Tein S techs different drop heights in two front wheels
So i think my passenger side has fully dropped now, it looks real nice, however i just measured the difference because i was sure the driveer side looked a bit off, and i measured from the out skirt of the wheel to the start of the fender. The passenger side is 3.5 inches and the drivers side is 4 inches, so a .5 inch difference.
My question is how to resolve this so they are both the same? thanks |
did you preload the springs?
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did you drop it with the a-arms bolts loose?
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Nah we didnt do that. You think if i loosen it, it will fix it?
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Well according to everything i read on the forum..
When you have everything installed, the a-arm is suppose to be loosened.. then lower the car so it puts load on them.. Then turn the wheel one way full lock and tighten the bolt that you can reach.. turn the wheel the otherway and tighten the otherside of the bolt.. Head to the otherside of the car and repeat the process. |
could be due to your accident? suspension dmg?
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hmm... i say try to preload it. it won't hurt.
if that doesn't work then there is something wrong. if there is any difference in height, it shouldn't be 0.5 inch. how's the rear Don? |
I havent actually looked at the rear. I'll have a look at that. Yeah Jedi thats what i'm worried about. I think its weird that its the drivers side too. I'm going to pre load and see what happens
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You guys said load :lol:
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loosen the a arm bolts. drive it around the block.. if you have speed bumps, bonus. tighten up bolts. it will also take a coupe of days for new springs to settle.
beers :beer: |
yeah i looked earlier the right side of the car is lower then the left, which is the side i hit the curb with. Which now worries me, but if there was something wrong with the suspension wouldnt it affect the allignment?
im gonna loosen the bolts tomorrow |
My S-tech's look like they have settled on the driver side but the passenger is about .5 inch higher.
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My S-techs are just settling after about a week (200 miles roughly). I had the same issue but it's pretty much gone now (maybe 2-3mm difference in drop side to side now). I did LOAD the suspension when putting things back together.
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oh well thats good to know that you guys have the same issue. This is why i want coilovers..... the ones i want are real expensive tho
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haha, I just reread that thread dills: aaahhhh, if only ProjectSE3P were here today to see the error in his ways. :)
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OK, Fill up your tank, loosen your A-arms, Put two of your heaver friends in on the passenger front and rear seats and your lighter two friends on the drivers side.
Now Preload your springs:lol2: |
^ Yep preload.
Also you need to measure the frame height from a flat surface. Only true surface to use is a lift. |
i pre loaded :)
me and my friend did it today, very nice results. i am just about to post a load of pics in the multimedia gallery. My friend had say a 3 finger gap before pre loading and after he had a 1 finger gap, you gotta love that and my technical work. Mine is now equal :) |
Your welcome :)
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Quick question(s) to those who have already installed (sorry to hijack)
is there a bump stop for each spring? how much needs to be cut off each one? in one thread i read someone cut off 3-4 inches.. then another i read only 1 inch.. Help Please. |
Originally Posted by DonJuanMair
(Post 2334292)
i pre loaded :)
me and my friend did it today, very nice results. i am just about to post a load of pics in the multimedia gallery. My friend had say a 3 finger gap before pre loading and after he had a 1 finger gap, you gotta love that and my technical work. Mine is now equal :) Glad it worked for you Don. |
thnaks jedi, for your patience in helping too
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Is there anyway to "preload" the rear? I've seen many different pics with S-Techs and mine appear to ride higher than most (but not all).
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Wow, I hate to say it, but "We told you so." ;) Glad you're finally dropped the correct amount. Now be carefull on those steep driveways... angles are your friend.
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lol i never disagreed to any of you though
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Okay so looking at it at bit more there is still a slight difference. Like .25 of an inch difference. I remember when my friend installed them he cut something. Do you think that maybe that those things were not cut equally on the drivers side as the passenger?
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I have contacted Tein about this i want to see what they have to say.
I dont want to start any arguements, i think everyone is entitled to their opinion etc. But after pre loading i dont think it made a difference to my drop. I believe that my springs had settled. I dont think that you HAVE to pre load. My car seemed to had settled on the one side fine without preloading. I still now have a .5 gap higher in the drivers side than i do in the passenger. I will let everyone know what Tein say |
After rereading all these "Pre-Loading" threads I deceided to re-do mine again after about a year and a half. This time front(2 top bolts) and the rear(5-6 points to adjust) on each side. Started first by markings alignment marks, loosen all points, sprayed lube, drove around the block and tighted. Wow! I think I got a additional 1/4-3/8" drop front & rear:)
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I don't think it's Tein's issue if the ride height isn't the same. they're springs should be the same, and it may just be the car.
I don't believe cutting the bumpstop will make a big difference in the drop. it's used to cushion on impact, not to affect height. then again, at this point... anything might help. lol |
silver surfer, you drove round the block?
how loose did you make the bolts? we did it so that when we unscrewed it you could hardly see the other side of the screw, but only just though. I just dont get in NGO thats why its bugging me so much |
Originally Posted by Silver_Surfer
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After rereading all these "Pre-Loading" threads I deceided to re-do mine again after about a year and a half. This time front(2 top bolts) and the rear(5-6 points to adjust) on each side. Started first by markings alignment marks, loosen all points, sprayed lube, drove around the block and tighted. Wow! I think I got a additional 1/4-3/8" drop front & rear:)
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Originally Posted by DonJuanMair
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silver surfer, you drove round the block?
how loose did you make the bolts? we did it so that when we unscrewed it you could hardly see the other side of the screw, but only just though. I just dont get in NGO thats why its bugging me so much you just have to loosen them.. and drive around the block or two. speed bumps are a plus.. it does make a difference.. beers :beer: |
[QUOTE=DOMINION;2332594]You guys said load :lol:[/QUOT
eh yea WOA! FIREE!! MI CASA |
Originally Posted by swoope
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i thought we covered that..
you just have to loosen them.. and drive around the block or two. speed bumps are a plus.. it does make a difference.. beers :beer: |
Just loosened past snug. I could feel the suspension shiftting around. Even thought the lugnuts were loose and stops to check. Make sure you index or mark the alignment points. Mine did shift around while driving.
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that will only happen if they weren't tightened properly in the first place
my news and improved load method is to unbolt one end link, loosen all the arm bolts at the chassis, place a jack under the lower ball joint, jack the suspension up to the nominal ride height, retighten the bolts, and reconnect the endlink after completing both sides. Much easier than doing it on the ground. Undoing the endlink frees the suspension on each side to compress independent of the other. |
^Yes, I loosen the bolts before pre-load & the drive around the block.
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im worried to do the driving round the block thing in case i mess my allignment up
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Originally Posted by DonJuanMair
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im worried to do the driving round the block thing in case i mess my allignment up
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if you got springs put on it would probably be a good idea to get an alignment anyways.
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Originally Posted by Silver_Surfer
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Make sure you mark your alignment marks so if they move you can set them back to where they were. BUT, even if you mark them you still might have to get your alignment rechecked because of the changes to your ride height.
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so tein replied to me with a very helpful response this is what they said
Thank you for your recent purchase. Sorry to hear you are experiencing issues with your vehicle. Minute differences in ride height from right to left can be experienced as a result of drivetrain orientation and weight distribution of the vehicle, however a of 0.5" differential would be of concern. We would recommend not operating the vehicle until any issue has been properly diagnosed and addressed. Please double check that all stock components being re-used are in place and operating properly, as the exclusion of necessary parts such as washers, rubber seats, or adapters can cause a difference in ride height. If the vehicle has been involved in a collision or if other suspension components such as bushings have become damaged or degraded, this could also cause a ride height changes. Please monitor tire pressure as well, as this can create inconsistencies as well. If you could provide photos of any component(s) of concern, as well as measurements from the center of the hub to the bottom of the highest point of the fender, we could better assist in deciphering any potential problems and recommending a course of action. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us at your convenience. |
Originally Posted by DonJuanMair
(Post 2333361)
oh well thats good to know that you guys have the same issue. This is why i want coilovers..... the ones i want are real expensive tho
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Originally Posted by DonJuanMair
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If the vehicle has been involved in a collision or if other suspension components such as bushings have become damaged or degraded, this could also cause a ride height changes. .
Don, My guess is this had something to do with it: http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSC00538.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSC00533.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSC00532.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSC00530.jpg |
uggh, so that's what happened. :(
well, i see two damage points on the rim which could mean it did impact your suspension. |
yeah......i think that may too, but i was reading around the internet earlier and a lot fo cars have the same problem that havent been in accidents.
If it is because of the accident, i just dont know how to resolve it apart from getting coilovers |
Originally Posted by NgoRX8
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uggh, so that's what happened. :(
well, i see two damage points on the rim which could mean it did impact your suspension. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSC00536.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSC00535.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r/DSC00534.jpg |
Originally Posted by DonJuanMair
(Post 2344388)
yeah......i think that may too, but i was reading around the internet earlier and a lot fo cars have the same problem that havent been in accidents.
If it is because of the accident, i just dont know how to resolve it apart from getting coilovers |
you need to fix the problem not mask it.
beers :beer: |
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