JeRKy 8 Owner

Im not always on a high speedconnection when I connect to this forum andsometimes have to resort to a 56k modem. I have noticedthat ever since the forum was changedand upgraded tothis new system --- everything takes muchlonger to load than before. I guessmost people dont notice sincemajority probably connect w/cable and dsl connections but forthose of us who also use regular dial up everythingis taking longer to load. I usedto open upmultiple posts all at thesame time and theyd all be loaded in about a minute. NowI nolonger open multiple windows atthe same time b/c it takesupwards of 3 minutes forall the posts to finally load ifI try to pull themall up at the same time. Even the page to do this-- make a newthread -- took much longerto load on my dial up connection than it ever didbefore the forum was upgraded.

I dontknow if theres anything youguys can do to tweak orspeed up the way everythingloads up but I just wanted to bringto your attention that contents on the forumtake much longer to load on dial up connections than they did before everything was changed.

loco4rx8

I've experienced the same thing. I don't notice it at work, but at home where I'm on dialup, it is very slow. It seems like it tries to load the whole page at once, rather than just bits and pieces, like it used to. Sometimes bits and pieces is better, cause at least you can start reading the stuff at the top of the page while you're waiting for the rest to load.

But this may just be the price of progress. ?

Kel Rx8

same here

cortc

What happened to the home button...

JeRKy 8 Owner

They have a newversion of the home button--you click on the rx8club picture at the top ofthepage.

Anywayit doesntlook like the slower loadup of pages on thisforum is going to be addressed anytime soon so I guess peoplethat use dialup from time totime --or all the time--will just have to suffer

mysql101

the html in the new forum takes up more space. e.g; the html source has more text and html in it because of the ALT tags (mouse overs that show the first few lines of a thread on the index page), and stuff like the pop out menus.

If not already done, it would greatly benifit from mod_gzip or zlib compressions (enabled in php), which would make the site about 6x smaller in size.

BOOSTD 7

gzip is already enabled ...

I've seriously talked to probably 50 people since the change, and have yet to hear anybody say anything other than it's WAY faster now. I'd like to be able to actually see it slow for somebody, then I might be able to figure out what the problem is.

mysql101

The site is definately faster in terms of database time, I think this person is speaking about the content size.

BOOSTD 7

Even that, gzip'd the pages are around 8-15K or so ... there are a couple more tiny little images per page, but total download per page is under 100K always.

loco4rx8

Just try it with a dialup connection. You'll see what we're talking about.

thew

its slower here .. has been since the change. *** cable here..

Sputnik

Then you haven't talked to anyone in the suggestions forums, or the people that chimed in with me in an earlier thread about the significant difference. I talked about this the day we switched over, none of you have come knocking on my door.

Tell me, does this gzip **** have to be downloaded? Like I was telling Omicron, I've worked with other web packages where you could download things like java-script files locally to your PC, which would significantly increase performance. The way this is acting, it seems like it is something along the lines of requiring something else to be downloaded (like the fact that the page waits until almost the end to show the page, instead of starting to show items as soon as the page opens). The increase caused by files like that won't show up when you look at the HTML code alone.

---jps

mysql101

gzip/zlib compression is transparent.

When your browser connects to a web server, it tells the server what content encoding it is able to receive. If it tells the server it can process compressed pages, the server will basically zip the html, then send over the compressed pages. This makes them much faster to load.

Virtually all web browsers can use gzip encoding, even text based lynx does it.

JeRKy 8 Owner

The computerw/the dial up connection that I have uses the old InternetExplorer 5 if thatmeans anything

thew

its still very slow. but at least its here.

Genesis

Painfully slow still....page not found, refresh, refresh, refresh required and I'm on broadband. Ok I'm in Singapore and this forum is served up in the US, but lots of content I surf from other forum's in the US are way faster.

Bottlenecks on serving pages over the net usually fall back on the database server. To the relevant person, run a diagnostic on the DB, perhaps check the DB model and optimize the joins via indexing. Doesn't matter how powerful the DB server is hardware wise, if the database model is flawed or not optimized then it slows right down.

The site is using PHP and MySQL for database calls....can see that from the URL. Most likely Apache on the web server. Check the audit logs in Tomcat...is there a high ratio of DB calls at over 80% cpu usage? Perhaps the web server caching needs to be optimized. Failing that, go back and re-program PHP.

You can own a Porsche, but if it's driven by my Grannie then it's still slow :D

mysql101

I can guarantee you it isn't the database.

1) The site was functional until two days ago.
2) The site operates on a widely used, commercially based php forum software. There are MUCH bigger forums out there who operate with higher traffic and no issue.
3) If it was a database issue, it wouldn't also stop images from loading, or only partial pages be displayed.

Speed-ER doc

I still haven't seen any comment from a moderator on this new problem.

Please help, I am going insane!!

Grabitquick

I have DSL at home and a dedicated T-line in the office, and it's SLOW to the point of being phlegmatic in both places over the last several days.

Doctor Bob

I am using cable modem and is definitely slower to load and go from one page to next page but I keep coming back because seems addicting looking at all the posts!

mysql101

I will sit here with a browser open for 30+ seconds without hanything happening.

I will then open a second browser with the same effect.

I open a third, and it loads instantly.

Given this simple test, and given that a page can load but images are broken, my bet is that max connections are not set high enough. Or that someone's opening a ton of socket connections to port 80 to use up available apache processes.

I had similar problems when my sites were on the front page of slashdot - too many connections, database, cpu were fine, but apache by default maxs out at 256 connects.

I suggest using netstat to list all connected hosts and see how long they've been idle. Additionally, I recommend lowering the timeout from the default (which I think is 300 secs), and recompiling apache with a higher max connection limit.

Hammer

I'm Connected With A Cable Modem, And It Has Been Extremely Slow. Several Times, I Get A Failed To Connect Error Message.....and There's Nothing Wrong Or Changed With My Pc Service, Either. Every Other Website I Go To Is Fine.....

flatso

It seems to be faster today.

robertdot

Okay. We are all aware of it. Unfortunately, all the moderators that can do anything about it are gone to SevenStock. So, I guess we'll all have to suffer through it until they get home.

Genesis

OK! Pick me up the new RB body kit and I'll forgive you Well, at least a rotary T-shirt anyway :p

Seems much faster now, 12 hours after my last post. Guess JasonHamiltion is right, it's not the DB, but a concurrent user setting in apache/tomcat on the web server.