Best Summer Tire Dont( Care About Price)
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Best Summer Tire Dont( Care About Price)
Looking to buy 19 inch high performance tires for summer only.dont really care about price but i want something that grips better when i take off . I Searched and found a few people mentioning the Toyo T1R if anyone has these what your take on them.
The best summer (read: no rain) performance tire is a racing slick. Somehow I don't see you putting those on.
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Last edited by PUR NRG; May 1, 2011 at 05:48 AM.
My recommendation:
- if you never face snow, and minimal rain
- if you don't care much about price (and thus,
logically, you don't care much about treadwear)
- performance is *truly* all you are after
...then go to tirerack.com and choose a "competition"
tire that fits (they are all DOT legal though - these ARE street tires not "racing slicks"). (Also there are some
brands I don't think tirerack has; e.g. toyo has good comp
tires too - T1R is not one of them, though, I don't think).
You might not have much choice in 19", but
anyway I wouldn't obsess about making the right
choice because any of them is likely to be in a different league than the noncompetition options. If you go
to tirerack, they'll probably give good advice in choosing
among the options.
On my (other) cars I've recently been runing yokohama
a032r, which I like a lot (though these don't come in 19's).
Last time around in my type-r I thought I'd try a more
civilised(*) tire and stepped outside the competition
category to bf goodrich comp ta kd. Not to imply these
are bad tires of their type at all - they have a great reputation - but, lets say, I'll never be doing that again!
(*) The big price you pay with the yokos is noise; really, really, loud and incessent. Treadware wasn't bad though
(for me, when used street only I always got >10K) and rain handling is adequate. Other comp tires have
different, but also serious, compromises.
- if you never face snow, and minimal rain
- if you don't care much about price (and thus,
logically, you don't care much about treadwear)
- performance is *truly* all you are after
...then go to tirerack.com and choose a "competition"
tire that fits (they are all DOT legal though - these ARE street tires not "racing slicks"). (Also there are some
brands I don't think tirerack has; e.g. toyo has good comp
tires too - T1R is not one of them, though, I don't think).
You might not have much choice in 19", but
anyway I wouldn't obsess about making the right
choice because any of them is likely to be in a different league than the noncompetition options. If you go
to tirerack, they'll probably give good advice in choosing
among the options.
On my (other) cars I've recently been runing yokohama
a032r, which I like a lot (though these don't come in 19's).
Last time around in my type-r I thought I'd try a more
civilised(*) tire and stepped outside the competition
category to bf goodrich comp ta kd. Not to imply these
are bad tires of their type at all - they have a great reputation - but, lets say, I'll never be doing that again!
(*) The big price you pay with the yokos is noise; really, really, loud and incessent. Treadware wasn't bad though
(for me, when used street only I always got >10K) and rain handling is adequate. Other comp tires have
different, but also serious, compromises.
Competition tires/R Compound tires will give you even better grip than the Max performance tires, but they have very little tread life (most have a treadwear rating of less than 100 (70/50, etc) & last about 5000 miles (the fact you got 10K miles is pretty impressive). Also if you are even in rain they will not give you very good traction at all (your experience notwithstanding). Tremendous traction. The Toyo competition tire is the RA-1. The Toyo T1S (and upcoming T1R) are considered in the Ultra High Performance/Max performance single season (summer) tire.
Fanman, yes, but that's kind of my point though.
5Kmiles and bad rain traction is really bad for *most*
people. Except if you _really_ don't care much about cost, and you _really_ don't care about rain handling, (both
as the original poster implied) people really shouldn't
overlook what the competition tires offer. All
regular street tires including "max/ultra performance"
are a *balanced* compromise between performance
and all sorts of other factors. Comp tires, to the
same extent, aren't. In my experience, we aren't
talking about a marginal improvement here even
relative to the "hot", top-dollar, regular tires.
I live in CA. I like to use smaller wheels (I just moved down
to 17" on my rx-8) where tire prices are lower. So I get
to use comp tires all year around at reasonable cost.
This is a real luxury - anyone else who can live with
the issues should, IMHO, consider the rather huge
advantages.
On A032R's I generally got rid of them about 10K because
the stick was going off; there was still "legal" tread.
This is when I never autoxed, etc. The one time I had
tirerack heat cycle them they seemed to perform (even)
better and even last longer too, though one subjective sample isn't really meaningful.
Sticky, low-tread tires, aren't necessarily bad in wet
weather. They are dangerous in puddles and hard rain
when they they aquaplane so much more easily. On
merely "wet" roads they can be just great. (The theory
I have read is that in such cases sticky tires can be _better_
than regular tires with complex tread patterns, or maybe
I've misunderstood, but on my experience I wouldn't
go quite so far as to agree with that. Nevertheless - standing
water aside - it's an oversimplification to assume comp tires
aren't usable or safe whenever it rains.)
-ajg
5Kmiles and bad rain traction is really bad for *most*
people. Except if you _really_ don't care much about cost, and you _really_ don't care about rain handling, (both
as the original poster implied) people really shouldn't
overlook what the competition tires offer. All
regular street tires including "max/ultra performance"
are a *balanced* compromise between performance
and all sorts of other factors. Comp tires, to the
same extent, aren't. In my experience, we aren't
talking about a marginal improvement here even
relative to the "hot", top-dollar, regular tires.
I live in CA. I like to use smaller wheels (I just moved down
to 17" on my rx-8) where tire prices are lower. So I get
to use comp tires all year around at reasonable cost.
This is a real luxury - anyone else who can live with
the issues should, IMHO, consider the rather huge
advantages.
On A032R's I generally got rid of them about 10K because
the stick was going off; there was still "legal" tread.
This is when I never autoxed, etc. The one time I had
tirerack heat cycle them they seemed to perform (even)
better and even last longer too, though one subjective sample isn't really meaningful.
Sticky, low-tread tires, aren't necessarily bad in wet
weather. They are dangerous in puddles and hard rain
when they they aquaplane so much more easily. On
merely "wet" roads they can be just great. (The theory
I have read is that in such cases sticky tires can be _better_
than regular tires with complex tread patterns, or maybe
I've misunderstood, but on my experience I wouldn't
go quite so far as to agree with that. Nevertheless - standing
water aside - it's an oversimplification to assume comp tires
aren't usable or safe whenever it rains.)
-ajg
Originally Posted by smrx8
i think iam going to go with the eagle tires
I decided on the PS2's, which are one of the most costly street tires.
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Originally Posted by rxeightr
I've heard they can be a tad noisy. They were on my short list until I read some of the owner's comments on Tire Rack.
I decided on the PS2's, which are one of the most costly street tires.
I decided on the PS2's, which are one of the most costly street tires.
What brand is that ???
I would choose the Michelin PS2 or the Bridgestone S03 Pole Position. I got mine replaced around December (2 under warranty due to flaws and bought the other pair) and had to go with Bridgestone due to it being a warranty issue. The SO3 Pole Position was my replacement and a DEFINITE improvement. The Tire Rack Rating is much higher too. I wanted the PS2 tires though.
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