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Im in cedar rapids every other weekend. There is a few people there with eight's as well. You should come by and check the cars out. Just search for cedar valley rx8 club on facebook.. lol. OK back to topic and sorry for the thread hijack.
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Well I learned a good lesson with tires for snow driving in Colorado for the RX. I bought the Potenza's Pole position All Season tires OEM 18 in wheels. I found out yesterday driving it in the snow around the neighborhood that this tire combo is a total waste of money. The car is a whimp in the snow. It fish tails and it got totally stuck in just few inches of snow when I parked it. It would not pull out into the street and just went side ways. Embarrassing to drive a car like this with brand new all season tires and the low profile wheels. Not a good match to snow at all. This morning the streets were just ice and it drove ok over the ice and taking it easy and slow and allowing lots of stopping room. So now when it snows just an inch I am without a car because it just isn't safe to drive. Cornering is horriable and it can't go in a straight path without the car swaying light coming on. Bummer. I was going to get Blizzacks but they were a few hundred more than the All Seasons. This tire was evauated as excellent in Consumer's Reports too. I must say that is good for a regular car perhaps but never for an RX-8. I guess the best thing now to do is save up in a couple years either for a stand by 4 WD something or buy 17" wheels and Blizzacks. Then I still would hate to fork out all that money again only to see the car go side ways in the snow. I've seen several on here say their RX works good in the snow so I wanted to see if mine would. NOT. I just hope we don't get many snows around here or I might have to take the bus or find some other transportation. Yes I now know the hard way that wide tires in the snow is creating more resistance and thus not good traction or none at all.
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It's all in the tires. Some work, some don't. The RX8 isn't any different from anyother rear wheel drive car.
We got a couple of inches of snow overnight and I didn't have any problems. I don't want an extra set of wheels dedicated to snow, so I use all-season tires. The first set I had for a couple of years was recommended by Omicron. They were Pirelli PZero Nero M&S. He is from Colorado and he loved them. They were just OK in the snow, great in the dry. I just got a set of Continental ContiExtremeContact from the Tire Rack. They did great this morning.
We got a couple of inches of snow overnight and I didn't have any problems. I don't want an extra set of wheels dedicated to snow, so I use all-season tires. The first set I had for a couple of years was recommended by Omicron. They were Pirelli PZero Nero M&S. He is from Colorado and he loved them. They were just OK in the snow, great in the dry. I just got a set of Continental ContiExtremeContact from the Tire Rack. They did great this morning.
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These tires were scored excellent by Consumers Reports and others also recommened although Tire Rack only showed the Pirelli's I think and of course the Blizzacks. I thought Omicon used Blizzacks but must have tried the Pirellis then later on. I am with you. I just don't like nor think its necessary to go with a complete set of winter tires such as snow tires and new wheels and then go in the Spring and Summer on different wheels. I know that the snow we had in Colorado yesterday was the worst kind. Thick, heavy wet slushy stuff and just about any vehicle will need to be careful in that stuff. Just is, my drive way had less than 1/2 inch and the car could not even make it up a slight incline which really puzzled me. So although the tires I have are highly recommended and very expensive, about $895 for four from Firestone, I might try another set of All Seasons when these wear out in a few years. They are 40,000 tires so should last awhile hopefully. When this car is paid off I will get me a second vehicle for these conditions such as a used Honda CRV. I just wasn't impressed yesterday with this sort of driving experience with this car. Meanwhile, when Consumers sends me their yearly form to fill out, these tires are going to get a bad report from me. Then it could have been with any 18 inch low profile tire so it might not be accurate but I'll report my experience with these. Wonder if anyone else on here used the OEM Pole Position All Seasons yet?
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Hello, I live in buffalo NY and we just had our first decent snow, about 2 inches tonight. It was packed down and some roads unplowed. heres my setup:
2005 rx-8 mt
225/17inch blizzak ws 60
This is my first year in a rwd car and my first year with a manual transmission, i got my rx-8 in mid august.
Theres only one word to describe this setup in winter, BRILLIANT. its lightyears beyond my cavalier with all seasons. Its winter you drive smart with lots of space between other drivers, you know how your car handles but you dont know what another driver will do I don't see myself having any trouble.
I also did some testing with dsc in our local abbandoned parking lots seems that if you are in low speeds 30 mph or less you can turn faster and have more controll with the dsc off. If i was sliding i had no problems pulling out of the slide with a bit of countersteer. However if your going faster than that the dsc does a fantastic job of keeping you going in a straight line and feels a bit safer than driving without it.
Braking is also fantastic I could stop alot sooner than my friend in his dodge magnum.
2005 rx-8 mt
225/17inch blizzak ws 60
This is my first year in a rwd car and my first year with a manual transmission, i got my rx-8 in mid august.
Theres only one word to describe this setup in winter, BRILLIANT. its lightyears beyond my cavalier with all seasons. Its winter you drive smart with lots of space between other drivers, you know how your car handles but you dont know what another driver will do I don't see myself having any trouble.
I also did some testing with dsc in our local abbandoned parking lots seems that if you are in low speeds 30 mph or less you can turn faster and have more controll with the dsc off. If i was sliding i had no problems pulling out of the slide with a bit of countersteer. However if your going faster than that the dsc does a fantastic job of keeping you going in a straight line and feels a bit safer than driving without it.
Braking is also fantastic I could stop alot sooner than my friend in his dodge magnum.
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I wanted to throw in a few words.
Last year I drove my RX-8 on stocks on snow and discovered that even a tad bit of powdery snow was enough to make the 8 a rollercoaster ride.
I threw on some Winter Sport M3's a couple weeks ago, and had both an ICE storm and a snow storm here. The Rx-8 was smoking jeeps, SUV's, and an assortment of other cars.
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. Best money I ever spent on my car.
Last year I drove my RX-8 on stocks on snow and discovered that even a tad bit of powdery snow was enough to make the 8 a rollercoaster ride.
I threw on some Winter Sport M3's a couple weeks ago, and had both an ICE storm and a snow storm here. The Rx-8 was smoking jeeps, SUV's, and an assortment of other cars.
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. Best money I ever spent on my car.
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Yep, it's all about 'where the rubber meets the road.'
Machine Road Interface as it were.
Machine Road Interface as it were.
I wanted to throw in a few words.
Last year I drove my RX-8 on stocks on snow and discovered that even a tad bit of powdery snow was enough to make the 8 a rollercoaster ride.
I threw on some Winter Sport M3's a couple weeks ago, and had both an ICE storm and a snow storm here. The Rx-8 was smoking jeeps, SUV's, and an assortment of other cars.
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. Best money I ever spent on my car.
Last year I drove my RX-8 on stocks on snow and discovered that even a tad bit of powdery snow was enough to make the 8 a rollercoaster ride.
I threw on some Winter Sport M3's a couple weeks ago, and had both an ICE storm and a snow storm here. The Rx-8 was smoking jeeps, SUV's, and an assortment of other cars.
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. Best money I ever spent on my car.
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Last year I drove my RX-8 on stocks on snow and discovered that even a tad bit of powdery snow was enough to make the 8 a rollercoaster ride.
I threw on some Winter Sport M3's a couple weeks ago, and had both an ICE storm and a snow storm here. The Rx-8 was smoking jeeps, SUV's, and an assortment of other cars.
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. Best money I ever spent on my car.
I threw on some Winter Sport M3's a couple weeks ago, and had both an ICE storm and a snow storm here. The Rx-8 was smoking jeeps, SUV's, and an assortment of other cars.
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. Best money I ever spent on my car.
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I dont know why people are even trying to drive without snow tires. I just got some for my rx8.. I bought a set from discouttiredirect with some cheap wheels and hankook winter ipike w409 tires and its great. here in sandy utah we had about 6-8 inches on the street (uphill) and I drove up without a single issue while a few other fwd and suv's were struggling (Even a subaru (awd)). not to mention the increased stopping and turning grip. Of course, if I want to get it swirly at all its not hard but overall the tires are great and I fear others hitting me much mroe then I fear the driving itself
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I found a set of 4 nokias, 70-80% tread for cheap, and some 17 inch rims for them. I got 2 mounted and then found out the dent in one of the rims was too big to have a tire mounted. Dirt cheap rims, so I am not crying, but it did put me in the situation of having winters tires on my rears and my summers on the front. Not recommended, not ideal, etc... but in the snow, better than 4 summers.
Yesterday it was amazing the difference between the 2 ends of the car in the snow. I could get moving with ease, though I had to keep speed really low to keep the front end under control, and I stopped by an empty parkinglot to test out the real difference and the limits, and I found I could stop faster in the snow using just the parking brake than I could with the standard pedal. Fronts would lock up and abs would trigger in a heartbeat, keeping more braking power from the rears. Rears were solid under downshifting and e-braking. (not locking, just using it to slow down).
I am looking for a replacement rim so I can get the front on winters too, still unnerving with the unbalance, but the difference was incredible.
Yesterday it was amazing the difference between the 2 ends of the car in the snow. I could get moving with ease, though I had to keep speed really low to keep the front end under control, and I stopped by an empty parkinglot to test out the real difference and the limits, and I found I could stop faster in the snow using just the parking brake than I could with the standard pedal. Fronts would lock up and abs would trigger in a heartbeat, keeping more braking power from the rears. Rears were solid under downshifting and e-braking. (not locking, just using it to slow down).
I am looking for a replacement rim so I can get the front on winters too, still unnerving with the unbalance, but the difference was incredible.
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Advice on (Yokohama) Snow Tires
[INDENT]Good day folks, I live in Victoria, B.C., where it USED to snow about two days every three years; this year, Victoria was the snowiest city in Canada @ Christmas, and we couldn't even get the RX-8 out of the subdivision; the Mazda6 w/ All-Season radials had no problem on snow - it handles pretty much anything (except black ice, and there's nothing you can drive on that, without having very large studs), but that cuts us down to one vehicle between two people with different places to go at the same time; so: with Victoria being sold out of just about every winter tire there is (in 225/45R18 anyway), I basically have a choice of Yokohama W.Drives or IceGuard 20's.[INDENT]My question is: does anyone have any experience with either of these tires? I cannot find a Consumer Report on winter Yokohamas; Michelin X-Ice Xi2's seem to be the most poular snow tire (although, anecdotally the Dunlop SP Winter Sport M3 V's seem popular, even though CR gives them a mediocre rating). What with 'global climate change', I think Victoria's days of being snow-free for all but a few days each year are gone - at least that is what the last three years are saying. [INDENT]Any advice would be greatly appreciated;
Thanks to all
Thanks to all
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Whew!!! Just took me 2 Hours to go 20 miles here in CT this afternoon. I must admit it was very slick. I've got Dunlop Wintersport M3's mounted on my winter rims. Up hills were hairy, but parking lots were a blast Hope everyone else gets home safe.
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I'm running 17" Graspics for my winter setup and twice now I've found myself blowing by front wheel drive jobbers... heck, this morning I even passed a jeep.
Granted a lot of it is bad timing (ignorance) on the part of the other driver, but between DSC, TSC, ABS, LSD, and my Graspics, I have a hard time not staying straight. I've found myself trying to get sideways a number of times over the past couple months to only get straightened out by the car and graspics.
Knock on wood for the sake of superstition.... I've had really good luck this year with my 8 and winter setup.
Granted a lot of it is bad timing (ignorance) on the part of the other driver, but between DSC, TSC, ABS, LSD, and my Graspics, I have a hard time not staying straight. I've found myself trying to get sideways a number of times over the past couple months to only get straightened out by the car and graspics.
Knock on wood for the sake of superstition.... I've had really good luck this year with my 8 and winter setup.
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Me too. I'm just north of Philly myself, and I've used Pirelli snow tires for five winters now and just LOVE them. I've had the rear tires slip sideways a few times, but if I just ease up and give the car a second or two it always rights itself.
It's wonderful in really cold, powdery snow. But where I've had problems is in slushy stuff. I guess the wider sports-car tires don't help much there, as it feels like it just floats rather than digs through.
It's wonderful in really cold, powdery snow. But where I've had problems is in slushy stuff. I guess the wider sports-car tires don't help much there, as it feels like it just floats rather than digs through.
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Hey guys i just got the best deal on winter tires i got 4 brand new Dunlop winter sport M3 245/40/18 for $300 I couldn't be happier the guy also balanced and mounted them on my oem rims for free. I think thats has been the best investment for my 8.
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winter tire size
Is everyone buying winter snow tires, rather than all weathers, stepping down to 17" tires or staying with the OEM size 18s? i've read some sticking with 18s in regions where roads are not snow covered throughout the winter but only occasionally from light snow and slush.
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Yay winter!
I just bought some Hankook Winter iPike W409 215/55R-17 94T BLK along with 4 MB Wheels Five X 17X7 5-100/114 42GBM off of Discounttiredirect. Anyone heard anything on these tires? They look really beefy and can even be studded I believe... even though I think studded tires are illegal in MA >.>
They had a great package deal 848$ that I couldn't pass up.. Merry Christmas to me!
They had a great package deal 848$ that I couldn't pass up.. Merry Christmas to me!
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http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...=17&vid=008436
I didn't get the TMPS, and got the spare lugs, and total was 855$
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