Landon_Starr

I still have yet to be able to interpret the term "ghettoed out".

I understand you think they are ugly, but can you be a little more articulate/eloquent in your description why?

I know there has to be valuable input beneath all the emotional and vague ranting which is XeRo, but please help me dig it out. I appreciate input, but at least be a little descriptive.

You seem to talk a lot, but you really don't SAY anything. Judging by your modifications (volk wheels, etc.) I would assume you're a performance enthusiast?? Not willing to sacrifice performance for looks, and I can GUESS that this is where the comments stem from, but I'm still a little vague...?

--Landon

RxGuru

XeRo

I simply stated that 20" wheels on an SUV do not belong. Reason being is that they are primarily made for hauling and four wheeling. On the other hand, with sports cars, they are meant to be showcased rather than beat on. Putting 20's would just simply enhance the effect that you have "One Bad A** 8". It is more for look, and I agree, but to put them on an SUV would just be a complete waste. I will be putting 20's on my 8, but I choose not to get chrome. That is just my opinion. But my 8 will look sharp.

Thanks Landon for backing me on my thoughts......

As for XeRo, you need to relax with the vulgarity. If you have nothing decent to say, then please keep it to yourself or say it in a tone that is respectable.

Kel Rx8

Landon_Starr
everyone has their own opinion
i personally dont think 20 are that big for a rx-8
depending on what u want to do with it.
in your case pimp.
i like the way '19 look with a staggered rear wheel
prefferably 9.5 to 10.5 :p
either way nice ride

XeRo

man o' man....excuse the vulgarity then...as if it's not present everywhere else...

simply put...i just don't think that big of a wheel belongs on an RX-8...but like I SAID BEFORE>..it's yours and do what you want...

IMO...(and I may be the only one here) I just think (like I also have explained before when you first posted pics of your car Landon_Starr) I think 20" wheels and bigger are a waste of money and you're right I am a performance enthusiast that also believes in FORM = FUNCTION, there is no point in my mind that serves as a reasoning behind buying such a large diameter wheel...the only thing that I can think of and this is MY definition of GHETTO is; you see ghetto inhabitants driving delapidated vehicles either with primer or "candy paint" or rusted with massive BOOMING stereos that shake their trunk lids, creating aweful noise, then you look at the wheels and they have these HUGE 20" ( i actually think 20's are considered to small now) or bigger wheels that are SCREAMING, " I spent all my money on $8000 wheels, check me out as I roll by your crib...I'll Holla!"

I see some points of having wheels like that for SHOWS...i used to participate in Show-Off events and Sound Off events all around the southeast and RX-GURU and Landon_Starr if I still was in that line of work I probably would outfit a car or SUV with wheels like that BUT ONLY FOR SHOW....

But that's my opinion like I've stated...i didn't mean any disrespect in anything I've said...sometimes I come across rather harse....but hey that's my personality...

Good luck with your wheels and I know you'll like them, i'm just saying as a matter of opinion, I don't...thats all...

peace...we're all RX-8 owners.....

mdw33333

XeRo, I believe you've made some valid points.

Landon_Starr

I believe so, too. I fully agree, it's disgusting to see the primer colored vehicle worth $800 with $4000 worth of rims and a $3000 stereo system. I just wanted XeRo to elaborate on his point so everyone else could follow him. All too often people have excellent points, but won't articulate enough for people to understand them.

As I stated in a previous post, I knew where he was going, but I wanted everyone else to know, too. This forum serves an excellent function of providing information and valid considerations to people, but with vague, opinionated adjectives, we defeat the purpose of this forum.

Well put, XeRo. :D

Just as a background, I am into shows (just local), and the 20" wheels are serving this type of purpose. There's no better advertising for wheels than putting them on a cool car that people notice.

I thought about putting them on a primered out 88 accord with the resonating muffler attachment, but I decided that probably wouldn't get as much attention.

Thanks again for your input, XeRo!!!

--Landon

beachdog

I think that Landon_Starr has hit on something here. Those 255 35 20's will increase my MPG from average of 18mpg to 18.25mpg. This thread now has the obligatory reference to mpg

Landon_Starr

Good observation, beach dog.

But, I bet the additional force to turn the larger wheels will make up for the gain in gas mileage. We'd have to get the physics professor(seems like it, anyway), MrWiggles to expand on the idea. :D

He had some very valuable comments on un-sprung weight ratios and how it affects performance, I'm sure he could expand on the MPG affect, too.

--Landon

XeRo

If the whole wheel thing is the same, (as I am quite sure it is), it goes the same way as in building offroad vehicles. I have a tremendous amount of experience in building Jeeps and their offroad cousins and for example when I went from stock 225/75R15 to 35x12.5x16 SSR's WOW!...did I not only see a difference in MPG but in power loss...now of course that is a WAY bigger difference than we are talking here..but ....the same principle applies though...in order to regain and MPG and power to my liking...I had to swap gear ratio's which if anyone knows can be tricky when trying to match power gains to fuel consumption...either way 20" wheels I must disagree, i don't see the possibility of GAINING MPG's ...unless that is subtle sarcasm above....

Landon_Starr

With bigger wheels that weigh less than the stock wheels(which sould be somewhat easy to find), I would assume you COULD improve MPG. As you stated though, XeRo, usually bigger the wheels the worse the MPG.

Put 38" tires on a toyota pickup(6 cyl), went from about 15 mpg to 8. Ugly. Not to mention it's now gutless.

--Landon

beachdog

sarcasm - absolutely!

SHOWOFF

I talked with RJ DeVera at the NOPI Nationals in Sept of '03 and he was saying that RO_JA is working on a more "tuner look" wheel that is 20" and the donor vehicle is an 8.

mikeb

can I be the DONOR PLEASE?

mental pimp

no, no u cant!

mikeb

you aren't even in charge of your BEDTIME you can't tell me if I'm gonna get sponsered or not

mental pimp

blah

Genom

lol. Good one Mike.

Dunno about the 20's, but I seen some 19's that looked pretty nice to me.

Landon_Starr

Yeah, 20's aren't for the faint of heart....:D j/k.

1SICKLEX

20s on a RX-8 look stupid to me. 18s look great with a drop, 19s the max. 20s are for show only and it's showing stupid. It ruins the looks, now like a canoe.
BUt nowadays, it's dubs or nothing. Especially for the people (all the noobs) that don't know jack **** about fitment or cars.

Landon_Starr

Ahh, yes, I see. A canoe. I definitely see where you're coming from, being we're talking about wheels, and a canoe doesn't seem to have any (last time I checked, anyway).

I mean honestly.....Try to sound at least a LITTLE bit credible if you're going to offer an opinion.

In your flaming about noobs not knowing anything about fitment, I was an MTS (Tire Manager) for Firestone for a few years, and I seem to have a pretty strong grasp on fitment and tire sizes.

p.s. I'll try to be nicer as soon as you try to be smarter.

:D j/k. Light-hearted jabs.

--Landon

Landon_Starr

Here's another pic I took. Shows the 20's with the appearance package, I think it ended up making the wheels look like they belong a LITTLE bit better.

It also gives an excellent view of the "canoe" aspects of the car. Maybe? :D

Landon_Starr

Better one of the back wheel.....

XDEEDUBBX

sorry but those chromies are nasty... just my opinion...i give you props for fittin on some Dubbz but those rims are very ugly!...

Landon_Starr

Guess you can't please everyone.

Like when my ex-girlfriend saw me naked and asked "who you going to please with that thing?" I responded "ME, bitch" & bent her over.

Maybe not exactly like that, but general idea, I think. ??

heh heh.

Appreciate the feedback.

--Landon

hasg

hahahaha