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Does Anyone Know??
what is the largest tire size for the RX8 could handle (width)?? Front/back?? cuz i'm seaching for a aftermarket rims right now, if the car is capable of putting on large tire size then i might decide on using more money to buy higher quality and lighter rims for my RX8....
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...it COMES with 18's... why would you need anything bigger than that?? the brakes are already small enough to put into 17's, which would probably be the best size to get if you're gonna buy new rims for it... more tyre sizes, cheaper, lighter, stronger, etc.
anyhoo, the width is already 8"... if you add more width, it's NOT going to help the handling of your car... do a search on the hundreds and hundreds of posts about this topic we've had... the heat of the debate was in august of last year... i remember it well
yes, check out the debate, get more info, and don't be an SCC tuner. they're retards.
anyhoo, the width is already 8"... if you add more width, it's NOT going to help the handling of your car... do a search on the hundreds and hundreds of posts about this topic we've had... the heat of the debate was in august of last year... i remember it well
yes, check out the debate, get more info, and don't be an SCC tuner. they're retards.
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Wakeech,
He said TIRE size, not WHEEL size. He didn't say he was going to get a bigger wheel, just a lighter, "nicer" wheel. I really like the wheels that come with the 8 but that's a matter of opinion.
I don't know the answer, but I did wonder about the same thing. I have no idea if wider tires would be better or not for handling, but some S03s would be nice!!
ERIK
He said TIRE size, not WHEEL size. He didn't say he was going to get a bigger wheel, just a lighter, "nicer" wheel. I really like the wheels that come with the 8 but that's a matter of opinion.
I don't know the answer, but I did wonder about the same thing. I have no idea if wider tires would be better or not for handling, but some S03s would be nice!!
ERIK
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If you want to drastically improve your handling spend the money on a coilover suspension and keep the stock wheels/tires. 225/45/18 size tires are plenty wide.. We don't even know how heavy the OEM wheels are. If you really want to reduce unsprung weight then going with ligher 17" rims would be the way to go.
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Originally posted by Quick_lude
If you really want to reduce unsprung weight then going with ligher 17" rims would be the way to go.
If you really want to reduce unsprung weight then going with ligher 17" rims would be the way to go.
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well...
for me i want to get widest tires possible for my RX8 that's y i'm asking how wide could it go? that's the question for this post...
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On an 8" wheel you can squeeze a 245/40-18. But I would only do that on the back where you are less likely to "tuck" the tire like you would on the front during cornering.
for instance the Kumho MX: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...model=Ecsta+MX
For the stock horsepower of 250, I don't think you are going to get much more performance out of the car using a wider tire (especially in the front).
Now if you plan to auto cross or drag race with slicks, a wider tire might give you slightly better performance (however, most of the performance gain will come from the use of slicks not necessarily the wider tire).
Remember, wider tires (and there corresponding rims) are ultimately heavier than narrower tires. So any additional traction is often offset by the additional weight of the tire.
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for instance the Kumho MX: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...model=Ecsta+MX
For the stock horsepower of 250, I don't think you are going to get much more performance out of the car using a wider tire (especially in the front).
Now if you plan to auto cross or drag race with slicks, a wider tire might give you slightly better performance (however, most of the performance gain will come from the use of slicks not necessarily the wider tire).
Remember, wider tires (and there corresponding rims) are ultimately heavier than narrower tires. So any additional traction is often offset by the additional weight of the tire.
-Mr. Wigggles
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Originally posted by wakeech
...it COMES with 18's... why would you need anything bigger than that?? the brakes are already small enough to put into 17's, which would probably be the best size to get if you're gonna buy new rims for it... more tyre sizes, cheaper, lighter, stronger, etc.
...it COMES with 18's... why would you need anything bigger than that?? the brakes are already small enough to put into 17's, which would probably be the best size to get if you're gonna buy new rims for it... more tyre sizes, cheaper, lighter, stronger, etc.
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Smoker,
It is simple. If your RX-8 came stock with 18" wheels then the smallest size that can be fitted are 17" due to front brake clearance.
If your RX-8 came stock with 16" wheels then 16" is the smallest that can be fitted.
It is simple. If your RX-8 came stock with 18" wheels then the smallest size that can be fitted are 17" due to front brake clearance.
If your RX-8 came stock with 16" wheels then 16" is the smallest that can be fitted.
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Originally posted by MrWigggles
On an 8" wheel you can squeeze a 245/40-18. But I would only do that on the back where you are less likely to "tuck" the tire like you would on the front during cornering...
On an 8" wheel you can squeeze a 245/40-18. But I would only do that on the back where you are less likely to "tuck" the tire like you would on the front during cornering...
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I wouldn't take a car that comes from the factory with the same size tires on the front/rear, and then only widen the rear tires. That would mess up the handling and balance of the car.
---jps
I wouldn't take a car that comes from the factory with the same size tires on the front/rear, and then only widen the rear tires. That would mess up the handling and balance of the car.
---jps
My current car the SC300 with manual transmission was offered with the following tire options in Japan. Some had 225 front and rear and some had 245 front and 275 rear. My friend runs 315's on the rear and wouldn't for a second change it.
I am currently running 245 and 275's in the rear and haven't noticed a reduction in performance.
I would guess that going with a 245 in the rear would create a little better grip and thus a little more understeer. Judging by the Autoweek video that might not be a bad thing - you'll have no problems getting the rear end loose according to that video.
Also any minor upset in balance would be compensated by a minor increase in straight line traction generated by the slightly wider tire.
Regardless, it is a minor change and will have minor impact whether its negative or my guess positive.
-Mr. Wigggles
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Originally posted by MrWigggles
My current car the SC300 with manual transmission was offered with the following tire options in Japan. Some had 225 front and rear and some had 245 front and 275 rear. My friend runs 315's on the rear and wouldn't for a second change it.
My current car the SC300 with manual transmission was offered with the following tire options in Japan. Some had 225 front and rear and some had 245 front and 275 rear. My friend runs 315's on the rear and wouldn't for a second change it.
...I am currently running 245 and 275's in the rear and haven't noticed a reduction in performance...
1) The car isn't all that impressive.
2) The driver isn't all that impressive.
3) You simply aren't driving the car hard enough for it to matter (most likely).
...I would guess that going with a 245 in the rear would create a little better grip and thus a little more understeer. Judging by the Autoweek video that might not be a bad thing - you'll have no problems getting the rear end loose according to that video...
...Also any minor upset in balance would be compensated by a minor increase in straight line traction generated by the slightly wider tire...
---jps
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Sput,
You act like someone is going to crash in burn because they made their rear tire 8% wider.
If it wasn't clear from my post,
It won't make much difference either way
-Mr. Wigggles
Ps. Not that I have turbo charged SC300, but this guy does http://www.sc300turbo.com/ and he has the exact same tire width and rims that I do. If you are ever in the Miami area and want to experience what a manual transmission SC300 (supra chasis) can do, give him a call. He reliably puts 575 RWHP to the ground and most importantly the car handles great.
You act like someone is going to crash in burn because they made their rear tire 8% wider.
If it wasn't clear from my post,
It won't make much difference either way
-Mr. Wigggles
Ps. Not that I have turbo charged SC300, but this guy does http://www.sc300turbo.com/ and he has the exact same tire width and rims that I do. If you are ever in the Miami area and want to experience what a manual transmission SC300 (supra chasis) can do, give him a call. He reliably puts 575 RWHP to the ground and most importantly the car handles great.