo tumbs up for being almost stock; Motul RBF660, Steel braided brake lines and Hawk DTC-60. |
Bump... did you read my email Adam?
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Originally Posted by fastlaneracing
(Post 4238102)
Adam, did you get the package?
On sunday the disc are going to be tested at the swedish track Mantorp Park and my "The Stig" are going to try them out also. He has tested different racing brakes for decades (in both sprint and endurance racing, touring cars and formula cars), lets see if he approves them =) Actually he did give my old combo tumbs up for being almost stock; Motul RBF660, Steel braided brake lines and Hawk DTC-60. Yes sir got it! Wearing the hat right now...wore the tshirt yesterday! haha!! thank you man. Sweet man....beat them up and let us know. I stand very confident with these rotors. Otherwise I would not track our STi with these. Enjoy! -Adam |
I feel ignored!
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Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 4238496)
Bump... did you read my email Adam?
Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 4238624)
I feel ignored!
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Don't worry, i know you're pretty straightforward. My @email.xx email gets often blocked as well.
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Originally Posted by THmotorsports.com
(Post 4238507)
Yes sir got it! Wearing the hat right now...wore the tshirt yesterday! haha!! thank you man.
Sweet man....beat them up and let us know. I stand very confident with these rotors. Otherwise I would not track our STi with these. Enjoy! -Adam For me it was my worst trackday ever, engine probably blown, have some theories but havent got time yet to start working with it. even got an full blown tire and broke an RPF1 rim. all this in 4 laps in the first heat. somebody up there must hated me yesterday. =( But the brakes was superb. didnt get any chanse to heat up the pads and rotors to really test them but I had to adjust my braking points many meters on that track even with cold brakes. So they are good for all here to know. |
Sorry to hear Ingemar.
Lmk if you need any help with the engine :( |
I'll update you BSE later via PM, got a call from one off our local rotary builders already, didnt have time to speak mutch because i'm in a middle of family bussiness also (family member has died).
So its not my best times in life but that's how life is. Time to start my project Time Attack RX-8 little bit earlier then expected. Right now im not an fan of Renesis.... 13B REW Turbo sound just better and better. |
Bump
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Adam you didn't reply to my last email!
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Adam,
are there any brake pads that GiroDisc recommends to stay clear of? I was thinking of running Ceramic pads for street duties (im daily driving the rx8 atm and sick of the brake dust from the HP+) Then a more aggressive set for track days? What does everyone recommend? |
i'd go with the same pad manufacturer and different compounds.
Let's say hawk hps for the streets and ht-10 (or hp+ on street tyres) for the track. Still waiting on a reply here anyway. |
Adam, a list of pads that Girodisc does and does not recommend to be used would be great!
Thanks BSE, was thinking of running Hawk Ceramics for street, then Carbotech XP12 front Biggest concern i have is, does changing pad compounds effect braking performance at all? |
I would worry more about rotor life than braking performance if the compounds are incompatible :)
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Originally Posted by Giustino
(Post 4255413)
Adam, a list of pads that Girodisc does and does not recommend to be used would be great!
Thanks BSE, was thinking of running Hawk Ceramics for street, then Carbotech XP12 front Biggest concern i have is, does changing pad compounds effect braking performance at all?
Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 4255574)
I would worry more about rotor life than braking performance if the compounds are incompatible :)
I use Stoptech Street Performance on my street setups...I am not a fan of the Organic and ceramic hawk pads...they just don't last as far as constant friction and once overheated they just plain suck...even if you have plenty of pad left. And than they can glaze over the rotors... I like the stoptech's (used to be called the Axxis Ultimate basically) But there is not a single brake pad that they would NOT recommend. These are tough rotors... -Adam |
News about my custom\taxes situation?
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Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 4256113)
News about my custom\taxes situation?
Sorry man -Adam |
Well looks like I ended up being screwed twice by girodisc. Fake weight claims and double customs.
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Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 4258425)
Well looks like I ended up being screwed twice by girodisc. Fake weight claims and double customs.
As far as customs go, that is a tough one...I wish there was more that I can do on that one for you. International shipping is tough, this is why a lot of companies do not do it, its just a pain in the butt no mater which way you look at it. But again no one had any intentions of screwing you over man. Sorry you feel that way. If there is anything I can do for you in the future let me know. I can sell you stiff at cost, to perhaps offset the difference. LMK -Adam |
I know you didn't try to screw me over. It's Girodisc that proved to be smoke-sellers like most companies out there. First they take our payments after making claims they can't back up with facts (disc weights), then show how incompetent they are shipping the product the wrong way.
As an international sale between the parties they should know that they're responsible for both their mistakes. However I don't have time to fight over little amounts of money so I will just take note of their behavior and buy the rings and hardware straight from the manufacturer ( www.Colemanracing.com ). |
Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 4258671)
I know you didn't try to screw me over. It's Girodisc that proved to be smoke-sellers like most companies out there. First they take our payments after making claims they can't back up with facts (disc weights), then show how incompetent they are shipping the product the wrong way.
As an international sale between the parties they should know that they're responsible for both their mistakes. However I don't have time to fight over little amounts of money so I will just take note of their behavior and buy the rings and hardware straight from the manufacturer ( www.Colemanracing.com ). |
Adam, and my pads?
I've sent you an email... Thanking you in advance |
Originally Posted by vcoil
(Post 4269399)
Adam, and my pads?
I've sent you an email... Thanking you in advance |
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