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Old 01-29-2010, 12:07 AM
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I dont think people that havent been to the meet should be allowed to vote, Hell uncivil hasnt even been to a 8 meet since, oh idk when. its been a good 8 months, he always ssays hes coming but he doesnt (no offense just repeating what ive heard)



so i shouldnt get to vote just because i didnt have an 8 last year when yall had the meet?


Sorry what i meant is people that dont contribute to the RX8 community and are just members but dont show up etc. shouldnt count, understand? I dont think someone who says they are going to make it, but never do should count towards the vote.

I think you should be able to vote since obviously you are apart of the 8 community and go to meets and talk to people. Your vote would count since you have participated before in the past and your vote would be Valid, my point is you have DONE your time recently so you should get to vote but the people that havent showed face time should be able, inactive members of the 8 community shouldnt count since they dont show up anyways, why should their vote affect the rest when they dont have to deal with it?. but i dont think people that have showed up and contributed should be allowed to vote but HELL i dont even agree with this poll in the first place

I think it should be in the middle, or atleast in a place where everyone has to travel to get it and STAY there, just my opinion

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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
i thought it was a fun and memorable event.
lulz
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ahh ok... i got ya....

well i am up for anywhere...(of course i prefer SA)..i just hope we can settle on a place soon so we can get some ideas of where we will be staying
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i think this is getting ridiculous. thomas and steve need to collaborate with a few of the people from san antonio who always head things up there, they need to decide this and everyone else needs to deal with it. you dont have to attend. I think that once you put forth the effort to organize the meet you should have a say in where it is and what happens.

representative democracy. this is why we use it. if everyones opinions actually mattered nothing would get done.
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Originally Posted by deadphoenix52
lulz
Nick thinks it was funny lol

Originally Posted by autotragic rx8
ahh ok... i got ya....

well i am up for anywhere...(of course i prefer SA)..i just hope we can settle on a place soon so we can get some ideas of where we will be staying
And I agree with you as far as hoping on settling in a place soonm but it should be the same place as always, idk I just want the Annual Texas 8 State Meet to be a fun and exciting and out of the normal not just a normal cruise y'all do because yall are close. I had fun at the last State Meet and met some SA people and overall it was fun. BUT everyone should be in one place because in some of the pictures we missed some of the SA crew because they would drive home at night and would be left out of last second events (like the at night pics of mini stone henge)
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
Nick thinks it was funny lol
you calling it memorable is funny
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Originally Posted by deadphoenix52
i think this is getting ridiculous. thomas and steve need to collaborate with a few of the people from san antonio who always head things up there, they need to decide this and everyone else needs to deal with it. you dont have to attend. I think that once you put forth the effort to organize the meet you should have a say in where it is and what happens.

representative democracy. this is why we use it. if everyones opinions actually mattered nothing would get done.

I agree with everything but a Annual state meet should be in the same place.
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
I agree with everything but a Annual state meet should be in the same place.
location doesnt matter. kerrvile or san antonio. or any other small town around there. the event should be the same. location can change every year for all i care.

the olympics move around. the events are the same. superbowl, again. just about any major event can change location as long as the event remains in tact

The only absolute integral part of this meet is driving the 3 sisters and stopping for apple pie.

i dont care if all ya'll drive to lubbock and we leave from here. thats the only thing that needs to happen for me to consider it a successful state-wide meet

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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
I dont think people that havent been to the meet should be allowed to vote, Hell uncivil hasnt even been to a 8 meet since, oh idk when. its been a good 8 months, he always ssays hes coming but he doesnt (no offense just repeating what ive heard)




And as for you Grunge, im sorry you didnt have a good time then, I have a blast as well as everyone at that table did. Im sorry to hear that, i thought it was a fun and memorable event. But the fact of the matter is yes no drinking should be allowed but that is part of the liability stand point. Since the DFW crew is hosting the event if someone from the SA crew had a few drinks and drives home drunk and something bad happens we, or mostly the main people from the DFW crew who set up the event are at fault and could get in serious trouble. A nice big, safe place to be would be preferable, like all of us at one hotel. THEN drinking would be allowed as everyone would just go back to their hotel room, LIKE i did...

Now im sorry you didnt have fun that one night. I thought it was nice meeting you but if you werent having fun why did you stay? no one told you you had to stay, granted Yes i am young but i thought me getting a tad drunk made the night. maybe not for you but to everyone at the table from the DFW crew had fun, hell didnt even Corn's wife have fun and make funny faces or something in the background for Prom Pictures, if you werent having fun then leave, no offense man but im pretty sure everyone else had a blast.

Actually I do remember some of the people at the table making comments about how big of idiot you were being... not to mention the drinking and driving you were doing prior to heading back to the hotel from Sonic.

Oh and trust me if it wasn't for the fact that I had a room there I would have headed back home after the Sonic meet. To be completely honest, I didn't have that much fun last year at all. A friends car got wrecked because everyone was rushing to catch up to the main group, and then most didn't really even care to see what happened to said driver. And you can't say it was just that event, because we had a similar incident happen to another 8 the year prior and if it wasn't for Corn staying back to help him limp his 8 back to Kerrville who knows how he would have made it back.... But yet at the same event we stopped the whole group for one non-8 driver to fix his exhaust. Sorry if I sound hostile but there is more to this event than just the DFW crew.... if you want to have your weekend in kerrville with just your crew that is fine, we do plenty of runs to the hill country ourselves. Maybe that is the problem, we know those roads so much that to us it is just another cruise. That is one of main reasons I suggested we suggested changing the route up a little bit, keep the 3 sisters but add other roads that can be just as fun. And to be honest, that time of the year could be better spent tubing down the guadalupe river than watching a kid make an *** of himself again. No offense.
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Originally Posted by deadphoenix52
location doesnt matter. kerrvile or san antonio. or any other small town around there. the event should be the same. settling location can change every year for all i care.

the olympics move around. the events are the same. superbowl, again. just about any major event can change location as long as the event remains in tact

The only absolute integral part of this meet is driving the 3 sisters and stopping for apple pie.

i dont care if all ya'll drive to lubbock and we leave from here. thats the only thing that needs to happen for me to consider it a successful state-wide meet

Yes some events like the superbowl and olympics move around, some events move and some dont, like Deals gap but imo I believe this event should NOT move until we get a big enough fanbase where we can move it around from year to year, even that moving events around is a hassle imo.
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Originally Posted by Grungepup
Actually I do remember some of the people at the table making comments about how big of idiot you were being... not to mention the drinking and driving you were doing prior to heading back to the hotel from Sonic.

Oh and trust me if it wasn't for the fact that I had a room there I would have headed back home after the Sonic meet. To be completely honest, I didn't have that much fun last year at all. A friends car got wrecked because everyone was rushing to catch up to the main group, and then most didn't really even care to see what happened to said driver. And you can't say it was just that event, because we had a similar incident happen to another 8 the year prior and if it wasn't for Corn staying back to help him limp his 8 back to Kerrville who knows how he would have made it back.... But yet at the same event we stopped the whole group for one non-8 driver to fix his exhaust. Sorry if I sound hostile but there is more to this event than just the DFW crew.... if you want to have your weekend in kerrville with just your crew that is fine, we do plenty of runs to the hill country ourselves. Maybe that is the problem, we know those roads so much that to us it is just another cruise. That is one of main reasons I suggested we suggested changing the route up a little bit, keep the 3 sisters but add other roads that can be just as fun. And to be honest, that time of the year could be better spent tubing down the guadalupe river than watching a kid make an *** of himself again. No offense.

Alright then fair enough, thats your opinion and i respect it.

As far as driving to Stone henge, I was not drunk, i was tipsy and I felt fine but i will accept responsibilty for that action was WRONG. Maybe I think i had fun at the table that night because I NEVER drink so it was memorable to me, and as far as people making fun of me, i dont think it was supposed to be in any rude way as the DFW crew would not do that, if anything i believe they were joking as I make a fool of myself drunk or not, I feel right at home with the DFW crew.

but i apologize for last years event to not be fun regardless of it being my fault or your friend Kevo wrecking his car. I am sorry, if you feel changing up the route a little would help it become more fun then im ALL for it, i just dont agree with changing it from Kerrville to SA. I would like to meet more of the SA crew, and i wish they wouldnt just drive home after the initial cruise, I hardly got to meet anyone besides you, Corn and his wife.

But I feel a little hostility towards me or the DFW crew because of what happened to your friend Z4, but if I recall some of the DFW Crew helped as well, probably not as much as you did because your a friend and know him on a more personal basis. Im sorry you didnt have fun, but if youd like to change some of the routes to make this years meet stand out i agree...
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Originally Posted by Grungepup
Actually I do remember some of the people at the table making comments about how big of idiot you were being... not to mention the drinking and driving you were doing prior to heading back to the hotel from Sonic.

Oh and trust me if it wasn't for the fact that I had a room there I would have headed back home after the Sonic meet. To be completely honest, I didn't have that much fun last year at all. A friends car got wrecked because everyone was rushing to catch up to the main group, and then most didn't really even care to see what happened to said driver. And you can't say it was just that event, because we had a similar incident happen to another 8 the year prior and if it wasn't for Corn staying back to help him limp his 8 back to Kerrville who knows how he would have made it back.... But yet at the same event we stopped the whole group for one non-8 driver to fix his exhaust. Sorry if I sound hostile but there is more to this event than just the DFW crew.... if you want to have your weekend in kerrville with just your crew that is fine, we do plenty of runs to the hill country ourselves. Maybe that is the problem, we know those roads so much that to us it is just another cruise. That is one of main reasons I suggested we suggested changing the route up a little bit, keep the 3 sisters but add other roads that can be just as fun. And to be honest, that time of the year could be better spent tubing down the guadalupe river than watching a kid make an *** of himself again. No offense.
the real problem there i think was lack of communication between cars. it should be mandatory that every driver have a functioning radio. We didnt find out that the turbo car had blown its engine until a while after. and the first group was so far ahead on the wet roads last year. Again, lack of communication. i think that thomas did an extremely good job keeping things in tact after what happened last year.

Which is why i think he needs to take charge of this. collaborate with a few people of his own choosing, (he's mature enough), from all major cities involved. get this organized his way and tell everyone else to sod off
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I am sorry if I am sounding hostile but you are making it sound like it was the best event ever when it wasn't.

I'm not saying anything bad about how the thing was organized, especially considering the weather did not want to cooperate at first. I will say that while there was some concern for Kevo shown, help was not offered, granted yes we know him better and we would have stayed no matter what. The one thing that did bother me was that the year prior when the Lexus was having problems with the exhaust, we had to stop the whole cruise to make sure he was able to make it back but yet when Kevo's accident, it was more like "is anyone hurt? no? ok well we have to get back to the cruise we have a schedule to keep". And as far as the turbo incident.... when we stopped for ice cream I made those in the lead aware of what had happened, but they didn't seem to concerned about going back to see if he was ok. When I got word from Corn that they were limping it back to kerrville, I was put at better ease. But when I started asking for others to go back with me to find the guy and make sure he was ok, all i got was "oh damn that sucks.... yeah I am not going back I am staying with the group".

Not trying to be negative or anything... I'm just telling it like it is.

And as far as the vote is going, I know we maybe have 7-8 active drivers that will make this event from SARX, so there has to be others that think SA will be a good venue, well that or people who aren't really active are voting and screwing up the results.
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Originally Posted by Grungepup
I am sorry if I am sounding hostile but you are making it sound like it was the best event ever when it wasn't.

I'm not saying anything bad about how the thing was organized, especially considering the weather did not want to cooperate at first. I will say that while there was some concern for Kevo shown, help was not offered, granted yes we know him better and we would have stayed no matter what. The one thing that did bother me was that the year prior when the Lexus was having problems with the exhaust, we had to stop the whole cruise to make sure he was able to make it back but yet when Kevo's accident, it was more like "is anyone hurt? no? ok well we have to get back to the cruise we have a schedule to keep". And as far as the turbo incident.... when we stopped for ice cream I made those in the lead aware of what had happened, but they didn't seem to concerned about going back to see if he was ok. When I got word from Corn that they were limping it back to kerrville, I was put at better ease. But when I started asking for others to go back with me to find the guy and make sure he was ok, all i got was "oh damn that sucks.... yeah I am not going back I am staying with the group".

Not trying to be negative or anything... I'm just telling it like it is.

And as far as the vote is going, I know we maybe have 7-8 active drivers that will make this event from SARX, so there has to be others that think SA will be a good venue, well that or people who aren't really active are voting and screwing up the results.

I agree with you on people not wanting to come help with Kevo, its hard for people to realize the impact of something like that unless you witness it. I am sorry for that and hopefully this year will be better.

As far as getting people to help its tough because they didnt see it happen, and I dont think people wanted to stop the whole event for him, I dont think he wouldnt want that to happen either, just to get help from some SA friends. I do agree with you if something like this happened to one of my friends it would leave a sore feeling/taste in my mouth as well but you have to understand this is just what people do. If i witnessed the wreck I would for sure of slammed on my brakes and made sure he was okay, but since most of the group for ahead by the time they realized it it was too late and they didnt want to call off the event as long as he was okay, and I dont think he would want that either. one thing I do know is we all felt horrible for him but we are all glad he got his car fixed and that he was okay.

AS far as 7-8 active SARX drivers that is a little under the DFW crew but some of the Crew DID vote either for SA or didnt care. DFW Crew normally has around 12-14 people so... But hopefully this year's event will go better to plan. I assume the DFW Crew will talk to Thomas soon enough and we will have something set it stone soon.

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Ok...I think we need to clear a few things up.

1) You guys are upset that more wasn't done to help people from SA when they had problems. I wasn't there the first time in October, so I don't know what happened there. But from the sounds of it, you are upset because the whole meet was stopped to wait on someone with a broken exhaust. Then, you go on to say you are upset because the whole meet wasn't stopped when an 8 broke down. What do you recommend should happen? You seem to be upset at both choices and I don't know what other options there are.

As far as Kevo's wreck, there's a few other things to look at. The wreck happened on a 2 lane, mountain side road, on a blind turn none the less. At this point, the safest thing to do is to make sure everyone is ok, which was done, and then clear the road. Having 10-15 cars parked on the side of the road to after it is determined he is not injured and the car is "drivable" is just asking for more trouble. I understand being frustrated because it seemed like we (the group up front) didn't care about the accident and didn't stop, but honestly, what could we have done to help the situation? Plus, we didn't find out about the accident until lunch, so you can't blame us for not stopping when we didn't even know about it.

This year, I think we need to specify up front our "policy" on how to handle cars in trouble. If they are by themselves...then someone should DEFINITELY go take care of them. But if there's 10 cars there, they don't all need to stop. Make sure the car is ok and being taken care of, and then those who would like to stay, can. And those who want to continue on should w/o feeling guilty for not staying.

2) Lots of people complained about the lack of communication and the fact that the lead group failed to stop in the morning like they said. I will not agrue that this didn't happen. What I will say is, we were stuck behind a large group of bickers for approx. 30 miles and they pulled off at the same spot we were supposed to stop at. Rather than wait for those behind to catch up (only to fall behind again), we decided to continue on and enjoy the open road. Is that selfish...maybe. But honestly, isn't the whole point of the Kerrville trip to drive the roads?

3) I hear a number of people talk about how there are a lot more things to do in SA than in Kerrville. Maybe so. But what are all the suggestions? Go to a restaurant/bar and hang out and talk. Is there no place like that in Kerrville? I know those of us who were there Friday night went to a cool little Mexican food place and there was plenty of parking. We could have gotten a bunch of 8's in there. Or, we could find a place along their main drag, and probably be the biggest thing in town that night. Then, you get to talk to others about why you love your car, which I KNOW we all love doing.

The other suggestions have been BBQ's at people's houses. Again, this could easily be done in Kerrville at the hotel, or cabins if that is what people decide to do. We didn't do this last year because the hotel offered us a pretty decent price for a prime-rib buffet. (I'm pretty sure most of us agree we won't be doing that again...wasn't all that great).

Look, no one is saying that last year was a raging success. There were things that went well and things that didn't. But you build on the good things and work on the bad. It doesn't mean scraping the whole plan and trying something completely different! I would suggest everyone offer suggestions on how to improve last years event...what went well, what didn't, and how you would fix it. All these problems we are talking about are going to happen again if we decide to change the entire event, including the location, the itinerary, the route, and everything in between.
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Agreed...
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Play Nice Boys and Girls!!!

OK....this has gotten way out of hand!!..Did we forget this was supposed to be fun!! This whole event is meant to be FUN and a chance for Texas 8 owners to get together and show off and talk about our cars and take a nice cruise!!!

Mike and I will be staying at whatever hotel is chosen whether in San Antonio or not..and we will always stop and help a friend in need because that how we roll dammit!!!!..LOL!!!

Yall argue more than a bunch of women!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Mikeschick01
OK....this has gotten way out of hand!!..Did we forget this was supposed to be fun!! This whole event is meant to be FUN and a chance for Texas 8 owners to get together and show off and talk about our cars and take a nice cruise!!!

Mike and I will be staying at whatever hotel is chosen whether in San Antonio or not..and we will always stop and help a friend in need because that how we roll dammit!!!!..LOL!!!

Yall argue more than a bunch of women!!!!!!!



First off thank you for posting this^

Second I just want to apologize...Thomas and I made a quick decision to put up a poll because there was a lot of interest for Kerrville and San Antonio, so we thougt this would be the best way to decide on the location and to make it so everyone would know that their opinion was heard. Well I had no idea that it would turn into something like it has...The absolute last thing that I want is for the DFW crew and SA crew to be against eachother, to me that is just stupid!... We started doing this event so that we could get as many RX8 enthusiasts in Texas together as possible so that we all could hangout for a weekend, talk about our hobby, enjoy eachothers company and have fun with the cars that we all love.

I know the previous years have not always ran smooth but I am hoping that every year that we do this it gets better and better as we build upon the previous year and hopefully we all get closer as a whole and not just closer with whichever city you are from because that is not the point of this event. This will all get figured out soon so that we can move on from this and get prepared for the event. Thanks.
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By the way I am glad to see that 34 people voted, hopefully that means we will have that many and more cars show up this year.

Also we do already have a few of the RX8 vendors on board as well as one of the DFW Mazda dealerships.....but more on that later!
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Yeah, no one here is butt hurt so don't worry about any animosity. I think most of us from SA will be there regardless of whether it is in SA or Kerrville. Events like this are hard to put together and it is hard to please everyone so just do what you do and get this thing organized.

If I break down I know my peeps have my back and if another 8 member breaks down then I am always down to get dirty and use my skills to fix what I can. I know I speak for the rest of the SA crowd when I say they would be happy to assist should their skills be needed.

This is an RX-8 event and I have encouraged the valley guys to show up so hopefully it will not just be a DFW/SA heavy event.

Whats up with the Houston peeps?
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Not really sure what is going on with the Houston guys....I have sent out a couple PM's but none of them are replying...It would be nice if Houston and Austin 8's would show up! We know they are out ther!
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Back in the day the Austin guys were way more active than the SA guys so I drove up there a few times.

I'm all about the drive, I could careless about the after party. If it's whack I'll head back to SA to Rbar for some crazy bitches in Hoss-05's absence.
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here here i second the motion for R-Bar and crazy bitches!!!!!
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Steve: Main reason they arent active here is because they have their own dedicated Houston 8 site I believe. May have to register in order to get word out....or maybe they are all emo kids and don't socialize with others
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Originally Posted by jiggawha1
Steve: Main reason they arent active here is because they have their own dedicated Houston 8 site I believe. May have to register in order to get word out....or maybe they are all emo kids and don't socialize with others
Haha well I guess I will go register on there and let the word out....


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