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cidvicious831 02-18-2010 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by OchoShinka (Post 3436135)
Meh, I still like the car just the same. Just means I have to add the Bilstein struts myself now.

you gotta change your name!! hahaha!

JinDesu 02-18-2010 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by OchoShinka (Post 3436135)
Meh, I still like the car just the same. Just means I have to add the Bilstein struts myself now.

(If someone can double check or correct me here, but...)
I don't think our cars have "struts", per se. We have shocks. The reason I say this is because I've read how "strut bars" don't really do much for our cars.

The Bilstein shocks in the Shinka may be better than the stocks, but they are in no means the same as the aftermarket Bilstein's. To illustrate the point, our normal shocks are Tokico branded OEMs. The Bilstein's used in the Shinkas are Bilstein branded OEMs.

Getting the aftermarket Bilstein shocks will definitely be a great upgrade - even compared to the Shinkas.


Originally Posted by Lord ET (Post 3436136)
you can always check the VIN

I sent him the list, I think he did.

Huey52 02-18-2010 08:57 AM

Black Cherry Mica (code 28W) is unique to the 2005 Shinka edition, as is its "parchment" tan full leather.

However, the 2004 Miata came in Radiant Ebony that has the same 28W color code.

The 2009 Mazda6 came in a somewhat similar, but different code, Black Cherry Metallic.

edit: the 2005 Shinka has Tokico (Hitachi) shocks. "Struts" in this context are just another name for shocks (or dampers). First coined by McPherson. We also technically have "coil overs" since the springs are over the shocks, but that term is better applied to truly integral shocks/springs.



Originally Posted by JinDesu (Post 3434988)
That's a little confusing. The 2005 Shinka came in Black Cherry (dark cherry). I do not believe Black Cherry is a normal production color.
The 2006 Shinka was a trim level that was made on VR, WWP, and Galaxy Grey RX-8s. Those three colors are normal production colors.

The normal GT leather seats are black. The 2005 Shinka had Tan leather seats. The 2006 Shinka's had leather/alcantara seats. The one's I've seen commonly are white leather with white alcantara. I don't know if there are other color leather/alcantara seats.

Edit* Misspelled alcantara as alacantra.


JinDesu 02-18-2010 09:16 AM

^woopsies, I should have double-checked what the Shinka actually had. The reason I bought the shocks vs struts up was because I didn't feel comfortable interchanging the two terms. Thanks for the explanation

And thanks for the info on the paint colors, Black Cherry is HAWTNESS.

AJ's Shinka 02-18-2010 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by JinDesu (Post 3434988)
That's a little confusing. The 2005 Shinka came in Black Cherry (dark cherry). I do not believe Black Cherry is a normal production color.

The 2006 Shinka was a trim level that was made on VR, WWP, and Galaxy Grey RX-8s. Those three colors are normal production colors.

The normal GT leather seats are black. The 2005 Shinka had Tan leather seats. The 2006 Shinka's had leather/alcantara seats. The one's I've seen commonly are white leather with white alcantara. I don't know if there are other color leather/alcantara seats.

Edit* Misspelled alcantara as alacantra.

You forgot the 06 Copper Red Mica Shinka the only year the Copper Red came out!

They never made it in Velocity Red, the colors for 06 Shinka's were Copper Red, WWP, Galaxy Grey, and Black.

btw copper red is the true shinka of 06. The copper red stitching on the white leather seats is copper red.:aroused:

JinDesu 02-18-2010 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by AJ's Shinka (Post 3437345)
You forgot the 06 Copper Red Mica Shinka the only year the Copper Red came out!

They never made it in Velocity Red, the colors for 06 Shinka's were Copper Red, WWP, Galaxy Grey, and Black.

btw copper red is the true shinka of 06. The copper red stitching on the white leather seats is copper red.:aroused:

Sorry! Mistook Copper Red for VR!

I WANTZ WHITE LEATHER SEATS :cussing:

If that's the case, I'm thinking Copper Red is a unique color as well? I don't remember there being another Red besides VR. I know WWP, Galaxy Grey, and BB are normal colors.

Huey52 02-19-2010 07:16 AM

Next to BCM, the Copper Red is my favorite, and yes it was a one-time unique Shinka color as well.

ZumnRx8 02-19-2010 08:06 AM

to the Op... I do have aftermarket 20" wheels.. however.. the outside diameter remains the same when compareed to stock.... And people always think Im lowered......Im on OEM stuff and My car also sits lower than other stock 8's... dont know what it is but I guess Im in the same boat as you.

OchoShinka 02-20-2010 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Huey52 (Post 3436834)
Black Cherry Mica (code 28W) is unique to the 2005 Shinka edition, as is its "parchment" tan full leather.

However, the 2004 Miata came in Radiant Ebony that has the same 28W color code.

The 2009 Mazda6 came in a somewhat similar, but different code, Black Cherry Metallic.

edit: the 2005 Shinka has Tokico (Hitachi) shocks. "Struts" in this context are just another name for shocks (or dampers). First coined by McPherson. We also technically have "coil overs" since the springs are over the shocks, but that term is better applied to truly integral shocks/springs.


I hate to type something I am uncertain of. Trying to research if the 8 has struts or shocks and I get a yes on both. Some websites list them as shocks, others at struts, others say struts up front...shocks in rear(most FWD vehicles are configured like this). I honestly can't say for certain if they are shocks or struts or a combo. I just know the car handles insanely well :-)

I want to research this further so we know for sure. I did not take pics yet, haven't charged my camera and it's been overcast here. Actually rained this morning but it's suppose to clear up by tomorrow afternoon, we will see how the weather looks and I'll take pics.

chiketkd 02-21-2010 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by OchoShinka (Post 3440513)
I hate to type something I am uncertain of. Trying to research if the 8 has struts or shocks and I get a yes on both.

I'll save you the time - the RX-8 has shocks front and rear.

c0ldf1ame 02-21-2010 01:42 PM

i have a set of shinka seats for sale :)

https://www.rx8club.com/west-sale-wanted-145/shinka-seats-chappral-interior-panels-freebies-190125/

OchoShinka 02-22-2010 03:16 PM

Read your thread, how much of a PITA was it to convert your fogs to HID? I want to do that, I think it looks kinda lame when the headlights are on and the fogs are halogen. Even more lame you can't run just the fogs without the low beams on.

9krpmrx8 02-14-2013 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by jerry43351 (Post 4426981)
as far as lowering i put the s-techs on my 40th and it doesn't seem to have lowered my car at all. Am i missing something?

Come on man, you started a thread about it. Don't just post questions in random threads.

jerry43351 02-14-2013 11:04 PM

well i thought maybe one of yall might know since this is talking about suspension heights but if it bugs you that much then fine i will delete my post here.

VNCLXTRXY 04-10-2014 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by JinDesu (Post 3434988)
That's a little confusing. The 2005 Shinka came in Black Cherry (dark cherry). I do not believe Black Cherry is a normal production color.

The 2006 Shinka was a trim level that was made on VR, WWP, and Galaxy Grey RX-8s. Those three colors are normal production colors.

The normal GT leather seats are black. The 2005 Shinka had Tan leather seats. The 2006 Shinka's had leather/alcantara seats. The one's I've seen commonly are white leather with white alcantara. I don't know if there are other color leather/alcantara seats.

Edit* Misspelled alcantara as alacantra.

Not true my 8 is a Shinka model but is white, unless it has been painted in the past sometime which im not aware of, you can find out if yours is a shinka model by checking the bottom of your window in the black area it says shinka

9krpmrx8 04-10-2014 02:16 PM

People often confuse the Sand interior with the Shinka Alcantara. Both were options in WWP.

alisajoy65 01-11-2015 04:31 AM

shinkas only came out in 2005 only 1300 were made and they interior is tan called pe
 

Originally Posted by Xander (Post 3434825)
care to tell the guy why its not a shinka? are shinkas only a certain color?

shinkas only came out in 2005 only 1300 were made and they interior is tan called peanut butter and the paint is deep purple called jam. Peanut butter& jam. The next shinka is being designed and due to come out in 2050

WhiteDealershipRice 01-11-2015 10:04 AM

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...dition-143385/

2005 SHinka was a "individually numberd special edition"
2006-2007 Shinka was a special trim level
2008 Shinka was replaced by 40th anniversary trim level

details on the link above

lgilbert50 01-12-2015 07:52 AM

my 06 Skinka
 
Have a 06 and has the foam fill spaces im the body. Drilling holes to mount hose clamps and foam came out with the bit. Can't tell for sure about the shocks but I have a lot stiffer ride then my friends 07, ride height is about the same

9krpmrx8 01-14-2015 10:32 AM

The shocks are no different, I have swapped suspensions on a few Shinka's, I have no clue where the Bilstein BS came from, only the (in the U.S.) 2008 40th AE and the 2009+ R3 have Bilsteins, I have swapped suspensions on both of those as well. And whatever those models are called in other markets.

zimherbstritt1 03-03-2015 03:30 AM

So I have an 05 rx8 white no leather and my vin said its the shinka so is the dealer lieing to me ? Cuse if I run my vin on any thing it come u as shinka explain please.

zimherbstritt1 03-03-2015 04:01 AM

Thank u in advanced

9krpmrx8 03-03-2015 03:41 PM

Lot's of them are listed as Shinkas when they are not, there is an explanation somewhere but I am too lazy to find it. But if you have grey and black cloth interior then you don't have a Shinka, unless the interior was swapped but there are many ways to identify a real Shinkas, just post pictures of your car.

zimherbstritt1 03-04-2015 02:28 AM

So u are telling me that the manufacturer of this car does not know what kinda car they made and u know better then they do ?

9krpmrx8 03-04-2015 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by zimherbstritt1 (Post 4668913)
So u are telling me that the manufacturer of this car does not know what kinda car they made and u know better then they do ?


I am telling you that VIN searches (not Mazda) show cars that are not Shinkas, listed as Shinkas. Determining whether a car is a Shinka or not is very easy and whether one is a real Shinka or not is easy to find out if you search for what makes a Shinka, a Shinka.

You have a 2005, here search for your VIN

https://www.rx8club.com/attachments/...on_numbers.pdf

Many have bought RX-8's listed as Shinkas that are not Shinkas as a result of this little glitch. And then they come her and get all pissy and defensive when they are told they were misinformed and do not have a Shinka. But if you don't do enough research to really know what you are buying then I don't feel sorry for these people.


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