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tiltmode43 06-07-2009 11:26 PM

Lol what?

Who said anyone's setup is better than others? Aggressive fit threads are done on tons of forums, with plenty of success. This one looks like it's hit a wall though...

Ross_Dawg 06-07-2009 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by RMXG8 (Post 3057255)
i would have to disagree.

Ok then, explain to me how this setup will work if you dont plan on just driving down the street and back? Yeah, if you ran extreme camber and liked replacing tires every 1000 miles, you can run this ET. However, to me, this "doesn't fit". So enlighten me, how would you make this setup work?

T-ReX-8 06-07-2009 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3058318)
Lol what?

Who said anyone's setup is better than others? Aggressive fit threads are done on tons of forums, with plenty of success. This one looks like it's hit a wall though...

Agreed, no one is comparing anyones setup to another.. I think Rotor need to reread what was said. I'd also agree on the thread hitting a wall.. there ahve maybe been about 4-5 MAX cars actually poted in the entire thread which have an "aggressive fitment"..

How can I put it.. If you didn't have to at the very LEAST roll your fenders to get your setup to work, its not aggressive..:banghead::lol2:

dannobre 06-08-2009 12:27 AM

I run 18X10.5's with no fender mods......

Don't understand why you want to be more aggressive :)

Ross_Dawg 06-08-2009 12:28 AM

whats your suspension setup?

dannobre 06-08-2009 12:32 AM

KW v3's dropped to 26ish inches
front camber -2.5
rear 1.6

275/35/18 tires

RMXG8 06-08-2009 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3058355)
Ok then, explain to me how this setup will work if you dont plan on just driving down the street and back? Yeah, if you ran extreme camber and liked replacing tires every 1000 miles, you can run this ET. However, to me, this "doesn't fit". So enlighten me, how would you make this setup work?

easy run 205 35's....:lol:

RMXG8 06-08-2009 01:01 AM


Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3058318)
Lol what?

Who said anyone's setup is better than others? Aggressive fit threads are done on tons of forums, with plenty of success. This one looks like it's hit a wall though...


agree!!!

Ross_Dawg 06-08-2009 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by RMXG8 (Post 3058412)
easy run 205 35's....:lol:

haha... :squint:

I would pay you money to stretch 205's on a 9.5" wheel. In other words (and to repeat myself), IT DOESN'T FIT.

/rant

imput1234 06-08-2009 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3058434)
haha... :squint:

I would pay you money to stretch 205's on a 9.5" wheel. In other words (and to repeat myself), IT DOESN'T FIT.

/rant


actually you can stretch a 205 on a 9.5" wheel if you want to

Ross_Dawg 06-08-2009 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by imput1234 (Post 3058451)
actually you can stretch a 205 on a 9.5" wheel if you want to

Show me ;)

TeamRX8 06-08-2009 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 3058390)
I run 18X10.5's with no fender mods......

Don't understand why you want to be more aggressive :)

it was originally my setup; https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-wheels-tires-brakes-suspension-55/18-x-10-5s-fit-116988/

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL846.../299101637.jpg

TeamRX8 06-08-2009 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3058318)
Lol what?

Who said anyone's setup is better than others? Aggressive fit threads are done on tons of forums, with plenty of success. This one looks like it's hit a wall though...

take a close look, the tire sidewall isn't even touching the inner wheel lip edge

a little stretch is one thing, this is just dumb .... :wink2:

https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...1&d=1244453584

imput1234 06-08-2009 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Ross_Dawg (Post 3058482)
Show me ;)

https://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4053/tirespb3.png

that's actually a common stretch if you go on zilvia, or old school VW forums. I've seen a 175 on a 12" wheel, I think I posted that in the will it fit thread a long ass time ago.

Atilla 06-08-2009 11:10 AM

wow......just........wow

dillsrotary 06-08-2009 11:34 AM

agressive fitment means different things to different forums, here its proper offset, wide, no larger than 18 usually, i proper track set up instead of a show car stance. Most other car forums are ridiculuous offset, camber, height, etc. Most of them should be aggressive wheels that don't fit threads.

dannobre 06-08-2009 11:35 AM

It's still Dumb ;)

This thread is getting really Dumb too :)

Tire manufacturers have guidelines for tire/rim sizes for a reason......It's called SAFETY

To condone this type of thing is blatantly UNSAFE and DANGEROUS

I'm sorry if I sound like someones parent...but this is getting ridiculous :(

Ross_Dawg 06-08-2009 11:40 AM

Agree 100%. The car we drive is meant to be driven hard (auto-x, track, what have you) not some show car driving down the street that cant take a turn at more than 20 mph without ripping the fender off.

Jedi54 06-08-2009 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 3058857)
It's still Dumb ;)

This thread is getting really Dumb too :)

Tire manufacturers have guidelines for tire/rim sizes for a reason......It's called SAFETY

To condone this type of thing is blatantly UNSAFE and DANGEROUS

I'm sorry if I sound like someones parent...but this is getting ridiculous :(

completely agree.

rotarenvy 06-08-2009 04:25 PM

I tend to agree with the comments about stretching being unsafe. however drifting competition tends to use extreme stretches without issue. they seem to work the stretched tyres very hard with lots of hp and direction changes. it doesn't appear to be a regular occurrence them un-beading the stretched tyres :dunno:

T-ReX-8 06-08-2009 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by dillsrotary (Post 3058853)
agressive fitment means different things to different forums, here its proper offset, wide, no larger than 18 usually, i proper track set up instead of a show car stance. Most other car forums are ridiculuous offset, camber, height, etc. Most of them should be aggressive wheels that don't fit threads.

Umm.. no.

Aggressive is aggressive... That changes not, doesn't matter what car its on. I believe the word many are looking for is "extreme." If you have a really wide rim with a high offset that isn't flush with your fenders, it may be "extreme" in the fact you have such a wide wheel setup, but aggressive has to do with looks. Don't matter how wide it is, if the offset is wrong and it looks like a regular sized setup then it doesn't look aggressive..

Not that it matters to me either way lol.

tiltmode43 06-08-2009 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3058516)
take a close look, the tire sidewall isn't even touching the inner wheel lip edge

a little stretch is one thing, this is just dumb .... :wink2:

Until someone can firsthand prove stretch to specifically cause failure, any critiques as such are pointless. I've read plenty on zilvia of stretched tire and both ends of the spectrum (proponents and critics) are present. Result? No one has really proved it any more *dangerous* as long as you follow certain parameters. Keeping an eye on tire pressures being one, only stretching on wheels with a seat for the bead being another.

The reason it looks so much is because of the low profile. T-Rex's setup could also considered the same amount of "dangerous" do to the manufacturer's recommended width.

The idea of this thread was to see other aggressive setups, not hear from those who have never run stretched setups (and for good reason, you all think its foolish!). Criticizing is one thing, blatantly down talking without trying out both sides of the block is thickheaded ignorance.

Great, we've heard from all of you how stupid, silly, dumb, "retarded", life threatening, world ending, and potentially apocalyptic stretching tires may be. Will that stop any of us form doing it? Nope. I'll tell you what, find someone who has walked both sides of the track, see what they have to say. In the mean time, keep the blind opinions to yourselves.

With response to the reliability of stretched tires. Check out zilvia (Yes, that 240 forum led blindly by drifting kids who know nothing) and then see how relatively mild these setups are. Actually, scratch that, you'll all most likely criticize their stupidity as well...

To each his own; For the record, I'm a fan of square AND stretched tires, as well as everything in between. Done both setups, enjoyed them for different reasons.


Oh yeah, rotarenvy - you've got the idea...

tiltmode43 06-08-2009 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 3058390)
Don't understand why you want to be more aggressive :)

For the hell of it. Its fun doing things a bit different and challenging oneself. Different strokes for different folks! I'll soon be close to that - 265's :) I tried out 18x10.5 +2 for the hell of it but thought it a bit over the top!

dannobre 06-08-2009 06:47 PM

I mounted a set of 195's on a 10" wide wheels using propane....so don't tell me I've never done it.....but I think it's unsafe and stupid because all 4 of those tires failed due to sidewall failure.

They look cool..but if they get warm at all they demount in a catastrophic way

Each to his own....but people reading this thread need to know that it is not safe!

dannobre 06-08-2009 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by tiltmode43 (Post 3059683)
For the hell of it. Its fun doing things a bit different and challenging oneself. Different strokes for different folks! I'll soon be close to that - 265's :) I tried out 18x10.5 +2 for the hell of it but thought it a bit over the top!


For sure...the hell of it is always a good reason..you must be young ;)

But we know that they didn't FIT :lol: Don't even have to think about that one..they would have been sticking out about 2 inches past the fender lip even on a max rolled lip


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