SERIES 2 RX-8s Now in TAKATA Air Bag RECALL
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ALL Series 2 RX-8's worldwide will be recalled for TAKATA Air Bag INFLATOR Module replacement.
RECALL FOR S2 IS ONLY FOR PASSENGER SIDE AB INFLATOR. "new" MAZDA RECALL INFORMATION CENTRE Mazda Recall Information Center - South Bay Mazda JULY 2016 HERE IS THE PART NUMBER FOR PASSENGER INFLATOR ONLY ON ALL S2s AND SAME P/n LEFT AND RIGHT HAND DRIVE. P/n F1Z1-57-K80 REMEMBER DRIVERS SIDE STEERING WHEEL AB INFLATOR IS NOT UNDER RECALL FOR ALL S2s AS IT IS NOT MADE BY TAKATA. FAQ Pdf \/ :shocking: |
More to follow as it becomes available.
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Thanks for the info
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With luck they will replace the dash cover as well, as they get the H-shaped cracks after ~4 years. Hoping it is now only available assembled with the dash, kind of like how we can no longer buy the coolant bottle without the cap...
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I just hope they don't screw anything up when they replace them, mine sits in the garage when not driven, so my dash is crack free
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Originally Posted by boricua13
(Post 4764225)
I just hope they don't screw anything up when they replace them, mine sits in the garage when not driven, so my dash is crack free
I second that. Im a bit nervous about the dealership messing around with my RX. |
Originally Posted by Lane03
(Post 4764208)
With luck they will replace the dash cover as well, as they get the H-shaped cracks after ~4 years. Hoping it is now only available assembled with the dash, kind of like how we can no longer buy the coolant bottle without the cap...
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I can tell you now you will not get a new passenger AB dash cover, it is not part of recall, the inflator behind the cover is..
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Latest News..
For USA... the new Recall will be 9416E, for 2004-2011 RX-8. The expansion applies to Takata ammonia nitrate-based propellant front air bag inflator without a chemical drying agent, also known as a desiccant. For Mazda vehicles, this applies only to passenger frontal air bag inflators in certain models and model years, Side Curtain, In Seat and Seat belt Pre-tensioner inflators are not made or supplied by Takata. As usual MNAO never thinks this through and has said nothing yet if this recall applied to Drivers Side Inflator as of now the talk is only about Passenger side. • 2004-2006 MPV • 2004-2011 RX-8 • 2003-2011 Mazda6 • 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6 • 2007-2011 CX-7 • 2007-2011 CX-9 There are limited stocks from July 2016... Owners will be notified when to contact Mazda Dealer.. |
FAQ (Pdf) added in post #1.
Edit: You will not receive a new AB cover on passenger side of dash if it is cracked, inflator is securely mounted behind this (obviously) and is not effected by a seam crack in the dashboard skin. |
Just went to Mazda with my 09 R3. They ran the VIN and said there's no recall in the system yet. This is up in Canada though...
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I just called and sheduled the appt to get it fixed with no issues from the dealer.
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Confirmed Today that Australian/NZ Series 2's and an update for Series 1's, as of July 12th, 2016.
ADR VINS: RX-8 JM0FE103100100007 - JM0FE103100105664 JM0FE1032*0300005 - JM0FE1032*0301278 |
As a Mazda MX-5 (NC) owner, a little unusual that every Mazda Model of these vintages has has Air Bag inflators done EXCEPT the NC MX-5 (Worldwide)?....anyone know why?
My Drivers Steering Wheel on my S2 RX-8 and MX-5 are identical to look at, same part number clock spring. S2 AB recall does only apply to Passenger Side AB though. |
"new" MAZDA RECALL INFORMATION CENTRE
Mazda Recall Information Center - South Bay Mazda |
CONFIRMED: For Series II RX-8 the recall ONLY pertains to the PASSENGER Dashboard side Air Bag INFLATOR ONLY, it DOES NOT apply to the Drivers Steering Wheel Air Bag as the S2's had a changed steering wheel design/style (same as what NC2 MX-5 Miata uses) and that DRIVERS side AB Inflator is made by a different company, NOT Takata.
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In Australia I have received my first ever Mazda recall notice for my S2 PASSENGER Side TAKATA AB Inflator replacement.
S2 Drivers AB Inflators are made by a different company and are NOT subject to any RECALL or replacement. |
I work for Mazda as a DSM in the MWR. I own 3 Mazda's CX7-Rx8 and a speed 6. All my cars have the recall for takata including the control arm for the 7 and 8 and the fuel pump recall for the 8.
I encourage all to have their recall for the takata finished before 12/31/2017 because NHTSA is pushing for 100% completion rate from all manufactures by then for the 1417G ( Use to be 8215H) and 9416E. If Mazda cant get near the completion rate then they will be subject to a fine from NTHSA that will hurt Mazda more than a company like Honda or Toyota. Mazda is only a 2% market holder in US car sales. |
It is not Mazda fault concerning TAKATA made 'Inflators', to fine the 3rd party is somewhat contestable and draconian.
ALL in the Auto industry are fully understanding and supportive to meet Government installation goals. BUT!. Takata is the supplier who is at fault here (and partially owned by Honda). They have gone missing in the supply chain, making 60 million units on demand is an impossibility. Here in Oz Mazda (Takata) has allocated names for the initial OEM installations, called them the 'Alpha' units. The replacement and 'updated' inflators are called Beta, these Betas are said to last up to a 10 year life span and 'will need renewing again'....................... the saga continues... |
The replacement inflators were the same inflators they just have a packet to absorb the moisture to give them anotehr 10 years of life down the road and not corrode the tube. The ammonium nitrate is what caused the rust of the tubes around the inflators.
Takata has filed bankruptcy and autoleve is now taking over the recall. The new inflators no longer use the ammonium nitrate and come with a new bracket. air bags are to only last for 10 years and should be replaced regardless. I see to many people pulling air bags out of salvage yards instead of buying a good new replacement. |
Still nothing in Canada. Just checked with the Mazda Canada recall website.
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Old news..
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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX
(Post 4840060)
Still nothing in Canada. Just checked with the Mazda Canada recall website.
Here they are going crazy as the Federal Government are saying Automakers are too slow and only 17% of cars have had the Alfa inflators renewed. They are going to be fined (talk of) if they are not renewed withing 36 hours of notices going out to owners. Typical politicians have not got a clue about logistics and manufacturing, lets make 60 million inflators overnight. Mazda 2,3 and MX-5 /Miata uses a different brand. Series 2 RX-8 is only for Passenger side unit. |
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 4840067)
Really, nothing?
Here they are going crazy as the Federal Government are saying Automakers are too slow and only 17% of cars have had the Alfa inflators renewed. They are going to be fined (talk of) if they are not renewed withing 36 hours of notices going out to owners. Typical politicians have not got a clue about logistics and manufacturing, lets make 60 million inflators overnight. Mazda 2,3 and MX-5 /Miata uses a different brand. Series 2 RX-8 is only for Passenger side unit. Not sure when Mazda Canada will take actions. Hmm, should I contact Mazda Canada and bring it up? |
Has anyone else who has already gotten the recall fix still getting spammed with mailers about the recall?
Who the F do I contact to stop them (the mailers)? |
Originally Posted by UnknownJinX
(Post 4840106)
Nope, nothing in Canada yet for S2s. No recalls according to both Mazda Canada and Transport Canada.
Not sure when Mazda Canada will take actions. Hmm, should I contact Mazda Canada and bring it up? The Series 2 Drivers inflator is a Daicel brand airbag as used on 2,3, Miata with change of Steering Wheel in S2. I have been getting recall notice letters and phone text at every 2 weeks from Mazda Australia for the past 3 months, I have told them my car is not in use (unregistered as I am using my MX-5), I am certainly not registering and insuring it just to drive to a Dealer and get Passenger AB done, I will do it soon. |
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My Canadian transplant 2009 R3 is not found in the airbagrecall.com site, nor in the mazdarecallinfo.com site. Odd.
The car really does exist, and this really is the vin. I wonder what is the frigging deal here? |
JM1FE174090401376
This is your VIN Number /\ I have no Idea what the 1GAZGY number you have also enter, ONLY use JM1FE174090401376 Your Sparkling Black FED/CAN Manual Trans R3 RX-8 does exist and was made on May 26th, 2008. And yes I just tried on the mazdarecall site and it says VIN does not exist.. I checked your VIN on Mazda NAO EPC (supplied by Mazda Japan) and the Vin Number Does exist, that is how I found out the colour and date of manufacture of your R3. I suggest you call Mazda Canada and get it sorted, obviously somehow your VIN is not in recall database. |
Here is my recall letter from Mazda Australia, I have had about 5 of them from July this year and a number of texts., my S2 was made August 7th 2008.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...3e3e65e559.jpg |
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My S2 is not part of the recall because it has had too much Northern Exposure (not enough humidity to degrade the module). It is only a matter of time until it is in the recall. It will be replaced by another same design only again to take a matter of time to explode. |
What a load of..
My S2 lives in the driest state in Australia, NO Humidity...so.. |
Originally Posted by wannawankel
(Post 4841181)
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...808b9cdf47.png
My S2 is not part of the recall because it has had too much Northern Exposure (not enough humidity to degrade the module). It is only a matter of time until it is in the recall. It will be replaced by another same design only again to take a matter of time to explode. Whoever says that BC doesn't have a lot of moisture needs to be drowned in the rainwater. My 08 Accord Coupe was also recalled for the Takata airbag, and I got it done before I sold it, so there is no reason Mazda Canada is not doing it. The new ones have a compound that sucks up water, so it should at least hold up for a while. |
I'm in the zone that Mazda claims is not part of the first wave of US recalls for the TAB
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Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 4841170)
JM1FE174090401376
This is your VIN Number /\ I have no Idea what the 1GAZGY number you have also enter, ONLY use JM1FE174090401376 I suggest you call Mazda Canada and get it sorted, obviously somehow your VIN is not in recall database. I don't know where the 1GAZGY number came from - I did enter the actual VIN. I will call Mazda CAN. |
This is a thread on S2, only the Passenger side AB is in recall, post removed.
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So I decided to call Mazda Canada the other day to get some answers.
The lady who picked up the phone just told me that Canada may use different parts. I informed her that since all the RX-8s are made in the same factory, they should all use the same airbags. I also said this car is recalled for the passenger side airbag in the US and Australia. They also said there is a priority list for the airbag recall, which makes sense. BC has high humidity, but our temperature doesn't swing much between seasons, so I guess that's why we are lower on the priority list. I will bug them again later if they don't do anything. At the mean time, can anyone check the part number for the passenger airbag in the US and other regions? |
Sorry for late response...in regard to Canada and the 'lady' who you talked to...
that is just BS. The Inflator units are not for sale as an individual part only to the public, they have been made specially available for the recall ONLY. Normally when you renew your Air Bag (passenger) you also get the Black Dash Cover with it $1300, this is how the inflator and air bag itself and the vinyl cover is normally sold, and for LHD RX-8's in NORTH AMERICA including Canada the part number is the same for the 3 component assembly...this is the part number for the assembly.. https://www.parkmazdaoemparts.com/pa...&siteid=215334 As I said the RECALL-ed part is the Inflator only....which is NOT listed for sale in ANY Mazda GEPC. I would ask the simple question, the Passenger side was done for the S1 RX-8 in Canada and USA and as the inflator is the same for S2 WHY is it not being done in Canada. Seriously I would be talking to MNAO (USA) they are still in-charge of CANADA Distribution and find out what is the hold up....Good enough for Australia good enough for Canada. |
They aren’t likely going to do anything more than they’re “required” to do. So there could be some unique factors relative to that country’s laws and authoritys which influence whether to eat their own money or not.
Generally speaking, the general attitude there is if they do it a certain way in the USA then it must be wrong ... :lol: . |
Part Number for Passenger Inflator is added on Page 1 of this thread.
Can confirm it is the exact same Inflator used on S1's and for all Left and Right hand drives. (all RX-8's). Got mine renewed Today. |
Virginia Ohio USA S2 just received my air bag inflators recall
I just received my inflator recall notice 9 March 18. I have an appointment next week to install. Has anyone has noticeable issues with the air bad cover on the dash post installation? My cover is pristine right now.https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...191799e046.jpg |
The Mazda dealer I took mine to did a good job, no scratches/cracks or anything out of the norm, but then again, I spent some time talking with the manager and he had a fairly good knowledge about the 8s and rotaries overall, in addition to later finding out that one of their lead techs is a rotary enthusiast, so I lucked out.
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Don’t worry. My dealer did it fast with no ill effects. Service manager mentioned it’s a pretty easy thing to do. |
I had something like this done on my Accord Coupe when I had it. It had an airbag recall. Nothing bad happened, other than the fact that they broke one of the string on the seat cushion I had. I wasn't so mad so the cushion was free and kinda crappy anyway.
Some people have worse experience than others. It all depends on your individual dealer and the person working on it. Anyway, if someone gets hurt or dies in an accident because of the faulty passenger airbag, I am suing Mazda since there is still no recall in Canada. |
Originally Posted by wannawankel
(Post 4854165)
I just received my inflator recall notice 9 March 18. I have an appointment next week to install. Has anyone has noticeable issues with the air bad cover on the dash post installation? My cover is pristine right now. |
Originally Posted by UnknownJinX
(Post 4854190)
I had something like this done on my Accord Coupe when I had it. It had an airbag recall. Nothing bad happened, other than the fact that they broke one of the string on the seat cushion I had. I wasn't so mad so the cushion was free and kinda crappy anyway.
Some people have worse experience than others. It all depends on your individual dealer and the person working on it. Anyway, if someone gets hurt or dies in an accident because of the faulty passenger airbag, I am suing Mazda since there is still no recall in Canada. The lack of recall in Canada could be down to several factors. The Canadian government may not pursue such things as aggressively as other countries. It may not be humid and/or salty enough in Canada to cause enough corrosion in the inflaters to cause them to fail. IIRC the farther north on the recall urgency map, the less urgent the recall is. Etc. |
Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
(Post 4854197)
Do you have standing to sue on behalf of someone else, e.g. are you a lawyer? Do you have very deep pockets, e.g. can you afford for Mazda to bleed you dry over prolonged procedural maneuvering? Good luck with that!
The lack of recall in Canada could be down to several factors. The Canadian government may not pursue such things as aggressively as other countries. It may not be humid and/or salty enough in Canada to cause enough corrosion in the inflaters to cause them to fail. IIRC the farther north on the recall urgency map, the less urgent the recall is. Etc. I mean, look what happened to Takata. Didn't take that many injuries and deaths to take them down. I understand the lack of temperature swing, but BC is a very humid area in winter. It rains almost everyday in winter, and the rest of Canada is very salty due to the snow. |
Originally Posted by UnknownJinX
(Post 4854209)
It's an "if", and a big one at that. Of course I am not just gonna randomly sue them right now, but if someone is seriously injured or killed because of that, then I think anyone will take legal action. When a life is involved, it's not a moment to "suck it up".
I mean, look what happened to Takata. Didn't take that many injuries and deaths to take them down. I understand the lack of temperature swing, but BC is a very humid area in winter. It rains almost everyday in winter, and the rest of Canada is very salty due to the snow. Here is what would actually happen with your lawsuit (assuming you could actually find an attorney to represent you). It would be immediately dismissed for lack of standing, unless you or an immediate family member were injured. Barring that, Mazda would asses your finances and maneuver to bleed you into bankruptcy prior to your first meaningful hearing. The end. It isn't fair. but that's how it works. Statisticians have determined where injuries and deaths are likely to occur, and Canada does not seem to be one of those places, which means Canada will be down the list in terms of priority. It only makes sense--your outrageous outrage aside. |
Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
(Post 4854212)
Youthful idealism is so precious.
Here is what would actually happen with your lawsuit (assuming you could actually find an attorney to represent you). It would be immediately dismissed for lack of standing, unless you or an immediate family member were injured. Barring that, Mazda would asses your finances and maneuver to bleed you into bankruptcy prior to your first meaningful hearing. The end. It isn't fair. but that's how it works. Statisticians have determined where injuries and deaths are likely to occur, and Canada does not seem to be one of those places, which means Canada will be down the list in terms of priority. It only makes sense--your outrageous outrage aside. So what would you do if the airbag shoots metal into a family member and the airbag hasn't been recalled? Also, Honda has recalled my old Accord Coupe for the airbag and I had it done long ago. So why isn't Mazda doing it? More limited resources? |
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Here it is in Canada, but only for 09? :dunno: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...213a26ef1b.pngMazda Canada website https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...ecd055b456.pngTransport Canada website |
This is payback by Mazda NA for Avril Lavigne and Justin Beiber.
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