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Old 04-10-2007, 02:45 PM
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I just had my Tanabe NF210's installed today - dealership quoted $550, plus $80 for alignment. I found a local shop that did it for $300 plus $75 or alignment with guidance and the DIY from this forum
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jax_RX8
I just had my Tanabe NF210's installed today - dealership quoted $550, plus $80 for alignment. I found a local shop that did it for $300 plus $75 or alignment with guidance and the DIY from this forum
Thanks Jax

dumb question...are those prices including the price of the springs or is that just for install labor? I was going to order the springs themselves from DPE (thinking Tein basics at this point) then get them installed locally.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:38 PM
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I would say the $300+ whatever an alignment costs sounds about right. It shouldn't take a competent shop more than four hours, which at $75/hr means $300 or so. And be it springs, shocks and springs, or a coilover kit, the cost should be the same as far as labor. And the prices I'm showing are JUST labor costs.

FWIW, coilovers are a bit easier to install quickly as you don't have to compress the springs for the install (just lower the spring seat, install the tophat, and set the spring seat to the proper height), and for something like Tein Flex with their own upper mounts, it's even more straightforward as there's no disassembly of the OEM 'coilover'.
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I unfortunately can vouche for the dealership being the higher install price!

I do however LOVE the Tein Basics on my car! Can't wait to hit the Dragon next week!
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Old 04-21-2008, 06:16 AM
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glad i found this thread..
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:06 PM
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pm me with price of the GFs...im lookin for springs
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:25 PM
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pm me with price of the GFs...im lookin for springs
he is no longer in business.

you might try one of our other forum vendors. or send a pm to charles hill...

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Old 08-01-2008, 06:42 PM
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dozer: DPE shut down a little ago. Check with Charles R. Hill.
He's on the road for a few days but send him a PM and he'll get back to you.

If I talk to him in the next day or two, I'll get a price for ya
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dozer: DPE shut down a little ago. Check with Charles R. Hill.
He's on the road for a few days but send him a PM and he'll get back to you.

If I talk to him in the next day or two, I'll get a price for ya
If you follow the link in Vendors (think that's where I saw it) to the dpe site, then follow the link to Phil's "History of dpe", you will read a very interesting story from someone who seems like one of the good guys. Sad story but not a new one, unfortunately.
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:21 PM
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http://www.dpeweb.com/DPEStory.aspx

sad indeed, Phil was a pleasure to do business with.
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stuck to see if this is the right one.
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Old 01-31-2009, 08:13 PM
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thanks for bringing this thread back Zoom, this has some great info in it.
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54 View Post
thanks for bringing this thread back Zoom, this has some great info in it.
While this thread has a ton of useful info, I'm wondering what the most popular setup is? Are most people using springs on OEM shocks, getting coilovers or doing aftermarket shock/springs? Is there a thread where people are posting what they have and maybe pics too?

Thanks
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what's the difference in ride height between the koni setup with h-techs and the basics?

that's really the dealbreaker for me, because i'm soon to be rollin' on 17x10's.
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:26 PM
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what would be a good spring to go with the tein basic coilover kit? i dont want a big drop i was thinking about racing beats spring?? I want to be able to race on the track in the summer but i have pretty crappy roads here in MN. suggestions.. thank you
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Old 03-06-2009, 07:29 PM
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what would be a good spring to go with the tein basic coilover kit? i dont want a big drop i was thinking about racing beats spring?? I want to be able to race on the track in the summer but i have pretty crappy roads here in MN. suggestions.. thank you
Um. The springs that come with the Tein basic coilover kit.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:17 AM
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In case you didn't read through shaunv's sarcasm, the idea of a "coilover" is that you get the shock and spring in one package. The Tein Basics are adjustable for height so you can play with that once you have them mounted (although it can get expensive with a realignment each time).
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Old 03-07-2009, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 7andan8 View Post
In case you didn't read through shaunv's sarcasm, the idea of a "coilover" is that you get the shock and spring in one package. The Tein Basics are adjustable for height so you can play with that once you have them mounted (although it can get expensive with a realignment each time).
ok thanks i guess i missed that.... lot of info at once. thanks guys
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I am a car lowering noob, so had some basic questions. I want to pick up a set of springs, but was concerned with having to purchase a camber kit. I ask this because when I was thinkin about lowering my last car, everyone was recommending to get a camber kit to adjust for the drop in ride. Any suggestions?
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:09 AM
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You won't need a camber kit if all you're looking to do is drop your 8. The camber kit only comes into play if you're setting the alignment
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:18 AM
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Lowering the ride height on this car will actually allow you to get more camber than stock. That is a good thing.

Either way though you should be able to get a stock alignment setting as long as you don't go lower than 1". If you do you'll just have to make due with a little more negative camber. Which is a good thing in this case for more cornering power.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:58 PM
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thanks for all your help guys, its greatly appreciated, i'll post pics when i get the job done, but it won't be for a while...
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Old 04-09-2009, 03:46 PM
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any deals of s tech? or even sprint springs
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:40 AM
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Noobish questions...

I'm hoping to get some relatively stiff springs, moreso that most of the ones you guys have been talking about, but the two stiffest springs mentioned here weren't reviewed. Seems like the Mazdaspeed kit is just too damn expensive to review. I mean, I'm really looking at the Tokico DSP setup that's around that stiffness because it's way cheaper and adjustable, but I'd like to know how the car reacts to that weight spring.

Also, Megan Racing makes this height adjustable kit for the RX-8:
http://www.meganracing.com/products/...d=470&catid=93
They're definitely harder than I'd like to go (450lb/in front, 337 rear), but still not quite 800lb track springs, so I'm still considering them.

What do you guys think of springs in this range?

Also, I believe it's been stated that any level of drop more than 1" means the stock suspension can't be realigned to normal levels of camber. What've you guys found on this front? (not that I'm looking to lower my car more than than)
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anyone have the specs on the bilstein pss9's?
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