Status of Moderators
 

We've been seeing an increase in threads that are very redundant and some of them stay open and turn into flame fests. I think the moderators who are on here do an excellent job of monitoring these threads but I don't think they have enough support.

I post this not as a critique but maybe this has been overlooked by the powers that be.


Admins
We are fortunate that all 4 of our Admins are active and participating.


Super Mods
These are the guys who are doing most of the policing but we have two Super Mods who we do not often see.

• Abbid: Last post was 6/21/2010
• Polak: Last logged on 12-14-2010, last post 5/3/2010

Moderators
This is where I think we are seriously hurting

• Chrism - last post 5/29/2011 no posts in 4 months
• Gord96brg - Last log on 6-2-2011, last post 10/6/2006 almost 5 years since his last post
• Irish in a RX8 - last logon 5-2-2010, last post 8/15/2007 not login for over a year, last post 3+ years ago
• lurch519 - last logon 3-3-2011, last post 9/4/2009 over 2 years
• my10ae - last logon 1-8-2011, last post 2/5/2009 hasn't logged in YTD, last post almost 2.5 years ago
• syntrix - last post 6-14-11
• toadman - 9-24-2010, last post 3-14-2008 3+ years

of our 11 moderators only 2 of them are frequenting the board regularly and are actively contributing with posts.
Granted, some of these moderators might be performing tasks behind the scenes (thread clean up, archiving, deleting posts, etc) but based on log on and post dates, part of me seriously doubts that. :(

I want to tip my hat to those who are active for the great job they are doing, have done, and will continue to do. I am certain those mentioned above were once great contributors which is why they were elevated to that status but life events happen, people move on, and maybe it's time to reconsider their titles and give our current moderator staff a little bit more help by letting some of the newer folks help out.
Ash8 is a PERFECT example of this as he's new to the moderator ranks but is working his tail off to ensure the Series II subforum remains in order.


Again, I'm not trying to throw anyone under the bus, that is honestly the last thing I want anyone to take away from this. This is simply something I've noticed over the years and was hoping to share it with the Admins / Super Mods. I know you guys are busy, just trying to make your lives a little easier.

I agree 100%. More mod involvement on a regular basis would clean things up nicely. Besides, I need more supervision.

yeah, you SARX guys definitely need more supervision. :lol2:
Maybe I've just spent too many years in the corporate world but I'm a firm believer that every great organization must continuously evaluate itself and adjust accordingly to stay competitive, efficient, and profitable. In this case, I think things could be more efficient if this is given a fair evaluation.

At the end of the day this is a community in which we all feel a sense of ownership and take pride in how this site runs so if we can make the lives of our (super well paid ;) ) moderators a little easier then I'm all for it. Hopefully the Admins will find this suggestion relevant and act upon it.

^^^ +1

I've also been looking at those bold user names and wondering if it was time to change the pace.

Internet high-five to the Mods/Admin who frequent the boards!

for sure

I agree and wish to throw it out there

Jedi For Moderator!!!

The truth with you is, master Jedi :)

I want to be a moderator just of the wheel/tire section. I'll be amazing.

j, I was actually thinkin about just that!
You for tires
firebirdude for audio
Jedi for the Lounge :D:

Jedi for Mod!

Can I be the moderator for MM ?

I think Jedi has been around long enough :bigok: and is super active with the RX8club both on and off the forums:yesnod: JEDI for Moderator
Ex: SEVENSTOCK 14, Epic Sevenstock Socal Caravans, SB Meet, SoCal Dyno day, NorCal Mocc Meet, WHiV meet, other random meets.

I'd sign that petition!

If you do please, please, delete repeated quotes of pictures on the same page, and resize or link oversized pictures.

Why? So you can spout more trash and nonsense around here and get away with it?
Seriously - are you vying for Moon Assad status?

F-off. Really.

9K for Mod: I see him on here as often as anyone, he makes valuable contributions, and isn't a flame-thrower.

/\ was a joke man - knida like you .....

Indeed. Keep it up.

Jorge for president!

I think this thread is proof that we don't need more moderators....

On a more serious note, I agree with Jedi. I did notice that quite a few of the moderators had become inactive on the forums. I was actually discussing this a bit with another member recently. I think having a few more active moderators would really help with consistent moderation. We all know there is only so much moderators can manage on a regular basis. That said, it can seem a bit aggravating to see one thread/post moderated while another goes unnoticed or untouched. Even if it's not a bias, people tend to take it personally when something like that happens. More moderators could make for more consistent moderation. That would probably help things seem more "fair" and also make it known that certain things will not be accepted.

And yet we have two members, each fine on their own, bringing their ongoing brawl into this thread. If there were enough moderators they would have been put down.

Jedi - you've got guts for bringing this up. Reminds me about the time I griped about the crappy job my neighborhood home owners association's board of directors was doing. Turned out that was interpreted as volunteering to take a slot on the board.

Ken

So you are officially accusing the moderators of not doing their job?
At least two moderators have come into this thread and read it up to this point.

What you are suggesting and what Jedi are suggesting are two different things.

Come off that high-horse.

+1 :suspect:












:lol:

:dunno:

:rofl:
:evil_laug

Nope. The ones that are active do a great job, and are underappreciated. I just concur with Jedi that they're overloaded.

Neigh! ;)

Ken

LOL!!:p:

...what just happened?

What's the worst that can happen, they ban me?
oh wait, we've already been down that road once... :uhh: :fruit:
:dunno:

No...they can make you a moderator.

Ken

and you are very close to getting some.

then you might not understand what flames are:yesnod:

my in box isnt exactly filling up with reported posts. except for those ones about 9ks posts

isnt that what jedi was saying in the op?

Nowhere in my OP did I volunteer, that was not the purpose of this thread.
The reason for my post was to bring attention to an oversight that I felt had been allowed to pass for far too long.

Now, should the Admins feel that I can be a part of this solution then I would be open to having that conversation with them, I would consider the options, and make some form of decision.

you are correct about that list. we've been reluctant over the years to de-mod people and add more. we started to correct that with Ash. there are/were a couple otehr on the list and i have to say the mods have been asking for more help and the admins(including myself here) have been dragging our feet with adding more.


some of that is just life- elara had another child and has been busy on the homme front. i've had avery busy year outside of here also with home repairs/vacations and such( Jedi knows about that list i gave him in a message the other day)

The guys in bold i will probably never de-list - Abbid and Polak for contributions they made to the community, gordbrg for stuff behind the scenes as well as in public, Toadman because he was one of the ones that started the forum, was the admin that brought elara and i on board and did all of that while working for a certain company that will remain nameless.....

maybe we should give them some other title....

any way yeah we need more mods. we've been letting allot more stuff go then we used to because in general the forum works pretty well, notwithstanding MM and Brettus, and OD and MM , and etc

gonna have to do something with newbs. i've never really liked the implementation of the 7club but maybe we do need a newb forum so that they have aplace to start threads for a certain number of posts. Admins and mods(and regular members who request to and we trust) can handle the threads and decide to move them to the right place or answer them and give links to the right threads.

did i leave out the :p::rolleyes::yelrotflm:yelrotflm ??

probably need to rethink all of the stickies too. maybe we shoudl have a poll for each section and then only keep the ones that make the cut or something..

I can't tell if you're serious about 9k lol. I can't throw any stones at him because he's been a huge help to me and many other locals. That said, I definitely think he has contribute a fair amount of useful information and discussion to these forums, so he's doing quite a bit better than some other members I've seen here, though I wont go into that since that's not the point of this thread.

Unfortunately, I don't think there's an easy way to change the way people report posts. I really only bother reporting spam. I believe the point Jedi was going for, as you seem to have mentioned in your most recent post in the thread, is that we need more active members as moderators. At least that would increase the chances of a mod passing through a thread to clean it up or keep it on track a bit more often.

:flamed:

Just testing it out. ;)

I happy that some additional attention is being brought to various sections of the board. I admit I like to ruffle feathers from time to time but I also admit I get carried away and I am a bit more touchy about noobs lately so if I get reprimanded, I accept that.

I also spend a lot of time here and I see A LOT of stuff fly under the radar and I just think there needs to be a bit more regulation. But, I also have to remind myself that this board is not a democracy so what I think doesn't really mean jack. I have taken the hint, for now I will just leave the stupid redundant threads alone.

All of your ideas are good ideas Zoom.

"Contributor"

I agree they should be given another title that is worthy of their commitment and past contributions.
Something like, 'contributor' or 'supporter', would be nice.
Also, some of the newer folks might see the Moderator tag, PM them looking for help and be frustrated that they didn't get a response. By changing their title, you could avoid situations like that.



I'm not a huge fan of the way the 7club does things either. I remember making a bunch of rather random posts just so I could finally post in certain sections.

I think if we have more mods, they can monitor the noobs a bit more and merge / close threads that are super repetitive.
Maybe just restrict their ability to start a thread until they have 5 posts or more? :dunno:

Not a fan of this to be honest as leaving it up to voting could just complicate things. For the most part I think the majority of the sticky threads are still relevant.

Great ideas, Jedi. If this was my neighborhood, you'd be president of the homeowner's association by now. :)

For the inactive/retired moderators...why not "Moderator emeritus"?

Ken

Being a personal friend of his, I can assure you Polak isn't coming back :-)

His `09 M3 takes up far too much of his time.

While it hasn't been as much of a problem recently, I know that a decent amount of spam posts show up late at night as well as some of the more useless posts. I can think of a at least a couple recent threads that I would have loved to go through and clean up, including some of my own posts lol.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'd like to consider myself a decent forum member, in terms of proper searching, thread creating, posting etc. When I registered for 7club, I had already been a member here for a long while and I generally knew how to behave on a forum. That said, I ended up going around to find as many threads to post a comment in just so I could post what I wanted. I wouldn't say they were completely useless posts, but it was mostly "nice car" type posts. I think it may do some good, but it could also cause a lot of useless posts from any new members, including "good members".

Well, I know I report a bunch of SPAM posts from time to time and they usually take hours or days to disappear.
Useless/repetitive posts will happen, but there doesn't seem to be a mechanism in place to deal with that to begin with.
There sheer amount of sloth on the part of new members (and-not-so new members) is staggering, let alone the wheel re-inventing crowd.
And by re-inventing the wheel, I don't mean simply revisiting a subject.
I mean posting up theorems and speculation (often stating them as fact and without useful data) on subjects where there is already significant study and discussion elsewhere on the forum.
There are so many threads that cycle back to the beginning of an argument over and over again as if the new "contributors" hadn't actually read the thread before posting [sarcasm].

What a real moderator would do is understand the subject matter and edit the thread flows, but that is asking way too much for volunteers with no vested interest in a forum that is already collapsing under its own weight - both in content and, apparently, DB management.

cause most people dont know what emeritus means :lol:

Force Jedi into Admin prostitution. LOL