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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Tein basic coilovers

Well I'm looking into buying some tein basic coilovers sometime soon. I've been trying to research these coilovers but have not really found anything. Does anyone in here have the tein basics on their 8? If anyone does, let me know how it feels. Is the ride very hard? Any info on these coilovers will help.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by velocityredRX-8
Well I'm looking into buying some tein basic coilovers sometime soon. I've been trying to research these coilovers but have not really found anything. Does anyone in here have the tein basics on their 8? If anyone does, let me know how it feels. Is the ride very hard? Any info on these coilovers will help.
Nobody's had the ***** to go and get them yet because everyone is terrified the ride quality will be bad.

I know on Civics they ride like silk.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I'm interested in these too,how much will they let you drop the car or raise it?
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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I'm interested in these too,how much will they let you drop the car or raise it?
the drop can be about 1.3 in the front and .8 in the rear.
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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thats what my normal tein s-spec dropped my car...so whats the advatage of the basic coilover system over the regular s-specs?
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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So is it the full coilover system that gives you the choice to drop or raise the car 4 inches?
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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The Tein Basic has a few advantages to just springs

A) They are fully ride height adjustable - you can adjust them to any height within the parameters you want, independently, on all 4 corners

B) They are a higher spring rate than just regular springs

C) They come matched to proper shocks - if you drop the car a bit with springs but don't match the shocks, then you're operating outside the intended parameters for those shocks and its not a good thing - you should ALWAYS change shocks if you change springs.

D) The damper rates, while not adjustable, are probably a lot better than the stock car, and the dampers themselves are probably thicker.

E) Everything is ready to go, so you don't need to buy shocks and springs and put it all together.

Coilovers are ALWAYS the way to go - I'm just super-curious about the ride from these bad boys - as they can't POSSIBLY be any worse than my APEX'i N1's with 1000 lb springs (the rates are I think 440 front/330 rear) I'll probably just get them after my turbo is in.
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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The Tein Basic has a few advantages to just springs

A) They are fully ride height adjustable - you can adjust them to any height within the parameters you want, independently, on all 4 corners

B) They are a higher spring rate than just regular springs

C) They come matched to proper shocks - if you drop the car a bit with springs but don't match the shocks, then you're operating outside the intended parameters for those shocks and its not a good thing - you should ALWAYS change shocks if you change springs.

D) The damper rates, while not adjustable, are probably a lot better than the stock car, and the dampers themselves are probably thicker.

E) Everything is ready to go, so you don't need to buy shocks and springs and put it all together.

Coilovers are ALWAYS the way to go - I'm just super-curious about the ride from these bad boys - as they can't POSSIBLY be any worse than my APEX'i N1's with 1000 lb springs (the rates are I think 440 front/330 rear) I'll probably just get them after my turbo is in.

I want to get these since I'm having problems with the tanabe springs that I've installed. Being fed up with the problems that I've been having, I think that it's time to just get coilovers. Maybe I'll be the first to have them installed in my 8. :D
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by velocityredRX-8
I want to get these since I'm having problems with the tanabe springs that I've installed. Being fed up with the problems that I've been having, I think that it's time to just get coilovers. Maybe I'll be the first to have them installed in my 8. :D
at $799, its hard to beat for a set of full coilovers

let us know how they go!
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:09 AM
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You can download the install instructions off tein's site. Make sure to check the rx8 instructions before ordering. On the 6, for both the basic and SS sets, you have to remove part of the front stock assembly (PITA) and transfer it to the tein set. Pretty big load of bs for a setup that costs 1400+ USD. Its not a "swap in/out" setup on the 6 at least, so make sure before ordering!
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by crossbow
You can download the install instructions off tein's site. Make sure to check the rx8 instructions before ordering. On the 6, for both the basic and SS sets, you have to remove part of the front stock assembly (PITA) and transfer it to the tein set. Pretty big load of bs for a setup that costs 1400+ USD. Its not a "swap in/out" setup on the 6 at least, so make sure before ordering!
Coilovers like JIC, tein, and maybe the HKS require you to remove some of the stock parts and transfer them to the coilovers. The JIC require that you remove the upper cone from the rear stock assembly and transfer them to the JIC coilovers. I think the fronts are just a direct replacement though.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Here's a quick question -

Do the Tein Basics have upper pillow ball mounts? Cuz if they do they'll ride like ****.
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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http://www.tein.com/ti/inst/lm58u.pdf

The swap is not direct. You have to dismantle the front assembly's and transfer parts to the tein's. Same with the rear. Its depressing that they can't make them in single assembly's for the price your paying.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:31 AM
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wow so 1.3 and .8 is the lowest they can go??
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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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u, i have teins type flex and i can go anywhere between .5 inch HIGHER than stock to about 3 inches LOWER than stock. there is such a thing called "overlowering" so dont look at ur choices as to which set lowers it more. fully adjustable coilovers are just that...adjustable.

my type flex was a simple remove and replace issue, dont kno what the commotion is about the tein basics. dont ask me. imo, spend the extra $ and get a better setup from tein, they offer many coilovers depending on what setup u want. personally, the tein basics are just that


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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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We are having the Tein coilovers installed within the next three weeks.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RoXanneBlack8
u, i have teins type flex and i can go anywhere between .5 inch HIGHER than stock to about 3 inches LOWER than stock. there is such a thing called "overlowering" so dont look at ur choices as to which set lowers it more. fully adjustable coilovers are just that...adjustable.

my type flex was a simple remove and replace issue, dont kno what the commotion is about the tein basics. dont ask me. imo, spend the extra $ and get a better setup from tein, they offer many coilovers depending on what setup u want. personally, the tein basics are just that


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first of all this thread is about the tein basics, not the flex. i personnaly do not intend to "overlower" my car, but i want to know the range. i know the main differences between flex and basics. i know that they are just basic, thats why i want them. i dont know about you, but the actual skill is more important to me, i dont need to spend money on the fancy **** when i know a good driver will win over some tein flex.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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first of all this thread is about the tein basics, not the flex. i personnaly do not intend to "overlower" my car, but i want to know the range. i know the main differences between flex and basics. i know that they are just basic, thats why i want them. i dont know about you, but the actual skill is more important to me, i dont need to spend money on the fancy **** when i know a good driver will win over some tein flex.
he was just telling you what he thought & what he knew. he said "imo", meaning 'in my opinion'... he didn't try to make it sound like it was fact, so chill out... the man is trying to help you.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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sorry perhaps i overracted. it felt very condescending to me....
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Old May 14, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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not my intention bro. buy whatever u want its your money dont let anyone tell u what to do. i was just giving u info from my experience bc i own the type flex and thought itd share. just givin my 2 cents. sorry

the type flex have a seperate adjustment from the spring perch to the lower shell case. u can adjust the height by moving the lower case w/o preloading the spring.

with the basics, its my understanding that u need to preload the spring in order to change ride height. there is no seperate case to spin up or down to change the height, so u must preload the spring. that is not the suggested way to lower a car. thus explains the price difference. imo, if ur gonna spend 1100 on coilovers that preload a spring, why not spend another 400 or so and get ones with seperate shell cases?

just giving my input

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Old May 15, 2006 | 01:31 AM
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my buddy got the basic on his integra, it is very good product, everything is well made. the ride is very comfortable, it is made for street use.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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did anyone ever get these installed on an 8?
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Coilovers are ALWAYS the way to go - I'm just super-curious about the ride from these bad boys - as they can't POSSIBLY be any worse than my APEX'i N1's with 1000 lb springs (the rates are I think 440 front/330 rear) I'll probably just get them after my turbo is in.
Not always - read post 9 and 10 of the thread below for some feedback on Tein Basics and Koni/Tein setup.

https://www.rx8club.com/driven-performance-equipment-98/konis-tein-spring-specials%3B-package-deals-too-95369/
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Not always - read post 9 and 10 of the thread below for some feedback on Tein Basics and Koni/Tein setup.

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=95369
Agreed, I've also had GREAT luck with the Konis and Mazdaspeed springs (which have the stiffest spring rates but least drop)
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by velocityredRX-8
Well I'm looking into buying some tein basic coilovers sometime soon. I've been trying to research these coilovers but have not really found anything. Does anyone in here have the tein basics on their 8? If anyone does, let me know how it feels. Is the ride very hard? Any info on these coilovers will help.
if your not going to track the car i don't see the need for coilovers? shocks & springs would do fine
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