Series II ECU Tuning
 

EDIT: Never mind. I didn't grasp that Series II was referring to 2009+ RX-8 models.

personal fail :icon_no2:



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lol

hey, there is always the e-manage!

i heard its amazing!

Superceded by the E-bay chip . Get with the program ! :spank:

never thought i'd live to see the day of a personal fail by team lol

We are currently working on a plug in replacement for the Rx8 and have had great success. Please check back in the next 3-6 months for a product release!

If there is anything else we can do please let me know,

Kind Regards,
Scott Hilzinger
Haltech Sales / Support

Haltech - Engine Management Systems: 2009 RX 8

So might be something

Using a Sport 2000...or a 1000? Running the intake valves/MOP and throttle?

I'm not sure about your question. I'm sorry if there was confusion I e mailed the company and that was there responce. My bad on not being more clear.

I was wondering how involved they were getting...so far the trigger doesn't work in the Sport series units...so hopefully they are further along than it appears

talk is cheap, they clearly don't fully understand the RX-8 application, see the recent Haltech thread in the S1 tuning area

when they release a dedicated RX-8 Pro system I'll be impressed ...


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So is there any option for tuning the S2 Renny currently?

nope

What about Cobb AP?

AP is not available for series II.
If you really want to tune one, adapt a Motec system to it and go to town.

Personally, I'd just swap the drivetrain for a series I and be done with it.
Its not like the series II improvements mean much.

stupid Cobb needs to stop f#@king around and get you guys an AP for the Series II.
there's a market for it. Not a huge market but with the rate these things sell at on here, I'm sure it would justify the expense.

I'd be happy if they would just incorporate the various unsupported JDM and EUDM series I ROMs that they promised they would do 2 years ago.

Yea it took cobb what like 2 months to release a AP for the GT-R.

And they said the GT-R ecu was impossible to crack

Not to mention Im sure there would be a bigger market for S2 Renny than GTRs.

I'm pretty sure more ppl own S2s than there are GTRs in existance. at least US

But the GTR guys will pay 10x a much to have their car tuned.

too much imo shochu last night :uhh:

gomennasai ....

The funny thing the AP is about $500-$600 for evey car cobb has available the GT-R is $1,000. I agree with you Symbioticgenius there are more S2 owners than GT-R's in the states. This is the same bulls@*t used when the Honda K-series came out now everyone has a computer for it.

If its bullshit, design your own software/hardware to do the same thing and charge $100 for it.

Dude I was waiting for you to do it so I can buy buy it. I hear nothing but good things from your tunning maps.

EManage Ultimate? INT-X? Something is better than nothing...

^^ Anyone? ^^

Is the pinnout for the ECU even the same?

I sent an email off to the guy who develped the Powermod I used to use to see if he can help.

very smart shot in the dark! ;)

beers :beer:

Assuming the crank angle sensor is the same , the Powermod guy seems to think it would work .
As far as pinouts go he has not tried it so does not know if they are the same .

I do know where there is a unit that could be cheap enough to use to test out ......

Crank angle sensors are the same...Mazda Part Number, so I they are the same...

Over to the smart asses who want to argue they are different.

Is the ecu used in the S2 that much different from the S1? Sure, they probably changed pinouts or something just to fuck with people... but is the ecu model different? Are there different sensors in the S2 than the S1?

yes

i know this would be a year away, but is there a possibility that the rx9 and rx7 will have a similar ecu setting? if the ecu is similar maybe cobb will rethink accessport for our s2. is there any possibility of this happening?

Just like the RX7 continued to sell in Japan... the RX8 or something with the S2 Renesis will probably be sold until a global rollout of a new model. The most likely place to look for any sort of ecu mods for this engine will be Japan. Which will make setup, installation and tuning less than pleasant!

i would like to go the turbo route in the future depending on how the future plays out (hell if i kno) so im assuming ill have to go w/ a standalone, but i have no idea what id be doing so id be looking for professional (experienced rotary tuner) help. still hoping cobb will change their mind (unlikely). besides, anything JDM will require modifications to the wiring harness and other stuff i dont know about (correct me if im wrong. i like correction because its a chance to learn). haltech has some good stuff so if anyone has experience let me know what ill be looking at.

thanks in advance

Full standalone is a serious serious hassle. And if you have to pass any sort of emissions tests/inspections where they plug into the obd2 port you are boned. The port just does not work with standalones.

After having a Motec M4Pro on a Subaru for a bit... I never want to deal with that again.

are there any other ways to do this other than going the standalone route?
from what ive read, a piggy back could work but is not preferable since it cant handle ignition timing very well. is it possible to run something in parallel a possibility?
i have no idea what that would entail. and i dont need to worry about emissions.

/\ pretty sur the power mod would do it if someone wanted to invest the effort into it .

yeah, but if anyone cared that much brettus we'd have MS and half a dozen other options confirmed to work by now.

wouldn't the FSM show you the pin-out?
That I would think would be the easiest way to tell the difference.

Ecu
 

Cant we just replace our ecu so that we can do tuning to our car ?
lol ~ just some silly thought

If you can afford it, why not

is it expensive ?
i heard alot ppl saying " change ur ecu , this and that .. can make ur car go faster "
does it means by really changing ur whole ecu unit ? or just the ecu chips ?

There are many different kinds: Standalone, piggybacks, reflash, etc.

The main thing you want is a "tune" for mods or to extract the most potential out of your engine. Google "engine tuning"

ah .. ok .. so i want to know .. can the r3 be piggyback or reflash ? if we can do it ... which means we can use cobb with that ecu .. can we .. ?

A search would give you the right answer to this question: No, the accessPORT will never be available for the s2 rx8 and is discontinued for the s1.
Piggy backs won't work well, stand alones are expensive (and often a wiring nightmare).

cool, i know is not available for s2 .. but if we change our ecu to s1 .. will available ? :D

engine is different:rollingla

boooo :(

The cobb was really the only thing worth buying, nothing else will provide the same results and you will more than likely end up with problems.

At the end of the day, is the 5-15whp worth all the money and headaches anyways. Put a midpipe on your car and a ram air duct, cheapest power you can get and will actually yield you something.......noise mainly.