View Poll Results: What would you seriously consider putting on your car for the prices provided?
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12-29-2008, 11:51 PM
#28
If you do the aluminum underpanel #1 it should go past the oil pan and it could be incorporated with #2 (Front Ladder Brace 4 Point ). There seems to be interest in the aluminum underpanel but unless it has more functional value it would be a hard sale, if it went past the oil pan like the beat rush http://www.therpmstore.com/popup_ima...25grqnum1ulc74 , it would be more of a functional upgrade. The beat rush aluminum under panel only goes under the oil pan but it does not offer any additional bracing, they just claim improved air flow, cooling and down force.
Even if you dont include the front ladder brace with a lengthened underpanel they would just need to be compatable.
Beat rush is getting about $200 for the small aluminum under panel but I would rather spend $450-500 for a complete aluminum underpanel (front bumper past oil pan).
Even if you dont include the front ladder brace with a lengthened underpanel they would just need to be compatable.
Beat rush is getting about $200 for the small aluminum under panel but I would rather spend $450-500 for a complete aluminum underpanel (front bumper past oil pan).
Last edited by Highway8; 12-29-2008 at 11:55 PM.
12-30-2008, 12:10 AM
#31
The OEM undertray is really flimsy. I've replaced several plastic screws and I probably need to check it to see if I need to replace more. I would replace mine just for durability reasons.
According to others on the forum the RX-8 already has an incredibly stiff chassis and I'm skeptical whether the increased stiffness will offset the added weight.
Maybe when I start tracking more often these will appeal to me more.
Also if the undertray helped with radiator temps I'm sure more people would be interested.
According to others on the forum the RX-8 already has an incredibly stiff chassis and I'm skeptical whether the increased stiffness will offset the added weight.
Maybe when I start tracking more often these will appeal to me more.
Also if the undertray helped with radiator temps I'm sure more people would be interested.
So Rest assured the products won't go into production if I and the tester do not feel a benefit to be had.
We here at Fluid all compete in autocrosses, so we will be putting this to the test.
12-30-2008, 02:22 AM
#36
$315 is a lot more tempting.
think of it this way. you'll probably sell a good deal of them, so your margins have to be less.
also, rx8strakes floods ebay with their products. are you doing the same? i know they make a lot of their money off ebay. if you arent, i'd check into it, you might reach another demographic. instead of the enthusiast demographic, you might reach the ricerboy demographic. but lol, it shouldnt matter to you. you'll be moving product.
think of it this way. you'll probably sell a good deal of them, so your margins have to be less.
also, rx8strakes floods ebay with their products. are you doing the same? i know they make a lot of their money off ebay. if you arent, i'd check into it, you might reach another demographic. instead of the enthusiast demographic, you might reach the ricerboy demographic. but lol, it shouldnt matter to you. you'll be moving product.
12-30-2008, 11:07 AM
#37
$315 is a lot more tempting.
think of it this way. you'll probably sell a good deal of them, so your margins have to be less.
also, rx8strakes floods ebay with their products. are you doing the same? i know they make a lot of their money off ebay. if you arent, i'd check into it, you might reach another demographic. instead of the enthusiast demographic, you might reach the ricerboy demographic. but lol, it shouldnt matter to you. you'll be moving product.
think of it this way. you'll probably sell a good deal of them, so your margins have to be less.
also, rx8strakes floods ebay with their products. are you doing the same? i know they make a lot of their money off ebay. if you arent, i'd check into it, you might reach another demographic. instead of the enthusiast demographic, you might reach the ricerboy demographic. but lol, it shouldnt matter to you. you'll be moving product.
I tend to agree with getting the ricer boy demographic which leads to our next major launch demographic.
Tiered Sponsorship levels for all different forms of competition.
Car Shows
Local Meets
Autocrossing
Track Events
Daily Drivers
All pushing Fluid Motorsports on an National and International Scale, creating a massive network of enthusiasts for all kinds of car owners, not just RX-8 owners.
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12-30-2008, 01:18 PM
#40
The reason ebay can destroy a product image is that many of the products are not backed by a real business/shop and have no R&D behind them. Ebay does a great job with advertisment and is a great way to move product and increase a business/products visability. I sell a complete line of non-automotive products on ebay and they move well and reach customers who would not otherwise buy on-line. The product image is not effected in anyway. If you are not allowed then discusion over.
Love the idea of many of the bracing products but for many cost will become an issue. You might want to address what makes your products a better value then the autoexe kit (about $650) or the mazdatrix version $350. Beat rush also has some products but they are priced substantially more.
12-30-2008, 07:31 PM
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12-30-2008, 10:28 PM
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But enough about that
If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.
The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.
The benefits of GTSPEC over other brands for one is they use Military-Grade 6061 Aluminum and precision cut CNC steel brackets for super light weight but excellent stiffness where it is needed most.
12-31-2008, 08:20 AM
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They don't want the lowest bidder atmosphere to be started, they want a niche market where part whoring and undercutting is not occurring. Better for dealers and Manufactures both. If I cannot move a product at a decent profit I won't carry it. Hence they lose dealers, a very important part of the market and in the longrun the consumer looses out to becasue they won't know the product existed nor will it be pushed into the market like I do. It is impossible for them to get their name out to every single niche and community.
But enough about that
Correct, it is elminating chassis flex by creating the triangluar support in the front subframe and unibody area.
If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.
The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.
The benefits of GTSPEC over other brands for one is they use Military-Grade 6061 Aluminum and precision cut CNC steel brackets for super light weight but excellent stiffness where it is needed most.
But enough about that
Correct, it is elminating chassis flex by creating the triangluar support in the front subframe and unibody area.
If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.
The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.
The benefits of GTSPEC over other brands for one is they use Military-Grade 6061 Aluminum and precision cut CNC steel brackets for super light weight but excellent stiffness where it is needed most.
12-31-2008, 12:13 PM
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how thick is the undertray and will it cover the oil pan? I may be interested if it can serve as a mild skidplate for road rally and rallycross, though honestly, $425 is pretty expensive for me.
12-31-2008, 01:36 PM
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Correct, it is elminating chassis flex by creating the triangluar support in the front subframe and unibody area.
If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.
The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.
If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.
The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.
12-31-2008, 03:23 PM
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Correct, it is elminating chassis flex by creating the triangluar support in the front subframe and unibody area.
If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.
The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.
If you want positive feedback check out the 350Z community and Subie community they swear up and down about the quality and the benefits they have seen.
The Fender Braces alone are my most favorite.....installation isnt the easiest but well worth it from feedback from others who have purchased with the Z and subie community.