BAD GUY: 05renesis
10-02-2010, 09:57 AM
#1
BAD GUY: 05renesis
https://www.rx8club.com/members/05renesis-36070/
On August 22nd, 05renesis sent me a private message stating that he had a Greddy SP2 catback exhaust that he was willing to sell. I immediately told him that I was interested and asked him for pictures. On the 26th, he sent me these:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/photo3-1.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/photo2-1.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...rl/photo-1.jpg
Seemed legit, so I again told him that I was interested, however, I requested that he take better pictures and also have a piece of paper with his name next to the exhaust. The very next day, August 27th, he sent me better pictures with his name on a piece of paper.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2444.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2445.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2446.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2447.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2448.jpg
I noticed that he wrote his (probably) actual name instead of his username, but I assumed that he was just taking my words too literally. I was convinced that this was the real deal since there's no other reason for someone to write their name on a piece of paper unless requested to do so, so I told him I was ready to pay him.
Payment of $460 USD was sent on August 27th to (jcdied4u@earthlink.net), via Paypal. I had to wait about three days for the e-check to "clear", as he would not ship until it did. On September 2nd I received this message from renesis:
I did not hear from renesis for five days. I had already begun thinking that I had got myself into something sketchy, until he sent me this message on September 7th:
Okay! Feeling reassured, I excitedly waited for renesis to come home from work so I could receive my tracking number and picture of receipt.
I have not heard from 05renesis since.
His last login date was September 17th, so I'm sure he's seen my "Where's the tracking number" and "Can I see the receipt? Where's the exhaust" messages that I sent him following September 7th. I'm now convinced that he has scammed me.
I opened a dispute on Paypal on September 22nd. Before escalating the dispute to a Paypal claim, I gave 05renesis six days to respond. Of course, he didn't. On September 27th I escalated the dispute to a claim. I gave my side/information, and now, 05renesis was given 10 days to give his own (He currently has 6 days left).
How real is Paypal when it comes to this kind of stuff? They clearly stated that if the seller doesn't respond within the 10 days they are given, that I automatically win the claim and my funds are restored. Is this as true as it sounds? It seems like Paypal is the only way I'm going to get my money back, as I have no address or phone number given by 05renesis to handle this any other way.
On August 22nd, 05renesis sent me a private message stating that he had a Greddy SP2 catback exhaust that he was willing to sell. I immediately told him that I was interested and asked him for pictures. On the 26th, he sent me these:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/photo3-1.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/photo2-1.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...rl/photo-1.jpg
Seemed legit, so I again told him that I was interested, however, I requested that he take better pictures and also have a piece of paper with his name next to the exhaust. The very next day, August 27th, he sent me better pictures with his name on a piece of paper.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2444.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2445.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2446.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2447.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...l/100_2448.jpg
I noticed that he wrote his (probably) actual name instead of his username, but I assumed that he was just taking my words too literally. I was convinced that this was the real deal since there's no other reason for someone to write their name on a piece of paper unless requested to do so, so I told him I was ready to pay him.
Payment of $460 USD was sent on August 27th to (jcdied4u@earthlink.net), via Paypal. I had to wait about three days for the e-check to "clear", as he would not ship until it did. On September 2nd I received this message from renesis:
Originally Posted by 05renesis - September 2nd
hey i just saw that it cleared, i will ship it tomorrow if i get off work before 6 which i should but i'm not sure. if not it will be shipped for sure on saturday. and i will send you the confirmation number with a picture of the receipt as soon as i do. thanks again
Originally Posted by 05renesis - September 7th
The exhaust has been shipped. I shiped it this morning on my way to work. I will message you all the info on it when I get home from work.
I have not heard from 05renesis since.
His last login date was September 17th, so I'm sure he's seen my "Where's the tracking number" and "Can I see the receipt? Where's the exhaust" messages that I sent him following September 7th. I'm now convinced that he has scammed me.
I opened a dispute on Paypal on September 22nd. Before escalating the dispute to a Paypal claim, I gave 05renesis six days to respond. Of course, he didn't. On September 27th I escalated the dispute to a claim. I gave my side/information, and now, 05renesis was given 10 days to give his own (He currently has 6 days left).
How real is Paypal when it comes to this kind of stuff? They clearly stated that if the seller doesn't respond within the 10 days they are given, that I automatically win the claim and my funds are restored. Is this as true as it sounds? It seems like Paypal is the only way I'm going to get my money back, as I have no address or phone number given by 05renesis to handle this any other way.
Last edited by Grog; 10-02-2010 at 09:59 AM.
10-02-2010, 04:07 PM
#4
05renesis is probably lurking on another account. I hope you're reading this. How does it feel to have scammed a hard-working teenager out of his money? How pathetic do you have to be to stoop low enough to scam fellow RX-8 enthusiasts?
Last edited by Grog; 10-02-2010 at 06:27 PM.
10-02-2010, 05:07 PM
#5
I used PayPal with eBay... I've had a few problems with sellers and for me to receive full refund, I'd have to ship the item the Texas (claims bldg for eBay, I presume). It may take a little longer for the money to appear in your account, but there is a good chance that you will get it back.
10-02-2010, 06:14 PM
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Try to build up some info here for ya Grog.
I just found this by doing a search on threads started by "username".
"I currently work at Fast4wheels in Garland Texas as their main tech". That was posted back in January of this year, so he might still be there???? They also have a website, I checked and no real useful info though, but it still might help.
I just found this by doing a search on threads started by "username".
"I currently work at Fast4wheels in Garland Texas as their main tech". That was posted back in January of this year, so he might still be there???? They also have a website, I checked and no real useful info though, but it still might help.
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10-02-2010, 07:03 PM
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Paypal 110% always will support the buyer!
If you say you didnt get your item and he cant provide them with tracking info to prove otherwise then he loses and you get your money back. Dont worry, if he doesnt respond you will definetly get your cash back.
I dont understand why people like him scam others especially with paypal. They dont ever win...
Idk maybe he thinks because he transferred the money to his bank account they cant get it back but its going to come right out of his account
Im sorry this happened to you man..
If you say you didnt get your item and he cant provide them with tracking info to prove otherwise then he loses and you get your money back. Dont worry, if he doesnt respond you will definetly get your cash back.
I dont understand why people like him scam others especially with paypal. They dont ever win...
Idk maybe he thinks because he transferred the money to his bank account they cant get it back but its going to come right out of his account
Im sorry this happened to you man..
10-02-2010, 07:13 PM
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Try to build up some info here for ya Grog.
I just found this by doing a search on threads started by "username".
"I currently work at Fast4wheels in Garland Texas as their main tech". That was posted back in January of this year, so he might still be there???? They also have a website, I checked and no real useful info though, but it still might help.
I just found this by doing a search on threads started by "username".
"I currently work at Fast4wheels in Garland Texas as their main tech". That was posted back in January of this year, so he might still be there???? They also have a website, I checked and no real useful info though, but it still might help.
I'm really hoping they don't respond with a "never heard of him, sorry we can't help you". I dunno how easily small companies like these give out information, but if they gave me a number that I could reach him at, then I'd be able to put him on the spot. We'll see.
10-02-2010, 08:10 PM
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This is definitely going to get me somewhere. I checked out Fast4wheels' website and I'm going to try contacting them on Monday. I'll try using the name that was on the piece of paper in the photos (Jose Caruso, iirc), and if it turns out they don't recognize the name, I'll try referring to him as "The guy with the black RX-8", since that's what 05renesis' profile picture shows.
I'm really hoping they don't respond with a "never heard of him, sorry we can't help you". I dunno how easily small companies like these give out information, but if they gave me a number that I could reach him at, then I'd be able to put him on the spot. We'll see.
I'm really hoping they don't respond with a "never heard of him, sorry we can't help you". I dunno how easily small companies like these give out information, but if they gave me a number that I could reach him at, then I'd be able to put him on the spot. We'll see.
Yeah, I was gonna mention the black RX to you, but figured you had already seen at least that much. Good luck! I hate when people do this ****!
Last edited by Mazurfer; 10-03-2010 at 08:50 AM.
10-02-2010, 08:26 PM
#10
Didn't think we'd get this far this fast, but check it out, guys:
Jose A. Carrasco
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...299987&ref=sgm
Elizabeth Miranda (Girlfriend?)
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.p...126&ref=search
What the **** do I do? This is as close as I'm going to get to contacting him directly. How should I handle this? I have a Facebook, but my Paypal email contains my first and last name, so he would know that it's me.
Thanks SO MUCH to cdleo71 for digging this info up!
Jose A. Carrasco
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...299987&ref=sgm
Elizabeth Miranda (Girlfriend?)
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.p...126&ref=search
What the **** do I do? This is as close as I'm going to get to contacting him directly. How should I handle this? I have a Facebook, but my Paypal email contains my first and last name, so he would know that it's me.
Thanks SO MUCH to cdleo71 for digging this info up!
10-03-2010, 10:03 AM
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Not true, I got reimbursed on a claim from a t shirt scammer on this board that I did not get through ebay. Go to the NTXrotary lounge and ask the Dallas guy to help you out. If I was in Dallas I would go pay him a visit for you.
10-05-2010, 05:36 AM
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Hopefully it won't get to that level and Paypal will just give me my money...
10-05-2010, 02:49 PM
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the problem with paypal is if hes smart enough to send you a 20 lb weight inside a package with a tracking number youre fucked unless you see the ups guy deliver it and you can deny shipment from him.
so if he doesnt do that you should get your money back regardless of whether or not he spent the money. if he spent it already his account will go negative and collections will come after him
so if he doesnt do that you should get your money back regardless of whether or not he spent the money. if he spent it already his account will go negative and collections will come after him
