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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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CF rear exhaust shrouds

anybody interested in CF rear exhaust shrouds like these to be made?


(credit to Thew at mazdaparts.com for this picture)

I understand they are already on the market and can be had for 350 + shipping... but thats abit too rich for my blood for 2 small pieces like that.

so if i get some support from you guys and that i see that there are enough interests for these i can get these made by Gemini (my local CF shop that did my CF hood search for keyword Gemini if you want to see pictures of their products) If you've heard about the famous VW/Audi tuner company HPA before....Gemini is the shop that does their fibreglass and CF parts for their famous R32 etc...

and i am pretty sure the price will be much lower than the ones already out on the market right now.....im guessing a figure around 250 or even possible lower.... and they can also be avaliable in colored kevlar CF to match your ride if you've got a blue,yellow, red 8 etc...

Your feedback is muchly appreciated.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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I'd definitely be interested.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Assuming a price of ~250 and production to be ~2-3 weeks:

1) BIU (normal CF) put me down
2) Keyek
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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How well does carbon fiber like this (I'm assuming we're talking about wet layup here) hold up to the heat of the exhaust tips? Any idea? Also...it seems that it might look odd having the carbon exhaust shrouds while still retaining the center black plastic stuff. I wonder if the center piece could also be done, and maybe replace that fake grill-like area with some real mesh. Are those front fender vent inserts still available (I think the same shop made those right?) This could get dangerously close to replacing all of the visible black plastic from the exterior. Which would be really kick ***...

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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 01:47 AM
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i like the idea of replacing the entire back piece along with the pieces around the exhaust. i got one of the hoods from them a while back and it is still the highlight of my car. i would definitely buy pieces for the back in the matching black with blue kevlar!

if you go to their site the blue 8 is mine. the fitment is perfect and i would back up their quality anytime!
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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im interested! since i will not be getting a body kit i would need something to compliment my factory appearance package and my carbon fiberhood...what kinda price are we talking about?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bureau13
How well does carbon fiber like this (I'm assuming we're talking about wet layup here) hold up to the heat of the exhaust tips? Any idea? Also...it seems that it might look odd having the carbon exhaust shrouds while still retaining the center black plastic stuff. I wonder if the center piece could also be done, and maybe replace that fake grill-like area with some real mesh. Are those front fender vent inserts still available (I think the same shop made those right?) This could get dangerously close to replacing all of the visible black plastic from the exterior. Which would be really kick ***...

jds
Yes the fender pieces are still avaliable.

contact marc at info@geminicomposites.com and tell him Vince sent ya
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:34 AM
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i understand how you guys are entertaining the idea of the whole rear piece being CF...

but also keep in mind if the ENTIRE rear piece is to be make in CF..

1) the price will be alot more than the two shrouds im talking about right now
2) it will be hard for me to search for an entire rear piece to make a mold out of
3) shipping will also be expensive


I, for one, think that with just the shrouds being made into CF will actuall make the rear end quite unique

so who are you are certainly interested? list your names down.

and if you are worried about their quality of work... dont be... just ask anyone here on this forum who has gotten Gemini's products.... anyone can vouch for their work!
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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Id be interested in a whole piece like Mr ED said, i personally like things to flow/match especialy when it comes to my cars.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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so are you guys saying if the whole rear piece was made.... there would be more ppl interested?

you would be expecting sth like 450 - 500 .... You guys sure?

For the shrouds piece if i can get a couple ppl commited and interested i can go ahead and get that started at Gemini but if the entire rear piece is to be made i figure there would be a need of some deposits to be put down first before anything could start....i think it would be too risky for Gemini if they were to produce a big and expensive piece like that without any actual commitment ( deposit )


and YES they can make the entire rear piece with the fake mesh part cut out and with real mesh put in.......... it would look awesome but i need to ask you guys once again....

WHO is actually ready to put down a deposit and is really wanting this piece? I dont want to have all these ppl say they want it and at the end noone getting it once Gemini is done with it.... I do not want that to happen because Marc at Gemini has been really nice with the RX-8 community and has been very open eared about new products...
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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I, for one, WILL buy right now if the whole rear black plastic piece is done in carbon fiber!!! I'll put my name #1 with a down payment if necessary. Just let me know.

I would want the rear rotary emblem to still be used as well. Possibilty?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by success07
I, for one, WILL buy right now if the whole rear black plastic piece is done in carbon fiber!!! I'll put my name #1 with a down payment if necessary. Just let me know.

I would want the rear rotary emblem to still be used as well. Possibilty?
Yes of course it can be done.

so right now you guys want an entire rear piece to be done which retains the use of the rear rotary emblem and with the fake mesh part cut out for real mesh.... right?

the price will be around 450-500 i figure.

for those ppl that are REALLY willing to put down a deposit and go ahead with this. List your names down and i figure if we can get 5 ppl interested we can get this rolling right away.

1. BIU
2. Success07
3.?
4.?
5.?
6.?

etc...

the quicker ppl fill up that list the quicker we can get this project started!
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Mr. ED? dmp?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Just to clarify - It's just the black plastic area that will be done in cf NOT the whole bumper right?

.....and yes with the real mesh - possibly an aluminun or something silver as opposed to black

....also it will be made so that it simply replaces the current pieces (i.e. clips, screws and such) and then we'll just apply are rear rotor emblems ourselves?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Just to clarify - It's just the black plastic area that will be done in cf NOT the whole bumper right?
Correct, only the black plastic piece we're talking about.

.....and yes with the real mesh - possibly an aluminun or something silver as opposed to black
A chioce of silver or black mesh could be given i envision.

....also it will be made so that it simply replaces the current pieces (i.e. clips, screws and such) and then we'll just apply are rear rotor emblems ourselves?
Yes all the attachment places will be OEM locations, not sure about the clips etc yet because this project is not a go as of yet so the exact specs are not known yet
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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im in on it...but the quality has..i mean "has" to be there..
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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You do realize that the lower black bumper fascia is part of the rear bumper itself...right? I see no way of replacing that section without leaving part of the old section there for attachement which means an overlay is necessary ... much like the MAZDASPEED.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Oh, crap. Of course you're right...well, it wouldn't have to be overlays, they could do it just like Mazdaspeed, but we're talking cutting apart the stock rear plastic to make it fit. Ugh.

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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Whats the point of buying these things in CF if they are already light?

Just a waste of money if you ask me.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Yeah like other ppl said if the quality and fitment is on the mark ill put a deposit down. And of course as long as the price isnt insane high.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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Diabolical - In this case it's strictly a matter of looks. A way to personalize your 8 a little bit.
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
im in on it...but the quality has..i mean "has" to be there..

you can talk to Mr.Ed or anyone that has gotten Gemini's CF hood. Their quality is top notch they can vouch for them.... hey if their products are good enough for HPA then its good enough for anyone
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by derwankel
You do realize that the lower black bumper fascia is part of the rear bumper itself...right? I see no way of replacing that section without leaving part of the old section there for attachement which means an overlay is necessary ... much like the MAZDASPEED.


AWWW crap ur right......... looks like this idea has gone down the drains quick..lol



so back to just the shrouds being made...

whos down?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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Rotary extreme has a cf piece that is just the bottom valence. Check it out on their website for details. It's just the ms rear valence in cf for $900. Quite steep if you ask me. So when this thread opened with the possibility of having the oem matched rear valence in cf for around $450 I thought, "Finally!" Exactly what I was looking for.

Pur Nrg has the rotary extreme cf piece on his 8 and after some modification he got it to work just fine. There has to be a way to get this piece done. The shrouds come off but the middle section does not, is that the problem were running into? How is it attached to the bumper? Glue, clips, screws or is it all just one piece?

Any further ideas on how we can get this piece made?
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by success07
Rotary extreme has a cf piece that is just the bottom valence. Check it out on their website for details. It's just the ms rear valence in cf for $900. Quite steep if you ask me. So when this thread opened with the possibility of having the oem matched rear valence in cf for around $450 I thought, "Finally!" Exactly what I was looking for.

Pur Nrg has the rotary extreme cf piece on his 8 and after some modification he got it to work just fine. There has to be a way to get this piece done. The shrouds come off but the middle section does not, is that the problem were running into? How is it attached to the bumper? Glue, clips, screws or is it all just one piece?

Any further ideas on how we can get this piece made?
the MS rear valence's fitment requires the cutting of half the middle section of the rear plastic piece.

I think the others have said that the middle section is a part of the rear bumper so it cant be taken off.

and lastly my figure of ~$450 is just an estimate from me, no official word from Gemini yet but at the most, give or take 100 which is still far from the 900 you've brought up
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