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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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radiators, radiator, radiators

as requested Here is a start for the Radiators thread. I will clean it up, perdy it up, and add more info soon.
please feel free to add info, or pictures if you have it.


Mazda OEM $379
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...04&catalogid=1

BHR - $$550/MT and $650/AT (RX8Club.com Forum Vendor! and the only place that makes a Rad for the Auto!) (Charles R. Hill)
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/black-halo-racings-product-line-146611/

RE-medy - $525 (RX8Club.com Forum Vendor!) (MazMart)
http://www.mazmart.com/ or see Post 75 of this thread ( https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...6&postcount=75 ) for more details

Koyo: $330
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/koyorx8.htm

PWR: $479
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/p...031ecbb6df0a3e

Silla: $207 (this seems like just a 'premium' stock replacement)
http://www.car-stuff.com/mmparts/maz.../radiator.html

ARW $559
http://www.awrracing.com/store/produ...products_id=68

Knight Sport $???
http://japanparts.com/db/partslist.p...maker=&volkey=

Greddy $893
http://www.advancespeedshop.com/gred...03-p-3844.html

Mishimoto $320
http://www.mishimoto.com/mishimoto-u...-radiator.html












Cooling Fans:
http://www.mishimoto.com/cooling-accessories.html

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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AWR: $558.95
http://www.awrracing.com/store/produ...products_id=68

this is the same radiator mazda motorsports sells to racers, but AWR's price is better.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Mazda OEM, $379.80 for MT, $415.90 for AT:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...04&catalogid=1
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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ok, Good idea!
Question, what would be the benifits Of swapping out rads?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Skiptomylue
ok, Good idea!
Question, what would be the benifits Of swapping out rads?
If you are autocrossing, racing/etc. it will keep your water temperatures down, longer. Also, these days if you are driving in extreme temperatures, for long periods of time, hard then it will keep your temps down.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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How about us daily drivers? I figured it would be good for me here in Georgia with 90+ degree weather for weeks now.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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I got the koyo radiator and it just fit with like 2mm of clearance. It is awesome for the price.
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Old Aug 5, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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theres a mazdaspeed radiator and r magic radiators, not sure if it's worth looking into especially for double the price...

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http://japanparts.com/db/partslist.p...maker=&volkey=
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Are the stock radiators brass or aluminum?
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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How many degrees can an aftermarket radiator lower the water temperature? 5°C? more? less? I have a keen interest, but I don't know the real gain in temperature.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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wouldnt getting a Cooler Thermostat do the same thing?kick the fans on at an earlier time be just as benificial?
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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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It will not lower the temp much. Its just going hold your Coolant temp. at a stable level Longer than stock Radiators.

a Must for people who "SC/Turbo/autoX/Race/drive HARD on streets with hot temp"

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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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I have fitted a PWR radiator to ny RX-8. Nice quality but the mechanic said he had major problems with the mounting brackets. It appears that they do not match the stock radiators brackets. The mechanic had to make extra bracketing to fit the PWR radiator. I dont know if this is because euro zone cars differ to those in USA?
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Exclamation And how to get extra cooling for the oil

Dear sirs,

We easily find aftermarket radiators to cool the engine coolant (water+glycol or any other antifreezer. Let´s call that just water). Some examples are shown within this thread.

Now, if you get more engine power you need extra water heat rejection (i.e bigger water radiator) AND also extra oil heat rejection. Probably in the same proportion if not more.

Therefore this thread would be comprehensive if aftermarket oil heat radiators are added to upgrade the stock ones (some models are equipped with one whereas some others with two BTW).

Anyone knows of any oil rad?

Cheers

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Note: It is sad to realise the complete lack of thermal data on aftermarket radiators, such us heat rejection, max air temp, water outlet temp, etc. It is pure marketing to quote a radiator as "racing radiator" because how better is that?

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by O'Renesis
I have fitted a PWR radiator to ny RX-8. Nice quality but the mechanic said he had major problems with the mounting brackets. It appears that they do not match the stock radiators brackets. The mechanic had to make extra bracketing to fit the PWR radiator. I dont know if this is because euro zone cars differ to those in USA?
Pretty sure this is the same stateside also. The top brackets don't line-up, as I recall.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Thats why people like Koyo better.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Thats why people like Koyo better.
Now you tell me , hope somebody from PWR reads this. Don't know why they can't get the mounting brackets right. The PWR is a lot more expensive than the Koyo, so no excuses
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jird20
Dear sirs,

We easily find aftermarket radiators to cool the engine coolant (water+glycol or any other antifreezer. Let´s call that just water). Some examples are shown within this thread.

Now, if you get more engine power you need extra water heat rejection (i.e bigger water radiator) AND also extra oil heat rejection. Probably in the same proportion if not more.

Therefore this thread would be comprehensive if aftermarket oil heat radiators are added to upgrade the stock ones (some models are equipped with one whereas some others with two BTW).

Anyone knows of any oil rad?

Cheers

jird20

Note: It is sad to realise the complete lack of thermal data on aftermarket radiators, such us heat rejection, max air temp, water outlet temp, etc. It is pure marketing to quote a radiator as "racing radiator" because how better is that?
You might want to look here (http://www.fluidyne.com/) for potential oil coolers.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Also go with underdrive pulleys. Above 7,000 rpm, the water pump starts cavitating and doesn't push as much coolant through the system. The underdrive pulleys correct that.
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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^really i haven't heard of that..but i haven't really been checkign out the forum as of late...guess i have a lot of reading to do
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 05:57 AM
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Thats why people like Koyo better.
How much in terms of size/ rows is koyo over stock? more surface area?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:08 AM
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^really i haven't heard of that..but i haven't really been checkign out the forum as of late...guess i have a lot of reading to do
Yup... from the Mazda Motorsports site:

Pulleys
Changing to competition drive and water pump pulleys will significantly reduce, if not eliminate, water pump cavitation. Water pump cavitation on a rotary engine (with stock pulleys) is unavoidable at rpms above 6500-7000 and is a significant contributor to engine overheating. Cavitation is defined as a disruption of the water/coolant flow through the water pump. It is created when the water pump impeller spins at such a high speed that it is actually churning instead of pushing the coolant through the pump. Changing to a larger water pump pulley and a smaller drive pulley, allows the water pump to spin at lower rpms, effectively transporting the fluid through the pump.
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Tech?storeId=10001&subject=cooling
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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holy crap! Wow I thought getting the underdrive pulley was just to look for some small gains... You guys are saying that it allows the water pump to run better at higher rpms?

Why didn't Mazda do this from the start?
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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holy crap! Wow I thought getting the underdrive pulley was just to look for some small gains... You guys are saying that it allows the water pump to run better at higher rpms?

Why didn't Mazda do this from the start?
Probably because of all the A/C complaints.

It is pretty warm while at idle w/ the pulley, while moving its frosty and delicious.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Keef
holy crap! Wow I thought getting the underdrive pulley was just to look for some small gains... You guys are saying that it allows the water pump to run better at higher rpms?

Why didn't Mazda do this from the start?
Thats because most owners will spend most of their car's life under 7000 rpm.
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