How do you know your pads are worn? Check them and see how much pad is left. You may be able to get them replaced under warranty. Or you may need to put some anti-vibration stuff on the backs of the pads.

You guys suck...I went ahead and ordered them anyway...guess I'll be the first dumb-a$$ to try these.

how bad are the pricing on those?

Pretty steep...$400 + tax if you buy them as a F-R set.

I know, I know, but I loved the CC-R's...I want something like those that I can still use on the street.

Anyone wanna buy a set of used CC-R's for a 2004+ STi? Only used for one track day at Willow Springs :)

$400!!

Umm... my axxess ultimates were $100 for all 4.

Hope you can tell the difference.:)

good lord

I imagine that's why Porsche uses them.

I imagine that you missed the key word..."properly"...

The stock rotors are plenty powerful enough with good pads. If you really want to improve your braking performance get wider tires.

A good test: if you set off your ABS under hard braking on flat dry pavement you need more tire not more brakes.

Porsche uses them because the " high performance" drivers that buy there cars think they are better. Same with Ferrari and a few others that come to mind. They don't do it cause they work better....only because they are expected to have them. At best they are lighter.....

Ask any Porsche driver that tracks his car a lot how the OEM drilled rotors last.

I was lucky to get 15K miles out of the ones on my 911...and that was with no track days

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/H...2/clueless.gif

For new car sales, yes.

At the track, in the upper competitive series, you'll see these on:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/143/3...4b7204.jpg?v=0

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Obvious overkill for the purposes of this thread. Drilled are fine for street driving if bling is desired.

Cheers.

I'm seriously turned on by that...for real...like, I'm not kidding...brb...

Had brake noises. After I inspected the pads. There were alot of pad life left so I applied BG stop squeal on them and brakes are ok so far(500+ miles).

Team, I asked about the CC-X's in other threads as well and no one seeems to have tried them...I got tired of waiting, I have a deadline.

Clueless the script, sounds more like: angry, has nothing positive to contribute.

$100 worth of dust?

http://www.miata.net/products/perform/axxis.html

Not trying to defend myself...I know $400 is a bit much, but at least recommend something cheaper that's as good.

I guess I am being defensive...I apologize...what I meant to say was yes I sure as hell hope that I can tell a difference :)

do the hawk ceramics have more stopping power than OEM? Or are they simply a low noise/dust alternative?

Supposedly same performance as Hawk HP+ but without the noise and dust...

I was thinking of trying them out after my HP+'s go...

Then I'll give my review from a track event...

Yup they make a lot of dust but they work great on the street and for track days. And I have $300 left over to spend on wheel cleaner.:) To me that's cheaper and just as good.

have a look at Project MU. they have a decent range and all work really well.