Megan Racing Coilovers?
11-18-2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gh0st
peter is a younger asian kid that goes to cal poly now. he drives a camry but races WRXs. he just started his buisness with a few friends. suchi is the other guys name i think.
well, whenever you guys get more in stock, id like to check them out. please let me know. thanks
denward
well, whenever you guys get more in stock, id like to check them out. please let me know. thanks
denward
ohhh yeah he's the one w/ the impreza. i just spoke w/ him right now lol.. he just walked into my work.
yeah i'll let you know when they are in. should be 1-2 months.
07-29-2006, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Endless Rotaries
They will be bouncy.
Really, i first installed the front ones and took her for a spin, could feel abit difference in performance. Then i installed the rear ones and damn! This was a bouncy/swaying experience! If i drive on a straight road and just try to make some hard/fast left/right turns it feel like the cars *** is like all over the road just bouncing uncontrolable AFTER ive straighten up the car again. On my previous car i had hipermax II installed, and i can tell yall these megans cant EVER be compared to the hks ones!
When i took the first test drive on the freeway (which has a nice long turn entrance/exit) the anti-slip kicked in almost immediately, like i had no grip at all, which sucked.
Originally Posted by rx8power
Well Finally go my Coilovers installed. I'll be honest with you, I was kind of worried about the coilovers after hearing from some of you, but after driving the car for couple of days, all that changed. The set are perfect, nice drop, excellent quality, easy access to make adjustment to the damper setting(especially the rear), and beautiful ride quality. Of course, a little harsh but which coilover isn't.
You havent experienced any of this rx8power mate? Whats ur setup regarding the height between the actuall adjustable bracket and the spring?
Maybe it will get better if i adjust and squeeze the spings abit more to get less movement/bouncing? I also noticed that when i first put them on (the way they came in the shipment) the rear ones actually raised the riding hight lol. I have about 0.6inch left of available adjustment from the lower-bracket to the spring and the cars ride height is almost the same as it was when i had the rear OEM installed....heh. There must be smth badly wrong here, should i try squeezing the springs more or??
I could rly need some advice on these pls, thanks
07-29-2006, 11:21 AM
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biotoxin,
did you install the coilovers yourself because it sounds like something was done improperly.
ive talked to a few people with megans on and they all love them. supposedly they are better then the tein basics in terms of ride and overall quality. ive also seen a set in person. they looked really good for the price.
if your ride is bouncy, there may also be a chance that you have bad shocks on your new coilovers but its unlikely.
did you install the coilovers yourself because it sounds like something was done improperly.
ive talked to a few people with megans on and they all love them. supposedly they are better then the tein basics in terms of ride and overall quality. ive also seen a set in person. they looked really good for the price.
if your ride is bouncy, there may also be a chance that you have bad shocks on your new coilovers but its unlikely.
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07-29-2006, 11:26 AM
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"Bouncy" means the rebound force on the shock isn't high enough. You need to crank up the stiffness on your shocks. One would think that a real coilover setup wouldn't allow you to adjust the shock so loose that it is this underdamped.
Adjusting the height of the shock doesn't change the spring rate at all, so it won't change the tendency to bounce at all.
You also need to get the car corner balanced if you care about handling at all. Coilovers aren't there to adjust the height of the car- they're there to get your corner weights right, and a few mm of difference from side to side makes a big difference. You also need an alignment ASAP (right after corner weighting) since your alighnment is hosed for sure after that install and height change. The toe you now have in the back is probably why the rear feels so loose.
Adjusting the height of the shock doesn't change the spring rate at all, so it won't change the tendency to bounce at all.
You also need to get the car corner balanced if you care about handling at all. Coilovers aren't there to adjust the height of the car- they're there to get your corner weights right, and a few mm of difference from side to side makes a big difference. You also need an alignment ASAP (right after corner weighting) since your alighnment is hosed for sure after that install and height change. The toe you now have in the back is probably why the rear feels so loose.
07-29-2006, 11:58 AM
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I actually bought the Megans cus of the positive feedback i read on the forums here, but this is really annoying, dangerous and not good at all.
Yes i installed them my self. It was not a big job, but i havent done it befoire on a 8. Cant see ive done anything improperly, i even followed the instructions which came with the set. Something is obviously wrong here, just cant figure it out. Asked many ppl today and some even helped me when i was trying to make new adjustments. Tried to crank up the stiffness to maximum, still the same bouncing (dampers where VERY stiff though). Then i tried to adjust them down to minimum with the same result (now i could feel the dampers where soft). They're now cranked up about middle (16).
Like u say, its unlikely the shocks are bad....they're brand NEW for crying out loud!
These Megans are getting me frustrated! And the thought that i just "wasted" over $900!
Of course im going to get the car corner balanced, was hoping to get this bouncing problem solved first, in case i will need to put the stock ones back on
Yes i installed them my self. It was not a big job, but i havent done it befoire on a 8. Cant see ive done anything improperly, i even followed the instructions which came with the set. Something is obviously wrong here, just cant figure it out. Asked many ppl today and some even helped me when i was trying to make new adjustments. Tried to crank up the stiffness to maximum, still the same bouncing (dampers where VERY stiff though). Then i tried to adjust them down to minimum with the same result (now i could feel the dampers where soft). They're now cranked up about middle (16).
Like u say, its unlikely the shocks are bad....they're brand NEW for crying out loud!
These Megans are getting me frustrated! And the thought that i just "wasted" over $900!
Of course im going to get the car corner balanced, was hoping to get this bouncing problem solved first, in case i will need to put the stock ones back on
07-29-2006, 12:25 PM
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900! thats kind of a lot for those. a friend of mine sells them for pretty cheap and i keep telling to come here to become a vendor (his prices are really... REALLY competetive). i dont know whats taking him soo long.
anywho, is there one particular corner that is bouncy or just the whole thing? i called a friend of mine that just installed them last month and he said that they wernt bouncy at all and that they are acctually kinda stiff. just as or if not stiffer then his teins.
if your dampening is as stiff as you say, it shouldnt be bouncy at all. are there any kinds of knocking noises or rubbing noises?
anywho, is there one particular corner that is bouncy or just the whole thing? i called a friend of mine that just installed them last month and he said that they wernt bouncy at all and that they are acctually kinda stiff. just as or if not stiffer then his teins.
if your dampening is as stiff as you say, it shouldnt be bouncy at all. are there any kinds of knocking noises or rubbing noises?
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07-29-2006, 01:09 PM
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The bouncing is only "sideways" if u know what i mean.
There is no knocking or any other unusual sounds. Which is why i cant understand whats wrong
This phenomena just came into being after i installed the rear ones, and like i said it feels like the *** is floating lol. If im driving a straight line in i.e. 60mph and do a quick left or right the car obviously cranks to the side but the comes the contra which scared the hell outha me. Same if i brake fast down, bounces left'n right which makes it difficult to keep the car on the road...
There is no knocking or any other unusual sounds. Which is why i cant understand whats wrong
This phenomena just came into being after i installed the rear ones, and like i said it feels like the *** is floating lol. If im driving a straight line in i.e. 60mph and do a quick left or right the car obviously cranks to the side but the comes the contra which scared the hell outha me. Same if i brake fast down, bounces left'n right which makes it difficult to keep the car on the road...
07-29-2006, 01:46 PM
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Here are couple pics showing the ride height and coilover mounting. The rear ones are now dropped down to the maximum. Front ones are still able to drop down more, even though theyre lower than the rear ones atm...
07-29-2006, 03:14 PM
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okok... i have some info for you.
the megans are dual height adjustable so that is a pretty nice feature to have for 900 bucksalong with dampening adjustibility. BUT if you turn the top settings its easy to change the preload which i think is whats happening to you. its best to leave the top settings alone because its preset from the factory and adjust the ride height via the lower adjusters.
i think whats happening to you is tha the preload is set too (your compressing the spring so that its always under too much load and your overloading the dampeners)
to fix the problem, you can spin the strut indipendantly from the top hat to back it off. from there, you can re adjust it from the bottom settings.
i hope that makes sence cause i wrote it in like 10 seconds. i g2g.
the megans are dual height adjustable so that is a pretty nice feature to have for 900 bucksalong with dampening adjustibility. BUT if you turn the top settings its easy to change the preload which i think is whats happening to you. its best to leave the top settings alone because its preset from the factory and adjust the ride height via the lower adjusters.
i think whats happening to you is tha the preload is set too (your compressing the spring so that its always under too much load and your overloading the dampeners)
to fix the problem, you can spin the strut indipendantly from the top hat to back it off. from there, you can re adjust it from the bottom settings.
i hope that makes sence cause i wrote it in like 10 seconds. i g2g.
07-29-2006, 04:05 PM
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the top settings? like adjusting the stiffness,no? i actually unscrewed the top so the spring dropped down and was loose (i could move it wit my hands), then i tighten it up again, just to make sure like ur saying if the spring was under too much tention. But wen it was loose, i just tightened it but so it was "secure" and not moving freely if u know what i mean...
i noticed i was able to spin the whole strut but didnt quite understand why, i mean...i dint rly see anything beeing adjusted or smth when i turned it... *confused*
i noticed i was able to spin the whole strut but didnt quite understand why, i mean...i dint rly see anything beeing adjusted or smth when i turned it... *confused*
07-29-2006, 11:05 PM
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I bet your toe is just really off. Lots of toe-out on the back will cause the car to feel really twitchy in the rear.
that is a great point... i just assumed that the settings were marked and they were put back the way they came out..
from the look of the drop. if they were back to the org spec it should feel normal...
lateral is something loose or way out of alignment..
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07-30-2006, 04:13 PM
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His ride isn't bouncy. He said that in a later post.
He says it's "bouncy" side-to-side. He says the up-and-down is fine. There should be no play side to side at all unless something is basically broken, and then the whole rear suspension will fall apart.
This is why I think it's alignment. If you took apart your whole suspension to put in expensive coil-overs and don't know what toe is, you probably messed it up really good, and you really should learn more about what makes a car handle.
He says it's "bouncy" side-to-side. He says the up-and-down is fine. There should be no play side to side at all unless something is basically broken, and then the whole rear suspension will fall apart.
This is why I think it's alignment. If you took apart your whole suspension to put in expensive coil-overs and don't know what toe is, you probably messed it up really good, and you really should learn more about what makes a car handle.
07-30-2006, 04:31 PM
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So you suggest i just get it aligned a mazda? sorry for not understanding all the english words your refering to, i know a toe is smth u got on ur feet lol 