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Danmn858 08-02-2011 08:18 PM

19x10 +20 no stretch, no rubbin. *PICS*
 
I have made a few previous threads in which people have trolled about the choice I made in wheel. My wheels dont rub at all.

18x8.5 +30 in the front, 255/40 tires, -2 camber, toe is 0
19x10 +20 in the rear, 275/35 tires, -5 camber, toe is 0
Tein S-techs, Koni Yellows, Megan Racing upper control arms
Fenders rolled and pulled to perfection, not even noticeable.
Rear wheels are tucked.


http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_1613.jpg
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/...8/P1030248.jpg
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/...8/P1030249.jpg
http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/...suspension.jpg

paimon.soror 08-02-2011 08:22 PM

looks good, some epic camber in the rear

fuztupnz 08-02-2011 08:23 PM

Congrats on running a ridiculous amount of negative camber. You really showed us.

paimon.soror 08-02-2011 08:29 PM

lol gunna hate to see what the wear pattern is on those tires after a couple thousand miles

Danmn858 08-02-2011 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by fuztupnz (Post 4046025)
Congrats on running a ridiculous amount of negative camber. You really showed us.

Thanks paimon.
...and whats wrong with camber? You cant have aggressive fitment like that without camber. I could have easily just stretched tires on and ran -2 or -3 degrees but I hate the look of stretched tires.

Danmn858 08-02-2011 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4046031)
lol gunna hate to see what the wear pattern is on those tires after a couple thousand miles

Haha I'll post some pics up at the end of next summer or something. These tires will maybe see 3000 miles a year.

fuztupnz 08-02-2011 08:31 PM

See above.

Too much negative camber and you'll eat through tires, kill the suspension geometry and jack up the handling. Other than that, nothing.

Sifu 08-02-2011 08:41 PM

You should look into coilovers to pull off an aggressive stance to match your aggressive wheel size.

It looks like your rear can use another pull and that way you can eliminate some of the camber.

RXGuh 08-02-2011 08:43 PM

So you didn't want to run stretch but willing to run stupid camber? LOL

BTW your lip is barely hanging on...

paimon.soror 08-02-2011 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046033)
Thanks paimon.
...and whats wrong with camber? You cant have aggressive fitment like that without camber. I could have easily just stretched tires on and ran -2 or -3 degrees but I hate the look of stretched tires.

See: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=4


What's the downside to negative camber? Negative camber leans both tires on the axle towards the center of the vehicle. Each tire develops an equal and offsetting "camber thrust" force (the same principle that causes a motorcycle to turn when it leans) even when the vehicle is driven straight ahead. If the vehicle encounters a bump that only causes one tire to lose some of its grip, the other tire's negative camber will push the vehicle in the direction of the tire that lost grip. The vehicle may feel more "nervous" and become more susceptible to tramlining. Excessive camber will also reduce the available straight-line grip required for rapid acceleration and hard stops

MazdaManiac 08-02-2011 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046033)
...and whats wrong with camber? You cant have aggressive fitment like that without camber.

That's like saying you can't have open sores on your face without smoking meth.

Originally Posted by fuztupnz (Post 4046036)
Too much negative camber and you'll eat through tires, kill the suspension geometry and jack up the handling. Other than that, nothing.

Exactly.

Congratulations on doing something that not only looks stupid, but actually is stupid - destroying the primary positive attribute of the RX-8: its handling.

Danmn858 08-02-2011 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4046049)

Congratulations on doing something that not only looks stupid, but actually is stupid - destroying the primary positive attribute of the RX-8: its handling.

It's a show car, and everyone has their own taste... my car wins shows so obviously other people like it too.
As for coilovers, I am buying a pair of stance coilovers soon, will install them in the spring when I'm back from school. As for now, I have one last show this saturday and I'm off to California in a week, then back to the Chicago for school. So the car will be garage bound until may ha. Even with the camber like this, the tires will probably last me years because the car gets driven 100 miles a week and only in the summer.
Honda Pilot dd ftw.

paimon.soror 08-02-2011 09:20 PM

throw the car on stands if you plan on going away for months .... tires will be all kinds of fuxored with that camber sitting without movement

Rotary-RX8 08-02-2011 09:20 PM

For some reason it looks like your rear passenger side looks alot higher than your right side.


But anyways it looks alright. People have pulled off way more aggressive set ups than this lol (tilt)

Danmn858 08-02-2011 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by RXGuh (Post 4046047)
BTW your lip is barely hanging on...

and I dont know what you're talking about with that? The lip is very on. secured properly and sits flush with bumper. If you're looking at the part that cuts into the airdam space, its supposed to be like that, it narrows the opening... dumbass.

canaryrx8 08-02-2011 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4046049)
Congratulations on doing something that not only looks stupid, but actually is stupid - destroying the primary positive attribute of the RX-8: its handling.

meh, could be worse, he could have put air ride on it :lol:




















:D:

Danmn858 08-02-2011 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by paimon.soror (Post 4046075)
throw the car on stands if you plan on going away for months .... tires will be all kinds of fuxored with that camber sitting without movement

I have another set of wheels, car will be at zero camber when its put away and on the 17's.

Atilla 08-02-2011 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046033)
Thanks paimon.
...and whats wrong with camber? You cant have aggressive fitment like that without camber. I could have easily just stretched tires on and ran -2 or -3 degrees but I hate the look of stretched tires.

^this made my day. :rofl:

Looks like someone needed to do some more homework...

dannobre 08-02-2011 09:48 PM

Well...I run 10.5" X 18" rims on the rear with 275 tires and don't rub, don't run stupid camber.....and they fit cause I have the correct offset wheels...DUH

Danmn858 08-02-2011 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 4046100)
Well...I run 10.5" X 18" rims on the rear with 275 tires and don't rub, don't run stupid camber.....and they fit cause I have the correct offset wheels...DUH

But I like my wheels :)

TopGear8 08-02-2011 09:56 PM

If its a show car why do you have Rotas?

dannobre 08-02-2011 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046107)
But I like my wheels :)

LOL...then all is well :)

RXGuh 08-02-2011 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046078)
and I dont know what you're talking about with that? The lip is very on. secured properly and sits flush with bumper. If you're looking at the part that cuts into the airdam space, its supposed to be like that, it narrows the opening... dumbass.

Lol you are getting butthurt over your Rotas on your showcar :cwm27:.

I don't see any gaps in these like yours...

It's a good thing you are going back to school dumbass.

http://image1.shopserve.jp/burnout-w...img/kd4c_1.jpg

http://image1.shopserve.jp/burnout.y...bo/kd42f_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/P1030249.jpg

Danmn858 08-02-2011 11:11 PM

They're not Rotas....

Danmn858 08-02-2011 11:13 PM

Also, clearly not the same lip. That one is much thinner than mine. Same style I guess? But not the same lip.... and it saddens me that you have to much time on your hands ha.

RXGuh 08-02-2011 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046172)
Also, clearly not the same lip. That one is much thinner than mine. Same style I guess? But not the same lip.... and it saddens me that you have to much time on your hands ha.

Either way...if your car is what a show winner in the Mazda class. That is a joke.

Good luck with your "show winning" car.

It's funny how I have free time to be on the forums and so are you at night?

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

Roidz 08-02-2011 11:33 PM

Doesn't look too bad, but like previously said, there goes the handling. To each their own though.

monchie 08-03-2011 12:02 AM

Don't listen to those haters...lol

Anyway, your car looks good though...to each, their own ;)

bose 08-03-2011 12:12 AM

Those are XXR's guys they are WAY better than Rotas.

9krpmrx8 08-03-2011 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by bose (Post 4046220)
Those are XXR's guys they are WAY better than Rotas.

Yeah.......................How so?

TopGear8 08-03-2011 01:09 AM

They are styled like rotas, regardless they look awful.

MazdaManiac 08-03-2011 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by dannobre (Post 4046100)
Well...I run 10.5" X 18" rims on the rear with 275 tires and don't rub, don't run stupid camber.....and they fit cause I have the correct offset wheels...DUH

I think most of us that race run 10" or so with 275s in the back. That is kinda the point I was making.


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046071)
It's a show car

Huh? It is a virtually stock RX-8 with poorly fitted wheels.
Two carbon-fiber-esque pieces is not a show car.:lol2:

TeamRX8 08-03-2011 01:39 AM

a 275 tire with -5 deg camber on an RX-8 is equal to having a 155 tire at the proper camber setting, congratulations on taking one step forward and two steps back ..

Rigoherrera 08-03-2011 01:50 AM

damm clean ass car bro! love the rotas, replica lip, gap in the front, different color eyelids, and that baller natural lean ur car has to the driver side! boss! well executed!

:squint:
:dragster:

see what i did there...

tiltmode43 08-03-2011 04:00 AM

Let's see how long this thread gets.

fuztupnz 08-03-2011 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by canaryrx8 (Post 4046080)
meh, could be worse, he could have put air ride on it :lol:

:D:

:rollingla coming from you it has me rolling.

dlum125 08-03-2011 05:56 AM

lulz. haters gun hate.. i dig except the different wheel sizes and the front could have been more aggressive, but other than that, nice. and i'm looking forward to the coils! car will look much much better.

J8635621 08-03-2011 09:33 AM

That looks fantastic. You really showed me. I was obviously wrong that it wasn't going to fit correctly. roflofloflfolfoflfol

Atilla 08-03-2011 09:40 AM

^:lol:

RXeligion 08-03-2011 10:23 AM

I saw a minivan last last week that had the same "aggressive" wheel fitment... but it was still a minivan:smoker:


Maybe we (I) just don't "get it." OP - What made you want to go with this much camber?

canaryrx8 08-03-2011 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by dlum125 (Post 4046333)
lulz. haters gun hate.. i dig except the different wheel sizes and the front could have been more aggressive, but other than that, nice. and i'm looking forward to the coils! car will look much much better.

Well no, actually a "hater" spews out nonsense unprovoked. I don't see any "haters" in this thread, now if this guy had a sick ass car with all the trimmings and a few guys here and there were baggin' on it then yes, that would be "hating", but instead we get called "broke ass" and such without provocation....sooo who's the hater here then? :dunno:

Nice job on buiilding the ultimate troll mobile, I guess you were calling people out from the get go as you knew your car and it's multitude of flaws was going to get flamed pretty badly....that or you just didn't know any better. :o:

Danmn858 08-03-2011 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by canaryrx8 (Post 4046610)
Well no, actually a "hater" spews out nonsense unprovoked. I don't see any "haters" in this thread, now if this guy had a sick ass car with all the trimmings and a few guys here and there were baggin' on it then yes, that would be "hating", but instead we get called "broke ass" and such without provocation....sooo who's the hater here then? :dunno:

Nice job on buiilding the ultimate troll mobile, I guess you were calling people out from the get go as you knew your car and it's multitude of flaws was going to get flamed pretty badly....that or you just didn't know any better. :o:

Do I really need to take the effort to take pictures of the trophies? haha. I was calling everyone out per say, just previous trollers haha. And people are just making up flaws, the lip fits perfectly, the car does not lean, does not rub, the headlights are custom painted and they are color matched perfectly. To each there own, you guys enter some shows, lemme know how it goes. (really, let me know, some of you actually have really nice 8's) ha

bose 08-03-2011 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4046224)
Yeah.......................How so?

They don't rip off other brands styles yo! They rip off the rip offs, but at least they have their own designs (kind of), and they cost almost half the price of Rotas. So yeah...

J8635621 08-03-2011 11:28 AM

Being totally honest, if that car won a trophy I wouldn't be proud of it. Either no one else entered or it was like little league and they give out trophies to everyone. That last guy you quoted had his car at SEMA. Nice choice.

MazdaManiac 08-03-2011 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046618)
Do I really need to take the effort to take pictures of the trophies?

No. We don't care.


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046618)
you guys enter some shows, lemme know how it goes. (really, let me know, some of you actually have really nice 8's) ha

I did the show circuit for years with this car and the three that proceeded it. After I got multi-page features in a few well-known magazines, I kinda lost interest.

If you are gonna be serious about showing the car (and I don't mean in some Podunk local show run by the Knights of Columbus or something), you are going to have to get an education in this quick or you are gonna be pissed.

A clean stocker with a few carbon bits is not a showcar.

Danmn858 08-03-2011 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4046629)

A clean stocker

...was...was that a compliment? gasp. haha
I went to go look at pics of your car but I cant view your albums. damness
and yeah I really like the (previously bagged) yellow 8.

MazdaManiac 08-03-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046635)
...was...was that a compliment? gasp.

Not particularly. Just an observation. You are the one that said you hardly drive it.
Though, if I went to a show with a suspension that was that dirty and banged up as it is in your photos, I would have lost too many points to win.


Originally Posted by Danmn858 (Post 4046635)
I went to go look at pics of your car but I cant view your albums.

Albums? Those were links to threads. lol Just click them.
You see where stuff I typed is underlined?

Danmn858 08-03-2011 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 4046638)
Not particularly. Just an observation. You are the one that said you hardly drive it.
Though, if I went to a show with a suspension that was that dirty and banged up as it is in your photos, I would have lost too many points to win.



Albums? Those were links to threads. lol Just click them.
You see where stuff I typed is underlined?

ohhh...
and yes the pics look dirty because it was right after the install of the upper control arm. I clean all of that before/at shows no worries.

Danmn858 08-03-2011 12:06 PM

WOW, thats your car?
I've actually seen the spread before. great looking 8.
Also... am I the only one that hates hinson motorsports? They have been saying "pricing next week" for like a year.

200.mph 08-03-2011 01:27 PM

op please tell me that your plate is not a dale jr nascar refrence


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