RX-8 SPECIFIC Wheels!!
10-24-2003, 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by yawpower
Right now I'm 90% sure that it will work. When I say work, I mean lowered or not, and no rubbing.
Right now I'm 90% sure that it will work. When I say work, I mean lowered or not, and no rubbing.
I don't plan on lowering I like being able to get into parking lots W/ a steep entramce.
10-26-2003, 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by ProToolsKid
I don't plan on lowering I like being able to get into parking lots W/ a steep entramce.
I don't plan on lowering I like being able to get into parking lots W/ a steep entramce.
I think most of us agree that Mazda skimped out on the 6-speed Rx8's wheel width. The 18-inch diameter looks great, and I even like the wheel's styling and functionality, but 8 wides with only 225/45 tires are just plain silly and inadequate for spirited road work. I also think the stock sway bars are a bit on the soft side, and allow too much body roll. I'm looking forward to Yawpower's suspension upgrades. Should work beautifully with Yawpower's wider wheels and tires
10-27-2003, 09:20 AM
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but 8 wides with only 225/45 tires are just plain silly and inadequate for spirited road work.
My experience (Deal's Gap) was that in spirited driving the entire set up works great - it might be better with the S-03s but I had no problems with the stock setup. Of course, I wasn't autoxing but that's a whole different [non-road] environment.
10-27-2003, 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by rx8daniel
are you talking from experience, or from theory?
My experience (Deal's Gap) was that in spirited driving the entire set up works great - it might be better with the S-03s but I had no problems with the stock setup. Of course, I wasn't autoxing but that's a whole different [non-road] environment.
are you talking from experience, or from theory?
My experience (Deal's Gap) was that in spirited driving the entire set up works great - it might be better with the S-03s but I had no problems with the stock setup. Of course, I wasn't autoxing but that's a whole different [non-road] environment.
I'm just looking for a bit more stiffness in the Rx8, but not anything like my FD3S mind you I haven't driven Deal's Gap, but I've read/heard great stories about this route.
I've taken the back roads through the Allegheny mountains to MADS @ Summit Point back 1999 with the FD3S. I was exhausted when I finally reached Winchester VA.
10-27-2003, 11:25 AM
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my back door (Winchester); I live across the mntns - west of the Appalachian trail - just off of I-81 in PA.
therein lies the compromise the 8 is - better for day-to-day driving (not as compromising, IMHO, as the G35) than a FD3S- but- not as hot on the track with the stock setup. But stiffer springs, more open exhaust, wider wheels - all will be available quite soon as I think these are under development by several vendors. But I think for the masses (to get the level of sales Mazda wants) it is an excellent starting point. But I also think it takes a lot of pushing to get the stock tires out of control and that most [RX-8 owners] do not/will not have the knowlege guts or desire to disable DSC and take their car to that point.
therein lies the compromise the 8 is - better for day-to-day driving (not as compromising, IMHO, as the G35) than a FD3S- but- not as hot on the track with the stock setup. But stiffer springs, more open exhaust, wider wheels - all will be available quite soon as I think these are under development by several vendors. But I think for the masses (to get the level of sales Mazda wants) it is an excellent starting point. But I also think it takes a lot of pushing to get the stock tires out of control and that most [RX-8 owners] do not/will not have the knowlege guts or desire to disable DSC and take their car to that point.
10-27-2003, 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by rx8daniel
my back door (Winchester); I live across the mntns - west of the Appalachian trail - just off of I-81 in PA.
therein lies the compromise the 8 is - better for day-to-day driving (not as compromising, IMHO, as the G35) than a FD3S- but- not as hot on the track with the stock setup. But stiffer springs, more open exhaust, wider wheels - all will be available quite soon as I think these are under development by several vendors. But I think for the masses (to get the level of sales Mazda wants) it is an excellent starting point. But I also think it takes a lot of pushing to get the stock tires out of control and that most [RX-8 owners] do not/will not have the knowlege guts or desire to disable DSC and take their car to that point.
my back door (Winchester); I live across the mntns - west of the Appalachian trail - just off of I-81 in PA.
therein lies the compromise the 8 is - better for day-to-day driving (not as compromising, IMHO, as the G35) than a FD3S- but- not as hot on the track with the stock setup. But stiffer springs, more open exhaust, wider wheels - all will be available quite soon as I think these are under development by several vendors. But I think for the masses (to get the level of sales Mazda wants) it is an excellent starting point. But I also think it takes a lot of pushing to get the stock tires out of control and that most [RX-8 owners] do not/will not have the knowlege guts or desire to disable DSC and take their car to that point.
Seriously, I do agree with your point. As a serious driving enthusiast, the FD3S wins the contest between Rx8 and Rx7. Having owned the 7 for 8 years, driving it daily 4 seasons per year, plus instructing at 10 open-track events per season, the 7 is showing its age, and is starting to become tiresome to drive during the daily grind (I must be getting old ). The 8, OTOH, is really quite easy to drive for the ho-hum commute, and very comfortable. I especially love the much softer clutch (compared with my ACT pressure plate in the FD3S). The off/on ramps are still fun, but accelerating on the interstate is a bit disappointing...but...to be fair the FD3S (quite modded) has 360 rear-wheel-hp, while the 8 has less than half of that power pushing 250 lbs more weight. Still I think the Rx8 is a real 4-door sports car. People say BMW 3 series is the 4-door sports car, but those folks have not tried the Rx8
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10-29-2003, 08:10 PM
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Paul,
Your Yaw Power wheels look great! http://www.yawpower.com/wheelpics.html
Are those 9.5 x 18s on 255/40-18s?
Is the Rx8 in the pictures, lowered with an upgraded suspension?
The wheels will look even better on a Silver 8 base 6-speed
Your Yaw Power wheels look great! http://www.yawpower.com/wheelpics.html
Are those 9.5 x 18s on 255/40-18s?
Is the Rx8 in the pictures, lowered with an upgraded suspension?
The wheels will look even better on a Silver 8 base 6-speed
10-30-2003, 09:36 AM
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Nope...Stock tires, but with a 40mm offset as opposed to the 50mm offset of the stock wheels. The track is wider by almost an inch.
The car is lowered a bit. Too much in the rear. It needs to come up a bit so that that it doesn't run short on travel with 4 adults, and golf clubs, or luggage in the trunk. Besides, I think it will look better with more rake.
Our Stage I suspension is meant to be "dual purpose" and right now the car is fine with 2 people, but it runs short on travel in the back with 4 full size adults, a full tank of gas, and about 40 lbs of stuff in the trunk.
It is still in its VERY early development stage.
I shot some better pictures of the wheels yesterday. I hope to have them posted early next week.
The production pieces will be slightly different. They currently have 40 fasteners. The production pieces will only have 28, and they will be dished out a bit more in the lug area much like the stock wheels.
We are close to starting production on the wheels. Once we get started, we will take deposits, and the first batch will take 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.
The first run will be 100 wheels, and we already have solid orders for 13 sets in 18X8 (Mostly people running track events)
After the second production run, we plan to keep wheels in stock so the delivery time will be shorter.
The second production run should start at the first of the year.
If I was any good with Photo shop, I would show the wheels on different colored cars.
Thanks for your comments.
The car is lowered a bit. Too much in the rear. It needs to come up a bit so that that it doesn't run short on travel with 4 adults, and golf clubs, or luggage in the trunk. Besides, I think it will look better with more rake.
Our Stage I suspension is meant to be "dual purpose" and right now the car is fine with 2 people, but it runs short on travel in the back with 4 full size adults, a full tank of gas, and about 40 lbs of stuff in the trunk.
It is still in its VERY early development stage.
I shot some better pictures of the wheels yesterday. I hope to have them posted early next week.
The production pieces will be slightly different. They currently have 40 fasteners. The production pieces will only have 28, and they will be dished out a bit more in the lug area much like the stock wheels.
We are close to starting production on the wheels. Once we get started, we will take deposits, and the first batch will take 4 to 6 weeks for delivery.
The first run will be 100 wheels, and we already have solid orders for 13 sets in 18X8 (Mostly people running track events)
After the second production run, we plan to keep wheels in stock so the delivery time will be shorter.
The second production run should start at the first of the year.
If I was any good with Photo shop, I would show the wheels on different colored cars.
Thanks for your comments.
10-30-2003, 10:41 AM
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9.5 x 18, 255/40-18
I'd be interested in reading about your 9.5 x 18, 255/40-18 fitment, and any pics you can post! I'll probably leave the suspension stock since it'll be a daily driver with occasional autocross and DEs.
10-30-2003, 10:49 AM
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I will post information to the website as soon as it is available. We're still noodling around with different fitments. With all the work involved in CNC programming and prototyping, we need to make sure everything is just right before we make claims/start production.
We just need to be sure that everything clears under all conditions.
The 255/40 is about the only alternative with wider width, and the same diameter as stock. I'm not going to offer a wheel/tire combination that throws off the speedo/odomoeter.
We're moving as fast as we can.
I appreciate your interest.
We just need to be sure that everything clears under all conditions.
The 255/40 is about the only alternative with wider width, and the same diameter as stock. I'm not going to offer a wheel/tire combination that throws off the speedo/odomoeter.
We're moving as fast as we can.
I appreciate your interest.
10-30-2003, 01:40 PM
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Is there any hope of a 45mm offset? I ask because 40mm offsets are not legal for SCCA stock class. I know the local club won't care, but I would hate to be protested at a nation level.
Thanks.
Thanks.
10-30-2003, 01:40 PM
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Is there any hope of a 45mm offset? I ask because 40mm offsets are not legal for SCCA stock class. I know the local club won't care, but I would hate to be protested at a nation level.
Thanks.
Thanks.
10-30-2003, 02:06 PM
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It seems that SCCA has a knack for screwing with my plans. I'll have to give that some thought.
Could you send me an email at paul@yawpower.com in a week or so? I can have an answer for you then.
Could you send me an email at paul@yawpower.com in a week or so? I can have an answer for you then.
10-31-2003, 07:47 AM
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Paul:
Sure no problem.
SleepR1:
I know, but sometimes there is just the one jerk who will do it just because he can.
Actually its only 4mm extra because the rules allow +/- .25 in which is +/- 6mm so any offset from 44mm - 56mm is allowed.
If I have the money I will still get the wheels, but just checking to see if a legal version exists or possible.
Sure no problem.
SleepR1:
I know, but sometimes there is just the one jerk who will do it just because he can.
Actually its only 4mm extra because the rules allow +/- .25 in which is +/- 6mm so any offset from 44mm - 56mm is allowed.
If I have the money I will still get the wheels, but just checking to see if a legal version exists or possible.
11-14-2003, 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by mental pimp
those rims are ugly
those rims are ugly
Paul, I basically really like the wheels, but find them a bit too busy. Kind of remind me of the old Pontiac TransAm "honeycomb" wheels. I notice that the wheels have 7 spokes, all of which split near the rim, forming a rotary-shaped opening, which is WAY cool. But I wonder if you could do the same wheel with 5 or 6 spokes that split. Might make it a bit simpler looking...
Finally, will you be making any kind of a less expensive variant of this wheel? Perhaps ones with less spokes, to reduce the manufacturing costs? :D I know pricing hasn't been announced yet, but I suspect you'd sell a lot more of them if the price for 4 came closer to $1000 than $2500. I know I'd be severely tempted at the lower price point!
Thanks...
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Originally posted by Omicron
Finally, will you be making any kind of a less expensive variant of this wheel? Perhaps ones with less spokes, to reduce the manufacturing costs? :D I know pricing hasn't been announced yet, but I suspect you'd sell a lot more of them if the price for 4 came closer to $1000 than $2500. I know I'd be severely tempted at the lower price point!
Thanks...
Finally, will you be making any kind of a less expensive variant of this wheel? Perhaps ones with less spokes, to reduce the manufacturing costs? :D I know pricing hasn't been announced yet, but I suspect you'd sell a lot more of them if the price for 4 came closer to $1000 than $2500. I know I'd be severely tempted at the lower price point!
Thanks...
11-17-2003, 02:11 PM
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Not debating this is a reasonable price. It definitely is. But money doesn't grow on trees, and I would rather spend less if I can. Thought it might be worth asking the question.
Paul?
Paul?
11-17-2003, 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Omicron
Not debating this is a reasonable price. It definitely is. But money doesn't grow on trees, and I would rather spend less if I can. Thought it might be worth asking the question.
Paul?
Not debating this is a reasonable price. It definitely is. But money doesn't grow on trees, and I would rather spend less if I can. Thought it might be worth asking the question.
Paul?