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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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I want to dump my water pump.

I see all types of cooling mods, under drive pulleys, Mazmart replacement water pumps.

I want to throw away my water pump.

Yes, I want a plate to replace my pump, and use a remote electric pump.

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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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Knock yourself out.

Its not like your alternator is doing anything important, anyway.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Knock yourself out.

Its not like your alternator is doing anything important, anyway.
That's it!
Eureka, The electric alternator too.....


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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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I have a 40 GPH pump in mine...still in the testing phase...mounts up sweet...and looks cool....
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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You don't need the water pump to operate the alternator. Since the belt adjustment is on the alternator all you need is a new belt with the appropriate circumference/length.

I was wondering what the appropriate sizing/flow rate might be relative to radiator capacity/fluid dwell time?
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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I think that an electric water pump would resolve the whole cavitation at high RPM thing.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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We will see.......It pumps a lot of water...... Still testing the temp stuff though so no comments yet

BTW...so I don't forget later..the belt length would be a 300 series...or 30" belt

Anyone know where to get a 5 rib 30" belt I have a 4 rib Gates belt on now...but they don't make a 300 belt in the 5 rib style...

It has much more wrap without the water pump pulley...so I don't think there will be a problem with it slipping
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
You don't need the water pump to operate the alternator.
lol

But how about the other way around?

I wasn't talking about the belt.

I was talking about the 8 amps it pulls from an alternator that already gets up to 280°F from the load it is under in normal operation.

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I think that an electric water pump would resolve the whole cavitation at high RPM thing.
What makes you think there is a high RPM cavitation issue? Data?
Do you know how many GPM the OE pump flows across the RPM band?

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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
lol

But how about the other way around?

I wasn't talking about the belt.

I was talking about the 8 amps it pulls from an alternator that already gets up to 280°F from the load it is under in normal operation.

What makes you think there is a high RPM cavitation issue? Data?
Do you know how many GPM the OE pump flows across the RPM band?
nice edit

It's not a cavitation issue per se, there are a number of reasons for doing it

try reading the other responses too, somebody has to start somewhere and more than one person already is

don't you have customer's asking silly questions to attend to instead?
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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BTW - I'm not totally knocking this idea, I just want to understand what data you are basing your assessment on.
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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
nice edit
What edit? Read what I posted more carefully.

I wasn't talking about disconnecting the alternator, I was talking about the fact that it is already overtaxed.

I guess my post wasn't dripping with enough sarcasm.

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don't you have customer's asking silly questions to attend to instead?
No. I have enough time to deal with all the silly questions - even this one.

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Old Oct 11, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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oh, I though you were only making assumptions, including the one about everybody being able to read your mind based on a subliminal comment

ps: hope this amount of sarcasm meets your needs
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No. I have enough time to deal with all the silly questions - even this one.
How about answering mine:-) E-mailed and PM'd.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by N8theGr8
How about answering mine:-) E-mailed and PM'd.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by N8theGr8
How about answering mine:-) E-mailed and PM'd.
Uh, who are you? You do realize its Sunday, right?

I'll get to my regular e-mail tomorrow.

I don't answer PMs.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:06 AM
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Pump draws 4A......even less running

No stupid stereo or anything else drawing a lot of current.....should be OK
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Uh, who are you? You do realize its Sunday, right?

I'll get to my regular e-mail tomorrow.

Isn't tomorrow a holiday Sounds like a Tuesday thing now
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:10 AM
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columbus day.. the day we celebrate a man who found a country..... that was already inhabited... and he didnt find it, he found some tiny islands off it's coast... well, he stubled across them and decided that since he had some flags from spain with him that he could claim them.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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Its our Thanksgiving Day Holiday in Canada
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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did you guys get a chance to kill native americans with blankets swarming with small pox too?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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The ones we didn't poison with booze and cheat with worthless trinkets
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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go man---i talked about this over 2 yrs ago and i called Merize(spelling) and others about it.
The concept seems taylored made for us. Just think of the increased cooling at low rpm's and stop and go traffic. Since the ewp can provide CONSTANT speed of circulation (a 2 speed pump can be done) ---it just makes sense. Besides stopping a 5-7 hp parasitic drain aint bad.
You can also program a ewp to continue to run after you switch the car off for a set amount of time.
Remember years ago we never though we would have electric power steering either!
Now I was never able to get a firm figue of the flow rate that was needed for our cars. I did logically think that if they could cool a high hp v/8 then it should be ok for us. But???
And on a side note --if you ever need to pump you basement out---taadaa!
Like to be in on this with ya.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Doing it right requires manifolding the pump outlet directly into the irons, but that's a tale for another day ....
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Uh, who are you? You do realize its Sunday, right?

I'll get to my regular e-mail tomorrow.

I don't answer PMs.


I sent you an e-mail on the 8th regarding your website. No worries at all I thought maybe it might've been spam filtered or something since its not an address you recognize. Its signed with my name and my handle on here.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Dan remount the alternator down where the a/c used to be---you dont need that anyway do ya?
I have been thinking about that but I have other stuff going on---my poly motormounts are working pretty good now.
True what MM said --the dang thing gets HOT--i have melted the edge off the belt before.
I think our 5 rib gaterback belt is 31inches long?
What temps things are you seeing?
OD
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