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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Series 2 Winter Wheel Talk

Hey so I figure the S1 guys have their own winter wheel thread so maybe we could use one as well. Anyone got pics of their S2 with winters on them? I actually just picked mine up today, which i will probably install a few weeks into november







MSW Type 14 rims (17x7) w/ Blizzak W70 tires (215/55)
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Dude we live in CT not Fargo lol. Those rims look sweet tho, are they hubcentric or should I say do they have adapter rings? I think I'm gonna forgo the rims and just slap a set of Alpin PA3s on the stock rims. I'm driving on clear roads 98% of the time..
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Dude we live in CT not Fargo lol. Those rims look sweet tho, are they hubcentric or should I say do they have adapter rings? I think I'm gonna forgo the rims and just slap a set of Alpin PA3s on the stock rims. I'm driving on clear roads 98% of the time..
HAHAHA i know but last yr i lived in downtown hartford and they didn't plow worth a damn (i swear to god) so I just cant risk anything. I work down in E.Hartford and their plowing sucks as well.

I am mostly highway and my family lives north of boston, so i gotta be prepared lolz. I believe they are hubcentric, thats actually a good question. Tire Rack said its compatable so hopefully.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Nice choice of tires. I just got blizzaks too for the upcoming winter. Im running those on G35 rims
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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I'm just worried about that 3" opening along the front of the car--thats just 4 inches off the ground-- that leads to the radiator come winter. That looks like trouble.
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Beefy98
I'm just worried about that 3" opening along the front of the car--thats just 4 inches off the ground-- that leads to the radiator come winter. That looks like trouble.
Our radiators sit pretty high, plus, if the snow is high enough that you are like plowing the road, you probably shouldn't really be driving anyway lol
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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Well I called the dolts at Tire Rack and the guy I spoke to said he's been working there 18 years and ALL aftermarket rims need hubcentric rims which is simply not true. I think the Elbrus cheapo rims I was looking at might need them and I don't want rings. I need a machined bore! Looks like I'll need more research. Are your MSWs hubcentric paimon?
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Old Nov 2, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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Well I called the dolts at Tire Rack and the guy I spoke to said he's been working there 18 years and ALL aftermarket rims need hubcentric rims which is simply not true. I think the Elbrus cheapo rims I was looking at might need them and I don't want rings. I need a machined bore! Looks like I'll need more research. Are your MSWs hubcentric paimon?
I will have to take a look, I hope so because it didn't come with any rings, and these guys "recommended" this package. If they arent hub centric i am making them come swap em out, theres no way I am driving around tires in my baby again lol
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 06:21 AM
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Here is what the back end of the wheels look like. I am new to wheels so maybe someone can tell me if I should be ok vs need the rings?

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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Yup u need the rings---and so do I I just got the same ones..


Well the Elbrus 102 rims I wanted aren't avail till the end of December so I went with MSW 14s, 17 X8 with 225/50 Pirelli 210 Sottozero Serie II tires. 1200 delivered. All of the rims the Rack carries now require hubcentric rims.
This did not used to be the case.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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Bah, you think if I call they can send them over free since they are required for the car?
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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btw apparantly there is going to be some "light snow" sunday. I was hoping to install my new wheels tomorrow to break em in for the winter
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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I don't have a picture of my S2 on my winters, but they are just stock S1 wheels.

You DO NOT need the rings to mount those wheels. I have run many a set of wheels without the centering rings, even using them on the track as well. The rings are just there to make installing the wheels a bit easier, but if you just methodically tighten the lugs in a star pattern, it will seat itself. And when you torque the lug nuts to spec, all of the vertical load is taken by the friction between the wheel and rub, not through the rings. The rings are often made of plastic and are non-structural. I am a mechanical engineer and design/analyze vehicles for a living.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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I don't have a picture of my S2 on my winters, but they are just stock S1 wheels.

You DO NOT need the rings to mount those wheels. I have run many a set of wheels without the centering rings, even using them on the track as well. The rings are just there to make installing the wheels a bit easier, but if you just methodically tighten the lugs in a star pattern, it will seat itself. And when you torque the lug nuts to spec, all of the vertical load is taken by the friction between the wheel and rub, not through the rings. The rings are often made of plastic and are non-structural. I am a mechanical engineer and design/analyze vehicles for a living.
O rly? I thought you couldn't properly center the wheels without the hubcentric rings. I mean the slightest misalignment will cause crazy vibrations. It isn't really about the transfer of load since the object in question sits within the load transfer points but moreso alignment.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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I just assumed u bought from the Rack. You didn't? I suppose u can buy them from them. Also, there is an ad at the top of the page justforwheels.com.


4 17x8 MSW Type 14 Silver In Stock $112.00 $448.00
4 Required centering ring In Stock N/CN/C
20 Required lugnut for vehicle (Nickel Plated) In Stock N/C N/C
4 225/50R-17 Pirelli Winter 210 Sottozero Serie II XL In Stock $149.00 $596.00
1 Pirelli Warranty Packe tIn Stock N/C N/C
1 Tire registration card -retail In Stock N/C N/C
4 Mount and Balance (No Charge) N/C N/C
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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i def got it from tire rack. Hold on let me check my invoice to see if they even have the rings listed. Maybe i am just blind and missed them in the box or something i dunno

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Interesting, it does list the 4 "required centering ring" ...

Hrmm, I will have to check again when i get home,
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Couldn't find then so I called tire rack and they are actually overnighting them for tomorrow! Awesome service
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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Sorry to ruin the we're special parade but S1/S2 are identical for any wheels and tires
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Sorry to ruin the we're special parade but S1/S2 are identical for any wheels and tires

Well its a good thing you have a bag over your head.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
Sorry to ruin the we're special parade but S1/S2 are identical for any wheels and tires
Man you always have something negative to say huh ... anyway, the point of this thread was mainly to show pics of the S2's with winters so people can see the options available to them.

Gotta choose what side of the fence you are ... the
"why do the S2 people post in the S1 forums" or
"why do the S2 people think that they have cars that are way different than S1"
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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**** I just remembered paimon we're gonna have to put a piece of tape over the TMPS light on the dash! Blast!
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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**** I just remembered paimon we're gonna have to put a piece of tape over the TMPS light on the dash! Blast!
yep oh well, that will just stay there to remind me to change my tires asap when the spring comes haha.
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sorry for the crummy quality
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Just got an inch of sleet!




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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Lol yup, glad i threw these on last night. Already got some use.
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