Turdblown's welds makes it possible to cry and laugh at the same time

huh?

Mazda RX-8 Turbo Manifold - Turblown Engineering

http://www.turblown.net/store/produc...fold_Welds.jpg

you a turdblown fanboi? 9k's picture not clear enough for you?

huh?

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3698/1...8bf985a1_c.jpg

:lol: Yeah I always wondered why they never put pics of all of their actual work on the website and Facebook. I tried to put them on the FB page but they get deleted. But here and on rx7club.com my posts can't be deleted by Elliot.

Omg, my friend was considering this kit. I have to show him this. O_O

Have him read the Turblown low mount thread. Shitty workmanship aside, they also took close to a year to deliver on both of my friends "kits" and then they both needed at least a grand to get re-fabricated to work properly. Slash8 went with a whole other kit altogether after getting his money back thru a credit card dispute charge back. Turdblown is another den of liars, withe everyone one it was just one BS excuse and lie after another, just stay away.

Just talked to Dave@S1 yesterday and was shooting the shit with him about Turbo ideas. He still recommends using the kit, but not the turbo that they provide.

Kit works, may be ugly and you'll take forever to get one is what I got out of it.

No they don't work as sold. You should talk to people who actually have experience with this kit. Dave doesn't know what he is talking about here. The turbo itself is the only thing that did work as advertised but that is only because it's the put together by Comp Turbo and not Turdblown.

Anyone considering turblowhard should read the low-moun thread. Save yourself the headache. Or go for it, but don't complain when you get screwed. Seriously, trying to save you the pain. I wound up piecing together my own kit for half the money and much better results, for one it actually works :) It took work, but it was well worth it! I do thank turdbrown for the horrible experience, however, as it gave me the motivation to do it myself.

You are lucky you got your money back man. I am so glad it all worked out for you, I can't wait to see some 1/4 mile run video. If I were to ditch my low mount setup I will likely go with the PTP kit, I plan on picking up a kit without the turbo before they run out of them.

And another thing ............ Any claims Turblown make about their kit making 400whp are complete and utter BS.

Well they did make that, once, briefly.

I personally don't believe they ever even got close .
They used a dodgy dyno and proceeded to pull off the biggest BS story in the history of the forum!............................................ ........... IMO:)

Well Hoss-05 is friends with/served with the owner of that car (who does not care for Turblown so has no reason to lie) and he said his father was present (he was in Afghanistan) at the dyno day and drove the car that day. It was very short lived however. He now has a 20B Turbo in it.

The fact that someone was there doesn't prove anything other than that number appeared on the screen for that particular dyno.

Here is the story as I remember it :

*They dyno the car at 10PSI and get around 300whp . MM says "we only used 1/2 throttle" .If you have driven enough turbo 8s you will know the power difference between 10psi at 1/2 throttle and 10psi at full throttle is minimal.
Where the throttle is (in relation to boost at the manifold) has minimal effect on how much power you are making .
I argued the point with MM at the time but was shut down .......per the typical MM MO.

*They then re-dyno the car and suddenly make 423whp on only 10PSI . This is SOOOOOO far out of line with anything else anyone has done before or after . Not only that , if you look at the flow chart for a GT35 (pretty sure that was the turbo) you will see that 60ish lbs/min at 10psi is impossible. Even Mazdatrix with a PP renesis can't recreate this kind of majic.

*Later on the owner re-dynos the car at 10psi and struggles to make 300whp .

Did I miss anything ?

Yeah definitely dyno magic plays into it I am sure. But his father said it was very fast and from what I gather he has experience with fast cars. If that means anything. It doesn't really matter I guess though since the people who did the work are so unreliable.

A 300whp RX8 IS very fast .............. ;)

Until you drag race a Camaro ZL1 on nitrous, then it's just silly slow.

But PSI doesn't matter it's all about flow, LOL.

You remember those arguments too huh ? LOL

I suppose so .
As far as what matters and what doesn't ........... in the context of what us FI guys are doing it does matter . That result made everyone else who worked hard and didn't even get close look silly.
The fact that it was BS needs to be acknowledged .

I'm sure many here do as well. Some of them were epic back and forth bitching :lol:

That's what happens when stubborn people argue a point that has elements of truth on both sides . ;)

Well I don't think I was around here then, but I've read them and laughed a lot. Then I found MM's rotary math sheet and said how the hell could he calculate all that, but can't figure out 10 PSI is around 300 on a renesis.

Yeah most of what has been claimed over the years and is being claimed today is pretty much bullshit and wishful thinking in terms of numbers. Over the years I have just learned to ignore all dyno claims and just pay attention to real world results that can't be altered or faked. Having two other local turbo RX-8's to go to the drag strip with will give us a better picture of what is really capable.