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BigOLundh 12-18-2007 08:16 PM

Will It Fit Thread
 
Since most of the threads in this sub-forum are questions based on "will these rims fit with this setup". Itll be easier to just answer all the questions in one thread.

Ill update this first post with links to basic explanations on how wheels sizes and offsets work. That alone should answer 90% of the questions, but it wont because its easier to post it rather than doing the research first.


Nonetheless... please just post up

Wheel Diameter (F/R)
Wheel Width (F/R)
Wheel Offset (F/R)
Suspensions Changes (i.e. - how low are you dropped. If you have coilovers... you dont need to post this as you can just adjust it after you get your wheels on.


So For Example:
F: 19X10 +28
R: 19X9 +30


Also if you like, if you have a set of tires in mind.. post up the specs to that as well
(W/P/D)


EX:
F: 235/35/19
R: 265/30/19


Many times its possible to make an aggressive wheel fit, by using an equally aggressive tire combination. Obviously this is very dangerous, more likely to lead to your tire exploding, and less protection from potholes and curb damage... but it looks so jDm!!!!




And on this note, please stop PMing me your wheel/tire questions. Just post it here, and those who know... can chime in with the info you are looking for.

Thanks :)

rio_rx8 12-18-2007 08:28 PM

I guess ill go first....

How about 19X9.5 all around with a 45-48mm offset....Stock height stock brakes...

"will these rims fit...?"

TragicallyHip 12-18-2007 08:30 PM

F: 18x8.5 +35 (Option 1)
F: 18x9.5 +35 (Option 2)
R: 18x9.5 +35

Tires on those rims would be:
F: 235/40-18 (Option 1)
F: 275/35-18 (Option 2)
R: 275/35-18

BigOLundh 12-18-2007 08:35 PM

ALRIGHT - our first victim.... err i mean participant.


The rear will be tucked in a bit by about 1/4" from the fender, but other than that there should be very minimal issues. Definetely wont need a fender roll.

The front will probably fit as well, but you are chancing rubbing on the inner fender when turning the wheels. Ooh, and on this first example... you maybe able to get away with this by running a stretched tire upfront. You wont need anything two agressive, but just a 255/35/19 should work.

If possible... test fit the rear wheels on the front, before buying all 4.
Althought, i would think its better to get a different setup.

I maybe wrong about the front wheels, so we'll see what other say. Possibly those who have tried this themselves.

BigOLundh 12-18-2007 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by TragicallyHip (Post 2198637)
F: 18x8.5 +35 (Option 1)
F: 18x9.5 +35 (Option 2)
R: 18x9.5 +35

Tires on those rims would be:
F: 235/40-18 (Option 1)
F: 275/35-18 (Option 2)
R: 275/35-18

Option 2 sounds similar to the RPF1 setup everyone is running. Should be fine.

Option 1 will work as well... but your front wheel will be sitting .5" fruther in then the rear wheel (i.e. not flush)

rio_rx8 12-18-2007 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by BigOLundh (Post 2198647)
ALRIGHT - our first victim.... err i mean participant.


The rear will be tucked in a bit by about 1/4" from the fender, but other than that there should be very minimal issues. Definetely wont need a fender roll.

The front will probably fit as well, but you are chancing rubbing on the inner fender when turning the wheels. Ooh, and on this first example... you maybe able to get away with this by running a stretched tire upfront. You wont need anything two agressive, but just a 255/35/19 should work.

If possible... test fit the rear wheels on the front, before buying all 4.
Althought, i would think its better to get a different setup.

I maybe wrong about the front wheels, so we'll see what other say. Possibly those who have tried this themselves.



Thanks alot for the input and thread...I just want to be 110% sure if im gonna be ordering wheels online...and since i live on guam...shipping wheels back because they dont fit is gonna be a hassle to deal with...

thanks though

nuke0907 12-18-2007 08:57 PM

haha, i thought this was gonna be a thread to post wheel specs that work. i was gonna post my specs. i didn't actually think you would make a thread to answer everyone's questions.

rglbegl 12-18-2007 09:19 PM

18x8.5 +37?mm 245/40/18 front
18x9.5 +38?mm 275/35/18 rear

Sittin on tein s-tech I have NO rubbing issues at all.

rio_rx8 12-18-2007 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by nuke0907 (Post 2198689)
haha, i thought this was gonna be a thread to post wheel specs that work. i was gonna post my specs. i didn't actually think you would make a thread to answer everyone's questions.

you could still post your wheel specs...im sure it will help someone whos thinking of running a similar setup

nuke0907 12-18-2007 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by rio_rx8 (Post 2198775)
you could still post your wheel specs...im sure it will help someone whos thinking of running a similar setup

19" Axis Matrix with Toyo Proxes T1R

F: 19x8" +35mm 235/35/19
R:19x9.5" +40mm 265/30/19

lowered on Tein S-Techs.

no rubbing. i really wish the fronts were 8.5" at least. the rears are perfect.

scsi 12-18-2007 09:55 PM

check this out

Rear
18x10 +41, 285/35/18
http://www.insomniaq.com/profs/1.jpg

TrochoidMagic 12-19-2007 03:59 AM

^^that is mad sick dude.

paulmasoner 12-19-2007 04:01 AM

Yo hS, how about this idea, will it fit?

18X8 +50 wrapped in 225/45/18

Please tell me it will work, i think this would look sweet!


:lol:


btw, if 3 Shades of Brown doesn't get their act together and step it up, you may have to find a new manger:squint:

effie 12-19-2007 05:00 AM

ok...my turn...

Will these fit....?

19x9 offset 25 front
19x10 offset 25 rear

Im guessing id have to run some major negative rear camber to get it to fit.... Definately need to roll the fenders right....

tyre wise im thinking

235/35/19 front
275/30/19 rear

BigOLundh 12-19-2007 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by effie (Post 2199330)
ok...my turn...

Will these fit....?

19x9 offset 25 front
19x10 offset 25 rear

Im guessing id have to run some major negative rear camber to get it to fit.... Definately need to roll the fenders right....

tyre wise im thinking

235/35/19 front
275/30/19 rear

HELL YESS!!!!
225 35 up front
225 35 in the rear...

Push Out, Camber In, Stretch = FTW!!!

BigOLundh 12-19-2007 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by scsi (Post 2198835)
check this out

Rear
18x10 +41, 285/35/18
http://www.insomniaq.com/profs/1.jpg

AKA PERFECTION

-hS

rglbegl 12-19-2007 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by rglbegl (Post 2198749)
18x8.5 +37?mm 245/40/18 front
18x9.5 +38?mm 275/35/18 rear

Sittin on tein s-tech I have NO rubbing issues at all.

Since we are adding pictures, this gives me a chance to quote myself.



http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...cture004-2.jpg

BigOLundh 12-19-2007 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 2199304)
Yo hS, how about this idea, will it fit?

18X8 +50 wrapped in 225/45/18

Please tell me it will work, i think this would look sweet!


:lol:

It will fit, but itll look like poo. Sunken Battleship Rims especially when aftermarket... not a good idea. I suggest bringing them about by at least 25mm.



Originally Posted by paulmasoner (Post 2199304)
btw, if 3 Shades of Brown doesn't get their act together and step it up, you may have to find a new manger:squint:

F u haole boy. 3 Shades Of Brown will not allow your people to invade the band and steal our lands.

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HU

Kane 12-19-2007 12:55 PM

19 X 9.5 +28mm Rear 225/35
19 X 8.5 +28mm Front 245/35

Rear has to be rolled; front is fine.
On the Left...
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1192271002

BigOLundh 12-19-2007 01:39 PM

kane - what rims is that on your FD?

Kane 12-19-2007 01:47 PM

AME Circular Spec-R BBF Finish 18x9 and 18x10

pdxhak 12-19-2007 02:11 PM

F: 19x8.5 +40mm 255/35
R: 19x8.5 +40mm 255/35
Tein Flex Coilovers

BigOLundh 12-19-2007 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Kane (Post 2200164)
AME Circular Spec-R BBF Finish 18x9 and 18x10

thats hot

cant go wrong with AMEs

Easy_E1 12-19-2007 04:21 PM

This is what I have and no issues,,,
F/R 18 x 8.5 38 mm offset
F/R 265-35 x 18

TragicallyHip 12-19-2007 07:23 PM

OK, so I NEED to make up my mind tonight on what I am going to do about rims/tires...

Big-O, I know you said that the 275/35-18's sounded similar to the RPF1 setup everyone is using, but mine are +35 while they are all running +45... I DO NOT want to have to roll my fenders, so i'm nervous to go with the 275's...

I need to know if 18x9.5 in 275/35-18 (+35) will fit FOR SURE in the rear without rubbing...

If not, I need to know the widest I can go in the rear with a +35 offset, on an 18x9.5 rim... AND NOT rub.... I only have until Friday to make my order :(

I

BigOLundh 12-19-2007 07:54 PM

Im pretty sure your rear will be fine. Its your front wheels im worried about.

Essentially you are trying to go 1cm further out than the current popular enkei rpf1 setup. Im sure theres people on here who have that setup that can advise you if their is space or not to do so.

How low is your car dropped?
SCSI has his slammed with the RPF1 Setup... so he had to roll his fenders. Its not really that big of a deal... a good shop can do it for cheap and itll look completely normal.

NgoRX8 12-19-2007 08:05 PM

you will rub the rear. i have 19s and run 275 with a 9.5 +36 wheel and i required a fender shave.

it's really borderline between running a 265 and 255 tire if you don't want to rub. i can't remember exactly which.

TragicallyHip 12-19-2007 08:13 PM

I'm not lowered at all BigO.
What is it that worries you about the front wheels?

NgoRX8 12-19-2007 08:13 PM

i'm pretty sure a 265 tire for the rear will suffice as i know someone who runs a 9.5 +40 on 275s without rubbing or massive camber.

the front wheels if you go option 2, will stick out a lot. you will probably rub anytime you turn your wheel.

note the degree of rubbing will depend if you lower your car.

BigOLundh 12-19-2007 08:16 PM

^^-- ditto

and
since you are not dropped... and since these are 18s, not 19s... you should be ok.

Easy_E1 12-19-2007 08:25 PM

My car is lowered about 1.25 inches and I have about 1/2" (index finger) clearance when the wheel is turned all the way.
That's 265/35-18's on 18 x 8.5 with 38mm offset.
I think a 35mm is going to be a lot closer. OK 3mm's closer.

NgoRX8 12-19-2007 08:25 PM

wheel size being 18s or 19s doesn't matter since the diameter with the tire on is the same. actually my 275/30/19 is very slightly shorter than a 275/35/18.

TragicallyHip 12-19-2007 08:34 PM

Ahhh very nice... Common sense really, i'm just going crazy here trying to decide if I should go ahead with it or not, i'm 99% sure i'm going to go with:

18x8.5 front (+35) 225/45-18
18x9.5 rear (+35) 275/35-18

The 225's are simply because I have 4 of them which are all still in good shape and are approved for an 18x8.5 rim...

The rolling diameter is off very slightly, but doesn't matter to me...

My other option for tires, which I think I may go with if I just order rims now is:
235/40-18
265/35-18

The Rolling diameter for the 275/35 toyo's is 25.4... Rolling Diameter for the 265 Federal SS595 is 25.3... I prefer the Federal Tyres over the Toyo's by a long shot...

scsi 12-19-2007 10:52 PM

btw my car is not slammed lol. id love to run a 18x9.5 +35. aggressive setup tho, it will stick out about as much ash the 18x10 +41 in my picture

scsi 12-19-2007 10:56 PM

aggressive fitment means you gotta look at camber specs too

TragicallyHip 12-20-2007 09:39 PM

I went ahead and purchased the rims today... So now my quest begins for purchasing the tires... I am 100% sure I am going with Federal Tyres, but unsure of which size to go for...
18x8.5 (+35) and 18x9.5 (+35)

Federal SS595 Tyre Specs:
OD = Overall Diameter
SR = Standard Rim for such a tire
App Rim = Approved Rim sizes for each tire

----Size----| -OD-| SR | App Rim |
235/40-18 | 25.3 | 8.5 | 7.5 - 9 |
245/40-18 | 25.6 | 8.5 | 8 - 9.5 |
255/35-18 | 25.0 | 9.0 | 8.5 - 10 |
265/35-18 | 25.3 | 9.5 | 9 - 10.5 |

- My plan is originally to go 235/40-18 in the front, and 265/35-18 in the rear, but the whole rubbing issue obviously bothers me...
- I can run 255/35-18's on the front AND back rims...
- I can run 245/40-18's on the front AND back rims...

All of those combinations would allow me to keep the same rolling diameter in the front and back... Or I could go with something like a 235/40-18 in front and 255/35-18 in the rear and there would be a slight difference...

All situations put me off a bit from the stock Rolling Diamater, but as i've said previously, thats not really so much of an issue to me...


So all you staggered guys out there, what is your opinion on the best setup for me? I love the look of a nice wide tire in the back is my biggest obstacle here lol...

DrewMan 12-21-2007 06:32 AM

looking to get 18 x 9 +40

will that rub?

pdxhak 12-21-2007 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by DrewMan (Post 2203543)
looking to get 18 x 9 +40

will that rub?

depends on your tire size.

BigOLundh 12-21-2007 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by DrewMan (Post 2203543)
looking to get 18 x 9 +40

will that rub?

i ran a 17X9 +40 with...
255/40/17 on all 4

no rubbing issues and had plenty room to go wider with the tire.

rio_rx8 12-22-2007 05:42 AM

Ok heres another one....

I finally made my decision to get VoLk GTFs 19x9.5....the only problem is that vividracing offers many offsettings to include 40mm 42mm and 49mm...

which is best to fit my stock 8?

Thanks

Kane 12-22-2007 05:47 AM

Stock Offset is 50mm I think; so anything lower will push the wheel out farther; all of those offsets will fit without rubbing; depending on the tire size.

Whitehot 12-22-2007 08:15 AM

This isn't directed towards anyone in particular, but here's a bit of advice to add: figure out if the wheel and tire combo will fit BEFORE you buy it. Too many people here buy something first and then post here trying to find out if it actually fits or not. :banghead: (Another alternative is to put the damn wheels on the car and find out!)

rio_rx8 12-23-2007 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Whitehot (Post 2205179)
This isn't directed towards anyone in particular, but here's a bit of advice to add: figure out if the wheel and tire combo will fit BEFORE you buy it. Too many people here buy something first and then post here trying to find out if it actually fits or not. :banghead: (Another alternative is to put the damn wheels on the car and find out!)


Well...in my case...I'm puchasing the wheels online...i dont have the luxury to test fit the wheels...but thanks for the advice...

NgoRX8 12-23-2007 10:37 AM

no worries, im sure whitehot means, figure it out by either trying it on or asking on the forum before. a lot of people buy their wheels and then come to the forum to ask. and then they complain when it doesn't fit.

for your choices 19x9.5, i suggest doing +42 if you plan on running it all around. you won't have any problems running 265 tires.

rio_rx8 12-23-2007 10:44 AM

oh ok...

Thanks alot...ill try that n see how it goes...i just have to place the order n get those wheels to Guam...

eastaznboi 12-23-2007 09:39 PM

I'm planning to get 19x8.5 fronts and 19x9.5 rears
the sales rep says to go with 245/35/19 fronts and 275/35/19 rears
I'm lowered on s-techs.
what should the offsets be on the front and rear? I'm looking at adr m-sports, i think they only come in +35 and +45 offset for the fronts and only +35 in the rears.
any rubbing? and will my car need any shaving?

lurch519 12-23-2007 09:49 PM

im running 19 x 9.5 front and rear with 255/35-19 all the way around, lowered on eibach 1.2 drop and 40 offset on all 4. no rubbing, but the rear is cambered pretty agressivily (dont know the number, its where it set when i lowered it) but it barely misses rubbing, i cant stick my pinky finger in between tire and fender in back.

if you are going with a 275 rear, you will want to do at least a 45 or 50 offset, or else you will need to roll or shave your rear fender lips.

also, if you go with a staggered setup, you will be more likely to experience understeer when taking corners at speed

BigOLundh 12-24-2007 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by eastaznboi (Post 2206958)
I'm planning to get 19x8.5 fronts and 19x9.5 rears
the sales rep says to go with 245/35/19 fronts and 275/35/19 rears
I'm lowered on s-techs.
what should the offsets be on the front and rear? I'm looking at adr m-sports, i think they only come in +35 and +45 offset for the fronts and only +35 in the rears.
any rubbing? and will my car need any shaving?

put the +45 in the rear and the +35 in the front... that Negative 10 offset difference will help to balance the 12.5 mm you loose from going with a 1" (1" ~ 25mm... 25/2 = 12.5) smaller rim up front.

Dont listen to your sales rep. Theres no such thing as a "rear" and "front" offset. A rims a rim... and the right setup is the right setup. Also, clearly he doesnt understand how profiles work*

Also... if your going 245/35/19 in the front, you want 275/30/19 in the rear

So...
(F) 19X8.5 +35 - 245/35/19
(R) 19X9.5 +45 - 275/30/19

---------------------------------------------------------------

*Side Note:
The profile (sidewall) of your tire is calculated from the middle number in the set of 3, which is a percentage of the first number. For example... 275/30/19.
Tire Width = 275 millimeters.
Tire Height/Sidewall/Profile = 275*.30 = 82.5 millimeters
Rim Diameter = 19 inches

So width that... if you are 245/35/19... that means your profile is 85.75 mm (245*.35)

Width that you have two options...
A - 275/30/19 = 82.5 mm profile (275*.30)
B - 275/35/19 = 96.25 mm profile (275*.35)

Obviously you want option (A). Otherwise your rear tire will be 10.5 mm taller than your front tire. Which is a very noticeable difference/mistake



*hope that helps*

BigOLundh 12-24-2007 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by lurch519 (Post 2206969)
if you are going with a 275 rear, you will want to do at least a 45 or 50 offset, or else you will need to roll or shave your rear fender lips.

I ran a 275/30/19 rear on a 19X9.5+40 rim
no rubbing issues at all

1" Drop

lurch519 12-24-2007 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by BigOLundh (Post 2207950)
I ran a 275/30/19 rear on a 19X9.5+40 rim
no rubbing issues at all

1" Drop

did you roll your fenders?

im running 255/30 on the rear, and cant get my pinky between the fender and the tire.

well, if you are running a 275/35 on the rear, you might not have to as the tire is half an inch shorter than stock


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