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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Problem with my 8

My car won't start.
This is about the 4th time this happened.
Im getting a very loud click every time I try to start the car. I don't think my engine is flooded and I don't think its my spark plugs because I changed them after the 2nd incident.
The 3rd incident happened a week and a half later. I called Mazda and they told me it could be my battery and there was no reason to have it towed to them. It wasn't the battery. My engine was flooded.
I've searched and narrowed it down to my battery, starter, or ignition but im still keeping an open mind to it being flooded. I don't see how it could be flooded though, because the car was warm when I turned it off last night.

My 8 is a 2004 AT with 83,000+ miles on it. The only mod is a K&N Typhoon intake.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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I am hoping the KN v2 intake
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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if you hear clicks then its your battery...
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Did you change battery at all? Also clean your throttle body. After so many year and 80k+ miles the something is bound to give. I would take the battery out have an autozone or your local automart test the battery for you. Another possibility is that your alternator may be having problem as well.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mzrx
Did you change battery at all? Also clean your throttle body. After so many year and 80k+ miles the something is bound to give. I would take the battery out have an autozone or your local automart test the battery for you. Another possibility is that your alternator may be having problem as well.
I haven't changed the battery since I got the car. I didn't really believe it could be the battery because the lights on the car would come on.
I must be a pretty bad owner to let something like this slip past me.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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The amount of power needed for lights is a lot less than that to start the car
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Update

Well, I got my car started this morning without a jump start but I had a CEL. I took it over to Mazda and after awhile the guy came out telling me that I had 2 codes, one for my ignition coils and another for my valve air inlet.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Well, im having the same no start problem again, except this time the car shut off without warning when I pulled up to my friends house. My 8 was at Mazda 3 days earlier for the same no start problem. I completely stumped on what it could be. I thought it was the battery since that was mentioned earlier in the thread but when I tried to do a jump start nothing happened, there was just a loud click. Could anyone offer some insight as to what the cause of my problem is?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Replace your coil packs and clean your throttle body.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Renesis SE3P
Replace your coil packs and clean your throttle body.
the coils were changed
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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^As he said. And did you get your battery and alternator tested yet?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx
^As he said. And did you get your battery and alternator tested yet?
Yes, they were tested. I was told they wer fine.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Now the question is, did they test them correctly? i.e. under load
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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Your car shut off on its own? You've replaced coils, battery is fine, not flooded.. Have you checked your cat? Is your car running normally or does it bog alot? Maybe clean the MAF/TB? If all checks out may want to get a compression test..
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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^ I wouldn't know.

Im kind of afraid to take it back to Mazda for this same problem since it seems that the problem isn't being fixed. I think im gonna do what was said earlier and clean the throttle body.
I have a question could the starter have something to do with it?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Since you are hearing clicking and the engine is not turning over, then that has nothing to do with your starter.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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And you also said it shuts off on its own. the starter is only activated when you initially start your car. then it goes into hibernation until you go to start it again
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tubingchamp
Your car shut off on its own? You've replaced coils, battery is fine, not flooded.. Have you checked your cat? Is your car running normally or does it bog alot? Maybe clean the MAF/TB? If all checks out may want to get a compression test..
The car doesnt bog as far as I could tell when I was driving. If its my cat I was going to replace that with a catless midpipe, but that doesn't explain the no start.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Actually it would. If your cat is clogged up with shyte, then your engine cannot breathe, therefore will not start and will shut off randomly.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:32 PM
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^ ohhh okay then. Well is a clogged cat under warranty or would I have to be spending a bunch of money to have it replaced.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Not at 83,000 miles. 80,000 miles is the federally mandated warranty period. Not sure how much it is out of pocket.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:39 PM
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So, would it be a better idea to go with a catless midpipe?
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Depends on what 'better' is for you. A catless midpipe gives you more power, some say slightly better gas mileage, but depending on the pipe, it can make the 8 raspy and too loud, and can give you problems passing emissions, unless you have a way to block the CEL (like MM's AccessPORT)
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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OEM cats are pricey, so if plan on going midpipe in the future, you might as well do it now.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Depends on what 'better' is for you. A catless midpipe gives you more power, some say slightly better gas mileage, but depending on the pipe, it can make the 8 raspy and too loud, and can give you problems passing emissions, unless you have a way to block the CEL (like MM's AccessPORT)
Im not concerned about the raspy sound or it being too loud. The Accessport is on my list of things to get.

Originally Posted by xun4gvn4everx
OEM cats are pricey, so if plan on going midpipe in the future, you might as well do it now.
Sounds like a plan...

I just remembered that the CEL came on while I was driving right before I pulled up to my friends house.
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