Why did mazda choose 225 width?
Why did they choose 225 over the 245 most here like to use. Just curious. Thanks.
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you should be more concerned about commanding a soft landing …
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...319fdb5df0.gif . |
"New to drifting"... "Need the rear to be able to break loose upon command"... "Mountain pass runs on the downhill"...
Tire width should be the least of your concerns. |
Oh man. Bunch of dorks here. Nice header theory thread teamrx8.
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Simplified my OP so I can get a better answer. Thanks
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Who knows why Mazda decided something 18 years ago. Maybe it was a cost thing, maybe they needed to take into consideration aquaplaning risk.
225 is OK if you're using the right compound for the job. I dunno about "most" here, I didn't like 245 for road course all that much. Was it the size or the tire model? We'll never know. Drive it and see, there's no magic formula that works for all drivers for all circuits. Also drop the attitude if you want help. |
Originally Posted by Loki
(Post 4963844)
Who knows why Mazda decided something 18 years ago. Maybe it was a cost thing, maybe they needed to take into consideration aquaplaning risk.
225 is OK if you're using the right compound for the job. I dunno about "most" here, I didn't like 245 for road course all that much. Was it the size or the tire model? We'll never know. Drive it and see, there's no magic formula that works for all drivers for all circuits. Also drop the attitude if you want help. Why didn't you like the 245s on the road course? |
The 245s I had were Rivals. They were OK but felt.. sluggish in situations where I expected more response - trail braking and throttle steering. Went with 235 RS4s after and no regrets. Apples and oranges, but I think that's my point. Size is not an absolute and the question doesn't make sense as a result. Start somewhere and see what you want to improve.
If you're putting this on stock wheels that's another thing. I'm talking about tires on 17" race wheels, more sidewall, less weight. Your results might be completely different. |
trust me, it was barely even a flicker, let alone a flame. :suspect:
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Originally Posted by Loki
(Post 4963870)
The 245s I had were Rivals. They were OK but felt.. sluggish in situations where I expected more response - trail braking and throttle steering. Went with 235 RS4s after and no regrets. Apples and oranges, but I think that's my point. Size is not an absolute and the question doesn't make sense as a result. Start somewhere and see what you want to improve.
If you're putting this on stock wheels that's another thing. I'm talking about tires on 17" race wheels, more sidewall, less weight. Your results might be completely different. |
Thanks for your suggestions. I also want to know whether the stock tire width good for the TOUGE and thanks to all of you for the answer.
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Haha this thread made my day!
In my experience with stock wheels and tyres this combo is about right unless pushing the car hard. When i went to 235/ 40 the car the car felt like it was on rails. So i never bothered with 245 as i think it would be over tyred for the amount if power on NA. FI probably a different story that i have no experience with. Also the 235/ 40 size is really common and therefore cheaper where i live anyway! |
Originally Posted by XDragon8
(Post 4964306)
Haha this thread made my day!
In my experience with stock wheels and tyres this combo is about right unless pushing the car hard. When i went to 235/ 40 the car the car felt like it was on rails. So i never bothered with 245 as i think it would be over tyred for the amount if power on NA. FI probably a different story that i have no experience with. Also the 235/ 40 size is really common and therefore cheaper where i live anyway! |
Im on stock wheels. 235/40 tyre poke barely protects wheel lips. So the wheels dont get scratched when you lay a wheel on its side while checking brakes etc. Not the case for 225/ 45 which did scratch the wheels, just annoying when you make sure not to curb your wheels when driving! 😉
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Originally Posted by XDragon8
(Post 4964320)
Im on stock wheels. 235/40 tyre poke barely protects wheel lips. So the wheels dont get scratched when you lay a wheel on its side while checking brakes etc. Not the case for 225/ 45 which did scratch the wheels, just annoying when you make sure not to curb your wheels when driving! 😉
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Same here.
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Originally Posted by CharlesCutler
(Post 4966309)
Same here.
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more like a butter knife choice than a scalpel though :squint: typical these days
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
(Post 4966324)
more like a butter knife choice than a scalpel though :squint: typical these days
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Originally Posted by Fiftyfifty
(Post 4964341)
I hear ya but I'm looking to minimize sidewall flex in corners. Looking for scalpel like precision.
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
(Post 4966324)
more like a butter knife choice than a scalpel though :squint: typical these days
. Factory stock is 225 on 8”, but you talked about a scalpel and then your action equates it to 245; which is almost 1” wider that 225, on only a 1/2” wider wheel? believe it or not, some people on here actually pay attention 🧐 . |
Originally Posted by TeamRX8
(Post 4966360)
Factory stock is 225 on 8”, but you talked about a scalpel and then your action equates it to 245; which is almost 1” wider that 225, on only a 1/2” wider wheel?
believe it or not, some people on here actually pay attention 🧐 . https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...0fbd6739a9.jpg |
If you'd put the 235 tire on the 8.5 wheel you would had even more stretched tire on the contact surface, even more precision. A 245 tire would stretch nicely on a wider wheel.
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Originally Posted by peloponisios
(Post 4966653)
If you'd put the 235 tire on the 8.5 wheel you would had even more stretched tire on the contact surface, even more precision. A 245 tire would stretch nicely on a wider wheel.
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I’ll revise that from a butter knife to some raw, unprocessed metal ore … :suspect:
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was going through some old files though and saw these pics from back in 2007 when I put SSR Comp-C 18x10.5+43 wheels with 265/35-18 tires on my RX8.
Don't cut yourself ... :suspect: https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...46cd608114.jpg . https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...7bb97ebdb4.jpg . https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...906b818ae3.jpg . https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...26ba8cfa2f.jpg . https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...264fb56c28.jpg . |
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