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ZumnRx8 05-08-2009 04:23 PM

R-1 Concepts Inc. Performance Brake Rotors
 
Hey everyone!!!
I just picked up my pairs of front and back drilled and diamond slotted rotors! The Vents or whatever you call them (whats between the discs) are really well made, better than stock, for better cooling, the vents run the same way the slots run, at that exact angle, so it scoops more air easily to the center!...If you need a pair, or are interested in a pair, look at my sig or call R1 Concepts and ask to speak with Martin, Let him know that you are with the RX8Club.com and are interested in their brake rotors, let him know Ricky aka ZUMNRX8 sent you. So far I have these pics before the install! Also!, look out for a EPIC DIY brake rotor swap & G2 Caliper paint 980degree resistant! Guess which Rotors are the fronts (things are huge!)?
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11627.jpg
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11628.jpg
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11629.jpg
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11632.jpg

L337fpc 05-08-2009 04:59 PM

those are freaking insane

TripleP 05-08-2009 06:04 PM

those look sick

Ross_Dawg 05-08-2009 06:38 PM

those look nice man, how much did you pay?

TopGear8 05-08-2009 07:11 PM

Hopefully no more than $350 which they sell for on ebay..

pdxhak 05-08-2009 09:08 PM

I believe Centric provides rotors to R1 and they drill and slot them. Centric may provide rotors to StopTech and other companies as well.

9krpmrx8 05-08-2009 09:11 PM

They Look good, We will Compare when I get mine rotorpros.

ZumnRx8 05-08-2009 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3011720)
I believe Centric provides rotors to R1 and they drill and slot them. Centric may provide rotors to StopTech and other companies as well.

I think you might be right, because he had mentioned to me that they work closely with StopTech, *hint the diamond slots* R1 came up with em.


Originally Posted by topgear8 (Post 3011576)
Hopefully no more than $350 which they sell for on ebay..

They do sell on ebay as well as their website. $350! no no no, When you're a part of the RX8club, you get special pricing....:rock: Call them (whoever is interested),


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3011531)
those look nice man, how much did you pay?

I got a good/special deal simply because he knew that I'd spread the word on the forum when I had spoke to him at the D1GP in Anaheim. If there was a Group Buy then everyone in the group buy can possibly get the rotors for the crazy price I got them for. They have some other Design rotors with the R1 Logo as the slotting, I seen them at the shop, they are super nice. They have super nice Gold ones like "BREMBOS" but those are special order. They have more than what is available at their website. You can Even get the Mazda Sign as the slotting on the rotor. They retail for $350-400 for all 4, but if you call him and let him know you part of the RX8 club, then you can get special pricing.:crazy:


Originally Posted by TripleP (Post 3011477)
those look sick

Those are just pictures....In person they are huge! and super clean. Wait till I install them....:yesnod:


Originally Posted by L337fpc (Post 3011359)
those are freaking insane

Trust me, they are!:yesnod:


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3011726)
They Look good, We will Compare when I get mine rotorpros.

We will see....

TopGear8 05-08-2009 09:54 PM

Although they do look very nice, I would rather go with RB myself if I were to get slotted rotors, they do much much more R&D.

ZumnRx8 05-08-2009 09:57 PM

I heard a lot of people go with RacingBreak ^ and those are the people who do track or autoX like you. These are less expensive and Im sure perform just as well, for those who want some for Daily Driving, these are defenitely the real deal and at a good price (Less than the retail for the RX8Club)! Or did you mean Racing beat?

Ross_Dawg 05-09-2009 05:21 AM

no he meant racing brake... I'd be hesitant to buy these as I've heard drilled rotors crack more easily, and with a somewhat no-name brand, gets kind of iffy

TopGear8 05-09-2009 06:28 AM

^True, I have read about the R1 Concepts rotors breaking sometimes, but also know some people who have had them for 2+ years, such as Patrick, and he is very satisified with them. So they are a good rotor for someone who does not track their 8, and it does look very nice indeed. But if you are a track addict, I would just stick with OEM rotors, or possibly a Racing Brake two piece rotor.

Spin9k 05-09-2009 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3011238)
Hey everyone!!!
I just picked up my pairs of front and back drilled and diamond slotted rotors! The Vents or whatever you call them (whats between the discs) are really well made, better than stock, for better cooling, the vents run the same way the slots run, at that exact angle, so it scoops more air easily to the center!...

Nice looking....hope the quality is really there at that price, worth a shot I suppose. BTW on disk brake rotors, air vents from the center of the disk out, not the other way around, for example, that's why brake cooling ducts put air at the spindle area.

tdiddy 05-09-2009 08:37 AM

I've been running these for 2 years and 5000 miles. No problems so far.

Race Roots 05-09-2009 11:34 AM

Yeah interesting topic of conversation especially one I was having last night with another that is in the industry. Sure all these are made at the same facilities but no QC or R&D goes into the Rotors. Another Famous Ebay brand that did this same thing was Ksport, huge on ebay cheap prices but the quality was lacking launched a national brand and there have been some horror stories on their coilovers having to be rebuilt.

Not to say that these are bad or horrible but there is a reason the price is so low.

I would be curious to see the weight of these rotors.

ZumnRx8 05-09-2009 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3012022)
no he meant racing brake... I'd be hesitant to buy these as I've heard drilled rotors crack more easily, and with a somewhat no-name brand, gets kind of iffy

Gotcha, I just spelled it wrong...Ive also heard that about drilled rotors, however if thats what makes you hesitant, you can get them in a slotted version only, or OEM style...its available on their site, but its truely better to call them up so you can have them made to ur specs.:yesnod: A lot of people told me to just get them in a slotted version, but having 20" rims you can tell Im more of a visual person, and I also dont drive that hard, so I went with the Cross-Drilled and Slotted.:D: They also have gold rotors similar to BREMBOS, but you have to call. There is more options available for a type of rotor at their shop. Online its only E-Line, or Performance, like mine.


Originally Posted by topgear8 (Post 3012034)
^True, I have read about the R1 Concepts rotors breaking sometimes, but also know some people who have had them for 2+ years, such as Patrick, and he is very satisified with them. So they are a good rotor for someone who does not track their 8, and it does look very nice indeed. But if you are a track addict, I would just stick with OEM rotors, or possibly a Racing Brake two piece rotor.

I Strongly Agree, they do carry an OEM style rotor and just slotted version too. They are so F'in Sexy and I still havent put them on...cant wait. I love the fact that our rotors are huge! Maybe the cracking is due to the type of Pads Used?:dunno:


Originally Posted by Spin9k (Post 3012037)
Nice looking....hope the quality is really there at that price, worth a shot I suppose. BTW on disk brake rotors, air vents from the center of the disk out, not the other way around, for example, that's why brake cooling ducts put air at the spindle area.

We will see after a couple of months. :yesnod: Thanks for educating me on the vents:yesnod: So i dont sound stupid next time....:suspect:


Originally Posted by tdiddy (Post 3012074)
I've been running these for 2 years and 5000 miles. No problems so far.

Im Glad they have not gave you problems! What pads are you running with the rotors? Martin from R1 suggested Ceramics, and dude up front told me any will do, but to use new ones and not the ones I currently have on. They are going to ship me some ceramics for $5 and again a discounted price! Front and Back only about $75 from what he told me. One of the guys brothers that works at R1 also has an RX8 and runs Hawks with these rotors.


Originally Posted by Fluid Motorsports (Post 3012225)
Yeah interesting topic of conversation especially one I was having last night with another that is in the industry. .....

I would be curious to see the weight of these rotors.

Ill weigh them and let you know.

Race Roots 05-09-2009 12:02 PM

Also do you see any very small dimples on the rotors?

These are very important to check the consistency of the hardness of the rotors.

I am curious to know.

ZumnRx8 05-09-2009 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Fluid Motorsports (Post 3012255)
Also do you see any very small dimples on the rotors?

These are very important to check the consistency of the hardness of the rotors.

I am curious to know.

Sorry no dimples....they are so PERFECT.....Im going to install them today with the Socal Guys in a couple of hours I will post pics! Stay tuned!!

Ross_Dawg 05-09-2009 12:17 PM

sounds good man, they should look pretty baller with the 20's

ZumnRx8 05-09-2009 12:19 PM

They are gonna look so fucking sexy I already know it, whenever I come to a stop/stoplight the person next to me is gonna be "stoked" like WTF!!!!!!!!!! My cuzin with an S2K and other cuzin with a Nismo 350 are gonna be drinking that "HATERADE", Ill post pics later today....Renesis is doing the install....they are doing an install meet at Dozers. Dozer should turn his house into a Shop....lol.

pdxhak 05-09-2009 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Fluid Motorsports (Post 3012225)
Yeah interesting topic of conversation especially one I was having last night with another that is in the industry. Sure all these are made at the same facilities but no QC or R&D goes into the Rotors. Another Famous Ebay brand that did this same thing was Ksport, huge on ebay cheap prices but the quality was lacking launched a national brand and there have been some horror stories on their coilovers having to be rebuilt.

Not to say that these are bad or horrible but there is a reason the price is so low.

I would be curious to see the weight of these rotors.

Care to clarify your position? No QC and R&D by who? Centric? Power Slot? StopTech? R1? Being a vendor who sells parts from competing companies you should be specific and detailed with such claims.

Race Roots 05-09-2009 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by pdxhak (Post 3012353)
Care to clarify your position? No QC and R&D by who? Centric? Power Slot? StopTech? R1? Being a vendor who sells parts from competing companies you should be specific and detailed with such claims.

This is the norm of this industry of what it has become. I should digress and not say specifically this company or any of the ones you stated. It was a hypothetical situation of what actually occurs my statements were out of curiosity and previous experience with inexpensive brands and their cost of parts and why they are so.

I can name a dozen companies that buy from the same factory (overseas mind you) Even though they are a US based manufacturer, I have heard repeatedly from the people that work and have worked with these companies that this is what occurs.

QC & R&D are typically where the costs incurred determine value of said product, that is a safe assumption of what I have experienced.

Now mind you that there is also a significant margin in these lesser expensive brands. Which actually blows my mind.

I have reverse engineered many companies to see where they buy from, who makes their parts and circumvent the hierarchy of the BS dealer structures in place today. Out of curiosity mind you.

Two Perfect Examples:

I have found an authentic "HKS" wastegate for $27 do I buy them, absolutely not.

I have also seen a complete set of Muteki Lug Nuts for $7, are they the same..close, but look near the same.

I don't dabble in this river as the water is tainted with bad things....

I could go more in depth with many more, but this topic is already derailed enough.

If you ever catch me in person or on a group chat on AIM I would be happy to elaborate more my findings. If you want my AIM handle pm me, I don't go on the one in my profile much.

Ross_Dawg 05-10-2009 12:07 AM

zumn any pictures?

ZumnRx8 05-10-2009 05:45 AM

Imma post pics today....when sun comes up, So I can wash my car because its a lil dirty....

tdiddy 05-10-2009 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3012247)
Im Glad they have not gave you problems! What pads are you running with the rotors? Martin from R1 suggested Ceramics, and dude up front told me any will do, but to use new ones and not the ones I currently have on. They are going to ship me some ceramics for $5 and again a discounted price! Front and Back only about $75 from what he told me. One of the guys brothers that works at R1 also has an RX8 and runs Hawks with these rotors.

I have Hawk HPS on all 4. I also only have the slotted rotors.

dmp 05-10-2009 10:53 AM

Why would somebody pick those over OEM when needing to replace rotors? Any measurable benefits? I'm going to need rotors pretty soon, so if you had any data on those rotors, I'd appreciate you sharing!

Ross_Dawg 05-10-2009 12:06 PM

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/brake-faq-167264/

ZumnRx8 05-10-2009 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 3013161)
Why would somebody pick those over OEM when needing to replace rotors? Any measurable benefits? I'm going to need rotors pretty soon, so if you had any data on those rotors, I'd appreciate you sharing!

1. They are cheaper (in price) to purchase.
2. They stop just as good if not even better.
3. If cross drilled and slotted rotors didnt work a tad better, pros wouldnt use them. BTW I recognized, being honest here, a 20% harder bite with these rotors.
4. Measurable benefits, non that I know of unless you are talking weight as a measurement... and to tell you the truth, and you can even ask RENESIS that was there doing my install, that these rotors weigh at least -5lbs less than stock!!! Thats a lot of weight loss!!! A total of 24lbs

edit: these come painted black and look sexy as hell!!! not all rusty like the OEM....

Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3013238)

Good shit, subscribed, and Im going to get pictures in a bit, I have to wash my car first...:yesnod:

dmp 05-10-2009 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3013238)

Thanks - doesn't answer my question though. That provides background info on what things do.

I'm asking: For these R-1 Concepts - Is there any data that shows how they perform compared to OEM?



Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3013261)
1. They are cheaper (in price) to purchase.
2. They stop just as good if not even better.
3. If cross drilled and slotted rotors didnt work a tad better, pros wouldnt use them. BTW I recognized, being honest here, a 20% harder bite with these rotors.
4. Measurable benefits, non that I know of unless you are talking weight as a measurement... and to tell you the truth, and you can even ask RENESIS that was there doing my install, that these rotors weigh at least -5lbs less than stock!!! Thats a lot of weight loss!!! A total of 24lbs

1. Cheaper than ~$120 each for the fronts?
2. How so? What's better?
3. That's a logical fallacy friend. The pros use equipment which works for them on a racetrack. Most of us don't have corporate sponsors to replace cracked or broken or otherwise bad parts from the stress of racing. We buy parts, in large part, we intend to keep for more than a few track session
4. Yes. I'm talking about actual benefit in stopping distances or fade resistance. 'at least' 5lbs less than stock? What's the actual weight? Reducing mass can reduce a rotor's ability to handle heat. BTW, if they are 5lbs less than stock, that's a 20lbs savings, bro ;).

Ross_Dawg 05-10-2009 12:45 PM

Ah gotcha, didnt realize you were asking about these rotors specifically. I'd be interested in data as well for these compared to RB and others

Race Roots 05-10-2009 01:27 PM

I searched the R1 website and couldn't find much as I was curious what they had to offer and what research and development they had completed or what benefits they had over others.

I then looked at Racing Brake and they have tons of information on what their rotors are all about and why they are better. Not just a sentence or two, I am talking pages of information and data about what they do. When I called and talked to Racing Brake, hands down best customer service and knowledge seen. Stoptech would not even take the time to talk to me.

Check them out for yourself:

http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/technology.asp

http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/faq.asp

http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/product_features.asp

http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/manufacturing.asp

http://www.racingbrake.com/v/main/product_knowledge.asp

Plenty of information to go over and review.

It was no contest for me to decide what brake system was going on my car and which I would distribute.

ZumnRx8 05-10-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Fluid Motorsports (Post 3013296)
I searched the R1 website and couldn't find much as I was curious what they had to offer and what research and development they had completed or what benefits they had over others.

I then looked at Racing Brake and they have tons of information on what their rotors are all about and why they are better. Not just a sentence or two, I am talking pages of information and data about what they do. When I called and talked to Racing Brake, hands down best customer service and knowledge seen. Stoptech would not even take the time to talk to me.

^^:evil_laug^^Why dont you Call R1-Concepts like you did RacingBrake and ask them about their rotors?:yesnod: Im sure they'll let you know:rolleyes:. Dont deflect :nono: R1-Concepts by using StopTechs bad customer service.....thats a no...no..:nono:.

ZumnRx8 05-10-2009 04:21 PM

Some Pictures of the DIY that Im going to do type up tomorrow for taking off rotors.....:yesnod:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...Y/SDC11752.jpg
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...Y/SDC11749.jpg

ZumnRx8 05-10-2009 04:29 PM

We accidently started to put the rotors with the slots backwards but I fixed that today as you will be able to see in the DIY....Heres a pic of yesterdays install, yeah thats my daughter in the Third pics trying to ship herself to CHINA:lol2:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11650.jpg

http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11649.jpg
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11655.jpg

dmp 05-10-2009 07:15 PM

Dude - you've got your rotors on the wrong side of the car! They should spin open-side forward - like this:

(at least true for stop tech)

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/img/slotted_rotor.jpg


That is unless the cooling vanes are going the right way...just double check, aight?

Ross_Dawg 05-10-2009 07:44 PM

lol he said that above^^

9krpmrx8 05-10-2009 08:24 PM

So much for the DIY. Fail.

jones75254 05-10-2009 10:07 PM

LOL, give the guy a break, he was just excited. Nice lookin rotors. In Zumn's case it doesnt really matter whether or not these rotors are as good/better quality than RB, its not like he Autox/tracks his 8. They are pretty much for show, and will do fine for DD use... they look great.

ZumnRx8 05-11-2009 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 3013594)
Dude - you've got your rotors on the wrong side of the car! They should spin open-side forward - like this:

(at least true for stop tech)

That is unless the cooling vanes are going the right way...just double check, aight?

I mentioned that I "fixed them today earlier" in post #34!


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3013636)
lol he said that above^^

I know! but some people read books by looking at only the pictures :lol2:


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 3013679)
So much for the DIY. Fail.

Theres no DIY fail here. When I swapped the rotors to the correct sides, I took DIY pics and will make the DIY later today after I get sleep.


Originally Posted by jones75254 (Post 3013881)
LOL, give the guy a break, he was just excited. Nice lookin rotors. In Zumn's case it doesnt really matter whether or not these rotors are as good/better quality than RB, its not like he Autox/tracks his 8. They are pretty much for show, and will do fine for DD use... they look great.

:yesnod: Thanks, and I Agree!

Heres some night pics I took a bit ago when I got off work....:Eyecrazy: SO FUCKING SEXY!!!:Eyecrazy::Eyecrazy::Eyecrazy: They look way better because as you can tell I washed my little hotwheel BLING BLING:icon_no2: and the Rotors are right now...I said earlier I "fixed them":yesnod:
Rear
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11756.jpg
Front at an angle (huge sexy rotor!:yesnod:)
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11759.jpg
Rear at an angle
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/SDC11762.jpg

dmp 05-11-2009 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by ZumnRx8 (Post 3014243)
I mentioned that I "fixed them today earlier" in post #34!


I know! but some people read books by looking at only the pictures :lol2:

Sorry - I read threads by looking at the pictures first.

:)

ZumnRx8 05-11-2009 07:50 AM

:lol2:

9krpmrx8 05-11-2009 09:49 AM

Words? What words?

J03K1LLARX8 05-11-2009 10:34 AM

nice zumn they look bad as*

TopGear8 05-11-2009 11:50 AM

Now just get some wheels that look good.

ZumnRx8 05-12-2009 08:10 AM

^ im working on that, searching everywhere, works....volks RE.....wedsport.....gonna look hard before making up my mind....need dope wheels with dope rotors....are you coming to Sevenstock?

kersh4w 05-12-2009 11:44 AM

dude. buddy club pf, 17x9. 14lbs. $500/rim.

its like the enkei rpf1 on cocaine. more expensive but less weight too.

fluid motorsports has them.

Ross_Dawg 05-12-2009 02:00 PM

500/rim is pricy even for 17's :shocking:

ZumnRx8 05-12-2009 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by kersh4w (Post 3016433)
dude. buddy club pf, 17x9. 14lbs. $500/rim.

its like the enkei rpf1 on cocaine. more expensive but less weight too.

fluid motorsports has them.

Not a fan of Buddy Club.... and I at least wanna go 18-19, if I wanted 17's I could get some wheels off an S2ki.com S2000 forum....but no can do...and all the 18's they have are really curbed or road rashed....thats a nono :nono:


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3016742)
500/rim is pricy even for 17's :shocking:

$500 wheels for good wheels is cheap, TE37 volks run about $800+per ouch! :banghead:

Spin9k 05-12-2009 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by kersh4w (Post 3016433)
dude. buddy club pf, 17x9. 14lbs. $500/rim.

its like the enkei rpf1 on cocaine. more expensive but less weight too.

fluid motorsports has them.

"Enkei RP-F1 17x9, 45mm offset 5x114, 15 pounds, $249"

That's "1" expensive pound I'd say, @ an extra $251 each for the pleasure of it! :Eyecrazy:

ZumnRx8 05-12-2009 05:10 PM

^^^ ITS Hard enough going from 20" all the way back down to 18" stock and here you ask me to go even lower with 17".....dont think so....Im looking for 18-19 so i can clear easily when i drop my car....


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