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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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No more flames?

Hey guys, my car is a 2005, I have the mods listed below in my car

up until about a week ago, my car would be shooting flames (I have midpipe) if I WOT it and shift at about 8.5-9k RPM

however, in the past week, no matter how hard I drive her, my car doesn't shoot flames NA anymore, if I use nitrous, then she does but NA, she doesn't even have that "POP" sound anymore

A/F is about 14.4-15 NA WOT

is this normal? is it safe?

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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in closed loop, 14 is standard. In open loop, you usually see stuff in the 10 and 11's. So WOT at 14 sounds lean.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Reset your Ecu.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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Probably just the weather cooling down
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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its about 15-17 degrees celcius over here

I already did, still doesn't shoot flames........

should I be worried?
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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it shouldnt shoot flames when lean
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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sorry, I got the AF numbers wrong

its about 13.2-13.6

is that still lean?

I will reset the ECU again tonight
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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is that at WOT?
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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yes, at WOT, you can see it in my dyno
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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its still not rich, as long as its not something like 15 or 16 your good
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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ok, I resetted my ecu again and gone on a 5 minute warming (6k-9k rpm) the entire time, it makes that bubbly sound, still no pop though

but, my car is fine other wise, nothing bad, dynoed pretty strong and everything, wierd I think I'll just add 1 size jet to my nitrous just to be on the safe side
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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13's are fine for WOT. you would want cruise or idle to be stoich
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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flames/backfire is dependent on exhaust system temp(and AFR), try revving it in place at high rpms.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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^ I tried

I tried everything, it just doesn't shoot flames anymore, I don't really care about the shooting flames, I am just worried it might point to my system running too lean etc etc
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Is that 13:1 with the nitrous spraying?
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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no, thats NA

with nitrous its at 10-10.7 and it does shoot flames with nitrous

but without, nada T.T
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