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isn't there a difference also in the headlights as well? and are they for sale too?
For now I only seen Spirit R RX-8 badges, Spirit R RX-8 tail lights, and spirit r rims for sale in the Japanese Yahoo Auction market. But I am sure other Spirit R RX-8 stuff will be available later, such as headlights, Spirit R RX-8 Seats, Spirit R RX-8 shift ****, shift boot, steering wheel, etc. If they have slightly differences than the normal R3 ones.
For the FD3S, the Spirit R FD stuff are all red stitching, and the Spirit R Recaro seats are known for the best street seats for FD. Not sure about the Spirit R RX-8 seats though.
Just to clear the record up, the Spirit R Manual ONLY came with gold 19 inch rims not 20 (20 do not exist),
The Spirit R Auto has 18 inch dark grey rims and the G model has 17 inch silver.
Here are the OEM Part Numbers for the 'external' Spirit R parts....
Wheels. 9965-06-8090 19x8J O=47 Gold Rims (x4) 9965-25-8080 18x8J O=50 Dark Gun Metal (x4) (same as normal S2 18 inch design, but dark GM paint)
Red Caliper Brake Supports.
FF60-33-281A Fronts (x2)
F195-26-28XA Rears (x2)
Spirit R Badge.
F1Y5-51-781 Fitted on 'C' pillar (x2)
LED Tail Lamps (the S2 chrome bits are painted black on Spirit R).
F190-51-150 RHR (x1)
F190-51-160 LHR (x1)
*Headlamps HID DS2 ONLY (the S2 chrome bits are painted black on Spirit R).
F190-51-031 RHF (x1)
F190-51-041 LHF (x1)
Lower front Fog Lights trim strip (the S2 chrome bits are painted black on Spirit R).
F266-50-C12 RH
F266-50-C22 LH
* Only made for JDM and ADR Right Hand Drive specified cars, not technically for LHD North American specification Series 2's and R3's, mainly the front headlamp flasher design standards (colour), also will require modifications to your existing LHD NA Globe Wiring Looms which are also different between LHD and RHD.
Gidday Ash, haven't seem you on here lately. I thought I'd pick your brains....there are a couple of new Spirits still available here in NZ. I'm tempted but it will depend on whether my house sells so it's only a thought process. Worth buying new or wait until they came on second hand with a year or two on them. Or just stick with the 06 I have. Do you have an opinion???
I have a question for you, Ash, with regards to the Japanese market Spirit R headlamps vs US market headlamps. I'm aware that there's the additional 'winker'/running lamp on the JDM headlamps, but was curious...if the small wiring harness to the headlight itself (showing up as 51-033C in JapanParts schematic) is purchased with the headlights, would this clip into the existing US market engine bay wiring harness that leads to the headlights? I'm debating the purchase of the Spirit R headlights and tail lamps, and would be much better off (obviously) if I could just clip in the JDM headlight wiring harness (the aforementioned 51-033C) to the existing body harness. Thanks again for your help!
Hi M8, I've been doing a little more studying for you (Parts wise) then an hour later....lets see..
First I am ONLY talking Headlamps with HID (D2S Xenon Low Beam Globe)
Yep as I said above these PN's are for RHD ( Australia ADR, even though we did not get the Spirit R, New Zealand got a few and they use our ADR).
Anyway, I cant tell you 100% but I am pretty certain that JDM S2 (Spirit R) uses the same light set up, more often than not RHD for Australia uses JDM parts like Lights/Wiring.
However, yes, the Australian RHD versions (all RX-8's) has an extra and separate Clear Parking Light 51-060J, a commonly used small clear 5W Globe, and the Front Indicator Globe 51-065G is a single filament 12V 21W Yellow Globe.
All Headlamp lenses are clear, the only colour is the yellow indicator globe.
Now the USA, has similar set up apart from Indicator and Parking Light, yours is all in one Yellow Globe, 51-150K 12V27/8W your indicator and parking light in the headlamp is yellow with a yellow/orange plastic lens on corner of headlamp, where as I said the Aussie version lens is all clear.
Now yes the Wiring Loom socket connector for headlamps are different between USA and RHD.
51-033C..
USA HID is FF16-51-155 (2)
Australian RHD Spirit R HID is F189-51-155A (2)...this loom also has the small globe socket base for the clear 12V5W Parking/Running Light.
The big question for you is does/will the F189-51-155A small loom install and work OK in the USA main Wiring Loom, I can't be certain, I think it would be OK, but to be honest I have had a hard day and I am tired, I will try and get back, but you may have to alter/mod wiring to use the F189-51-155A, remember the Globe Sockets or Globe Holder is not the same between USA and AU models for the Indicator and Parking Lights.
HID and High Beam Globes and Sockets are the same though.
So if you purchased Spirit R's Headlamps, you will have an extra hole in back of Headlight for the small Clear Parking Light.
Plus the hole for the Indicator ONLY (which is not for a double filament Globe), I think the hole size/tab locks for these sockets could be different, but can't physically confirm right now.
Hi M8, I've been doing a little more studying for you (Parts wise) then an hour later....lets see..
*SNIP*
The big question for you is does/will the F189-51-155A small loom install and work OK in the USA main Wiring Loom, I can't be certain, I think it would be OK, but to be honest I have had a hard day and I am tired, I will try and get back, but you may have to alter/mod wiring to use the F189-51-155A, remember the Globe Sockets or Globe Holder is not the same between USA and AU models for the Indicator and Parking Lights.
HID and High Beam Globes and Sockets are the same though.
So if you purchased Spirit R's Headlamps, you will have an extra hole in back of Headlight for the small Clear Parking Light.
Plus the hole for the Indicator ONLY (which is not for a double filament Globe), I think the hole size/tab locks for these sockets could be different, but can't physically confirm right now.
Let me sleep on it..
Ash
Thanks for the prompt response, Ash :]. You're dead on in what I'm wondering. If I can connect the F189-51-155A loom to the US main wiring loom, I'd avoid the whole mess of splicing/soldering/whatever I'd have to do to make the headlamps work. I'm hoping they do play nice together... it'd be awesome to have the mean looking Spirit R lamps on my US-spec 8. I'm pretty positive the rear lamps are the same electrically, so the front lamps are all I need to figure out. Thanks again for your assistance!
OH yeah, you wont have any issues with the rear Tail Lamps, apart from the fact that there is no 12V5W side/corner parking (running) light globe and socket which is specified for all USA spec RX-8's (S2's)...I think the hole is still there for it, you just have to remove a cap and install your old one.
Front main Wiring Looms, after checking they are different by OE part number, but I can't confirm if F189-51-155A will install without alterations to your existing set up.
Thanks for the prompt response, Ash :]. You're dead on in what I'm wondering. If I can connect the F189-51-155A loom to the US main wiring loom, I'd avoid the whole mess of splicing/soldering/whatever I'd have to do to make the headlamps work. I'm hoping they do play nice together... it'd be awesome to have the mean looking Spirit R lamps on my US-spec 8. I'm pretty positive the rear lamps are the same electrically, so the front lamps are all I need to figure out. Thanks again for your assistance!
Maybe I can bring the loom on my next order, to test it on an 09-10 US harness.
Maybe I can bring the loom on my next order, to test it on an 09-10 US harness.
Paul.
That'd be pretty amazing of you, Paul. If it ends up working with the US cars, I'd love to order those, along with the headlights and taillights, from you. Let me know if you decide to order the loom to try it out, and subsequently, what the outcome is.
I just got a set of spirit R seats today and the red leather on them is a bit worn in some areas. I was looking into restoring it and I guess the most common method is light sanding and using a leather rubbing type of paint to restore color, only issue is I have no idea where to look for Spirit R leather paint color, i'm still waiting for a call back from a few shops i've called, but thought i'd ask here as well.
Yes, I would suggest you look your local Automotive Upholsterer for Seats and Roof linings.
IF you can find a good one (most long term small business are good, otherwise they don't survive past 3 years), hang on to it as a good one is worth every cent/dollar they charge.
They will repair and bring back those beautiful RX-8 Spirit R Recaro's back to new.
Nothing worse than a dodgy home made trim repair, a bit like duco, poorly finished strips thousands off any cars worth (value).
Hi M8, I've been doing a little more studying for you (Parts wise) then an hour later....lets see..
First I am ONLY talking Headlamps with HID (D2S Xenon Low Beam Globe)
Yep as I said above these PN's are for RHD ( Australia ADR, even though we did not get the Spirit R, New Zealand got a few and they use our ADR).
Anyway, I cant tell you 100% but I am pretty certain that JDM S2 (Spirit R) uses the same light set up, more often than not RHD for Australia uses JDM parts like Lights/Wiring.
However, yes, the Australian RHD versions (all RX-8's) has an extra and separate Clear Parking Light 51-060J, a commonly used small clear 5W Globe, and the Front Indicator Globe 51-065G is a single filament 12V 21W Yellow Globe.
All Headlamp lenses are clear, the only colour is the yellow indicator globe.
Now the USA, has similar set up apart from Indicator and Parking Light, yours is all in one Yellow Globe, 51-150K 12V27/8W your indicator and parking light in the headlamp is yellow with a yellow/orange plastic lens on corner of headlamp, where as I said the Aussie version lens is all clear.
Now yes the Wiring Loom socket connector for headlamps are different between USA and RHD.
51-033C..
USA HID is FF16-51-155 (2)
Australian RHD Spirit R HID is F189-51-155A (2)...this loom also has the small globe socket base for the clear 12V5W Parking/Running Light.
The big question for you is does/will the F189-51-155A small loom install and work OK in the USA main Wiring Loom, I can't be certain, I think it would be OK, but to be honest I have had a hard day and I am tired, I will try and get back, but you may have to alter/mod wiring to use the F189-51-155A, remember the Globe Sockets or Globe Holder is not the same between USA and AU models for the Indicator and Parking Lights.
HID and High Beam Globes and Sockets are the same though.
So if you purchased Spirit R's Headlamps, you will have an extra hole in back of Headlight for the small Clear Parking Light.
Plus the hole for the Indicator ONLY (which is not for a double filament Globe), I think the hole size/tab locks for these sockets could be different, but can't physically confirm right now.
Let me sleep on it..
Ash
I just got a set of JDM S2 lights in and they're going to a friend of mine that's buying them from me with a USDM S2, where could you exactly find the wiring loom to accommodate the extra bulb? Or maybe just block off the extra hole and not worry about it? Not and ideal alternative, but something I guess. I know this isn't Spirit R related, but just thought i'd ask. Also here's a few pics of the lights
*Something to note also is the piano black bezels that USDM S2 lights don't have, that along with the clear markers really do look quite nice especially when pianted black, these ones I did in chrysler black pearl and left the bezels piano black & added red bulb reflectors as well and they turned out really well imo
Last edited by @italia916; Mar 4, 2016 at 11:10 PM.
Yep, you can kind of see the glossy reflection in these pics, this is the first JDM set I was able to get ahold of, but from what others have said the USDM ones are the only ones that have orange side markers and dull black bezels, but i'm not 100% on how accurate that is
JDM are the same as what (RHD) we in Australia use.
These are brand new Spirit R's for RHD JDM/AU with HID headlamps below. (unaltered)
I have already listed the small loom F189-51-155A and globe holders you need IF you want to be exact to US main headlamp wiring loom, or you try and mod what you have.
The RHD S2 headlamp short loom I think is about $50 each (memory), which I have also posted before...you can not buy them in US unless you import from Japan or Australia.
JDM are the same as what (RHD) we in Australia use.
These are brand new Spirit R's for RHD JDM/AU with HID headlamps below. (unaltered)
I have already listed the small loom F189-51-155A and globe holders you need IF you want to be exact to US main headlamp wiring loom, or you try and mod what you have.
The RHD S2 headlamp short loom I think is about $50 each (memory), which I have also posted before...you can not buy them in US unless you import from Japan or Australia.
I saw that, but do you have a direct link as to where or who I'd contact about ordering those looms? Like I said before the extra light could probably just be blocked off, but if it could be used that would be much more ideal
The F189-51-155A loom leads are more than I thought, at least $70 AUD each, so two for 140.
There is no online ordering for JAP/or AU parts (parts dealers here are way behind, I am trying to get my local guy I trained decades ago to do it, he runs a 6 franchise new car parts warehouse for his multi fran Dealerships with Reynolds and Reynolds systems, they are rip off 'ah' and say it cant be integrated with 'a' public on-line site, which is just BS.
They (RR) charged him $60K for a bar code reader and printer integration...!!
Anyway, I could get 2 looms, but really mate, you are better off contacting PAUL at Mazmart and get him to buy out of Japan from his supplier, you know what a great Mazda guy Paul is, we all love Paul (respect), I would prefer you see him.
EDIT: Keep in mind that you 'may' not be able to buy new now, Mazda tends not to stock many (qty) of looms as obviously they don't make them and there are just so many, and are not fast sellers....you should be OK, but would not be surprised.
If Paul cant get I will try Mazda Australia via dealer, they may have a few....go with Paul first....he will be cheaper than me.