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rockyison 05-11-2010 05:54 PM

white smoke no cel?? anyone help PLEASE
 
hey guys this is the 2nd time this happened to me =\ I searched for hours, but still i found stuff that were similar but not my problem...I just turned on my car and drove a bit and white smoke started coming out and i mean crazy amount of white smoke...CEL not on...not really smelling any fumes...so im not sure if its cat failure or what...i dont know what to do and im kinda stuck at a jamba juice cause my car is smoking...anyone help?
EDIT: i live in socal so its really hot right now..so it cant be a warming/cold temp. issue.

alnielsen 05-11-2010 05:56 PM

This is starting to pop up a bit on here.
White smoke is an indication of a coolant leak into the rotor housing. Dark smoke is oil. How old is your car and how many miles are on it?

rockyison 05-11-2010 05:58 PM

i have an 04 and about 78k miles? 6 speed how do i check this =\

zoom44 05-11-2010 05:59 PM

where in socal are you?

you know any of the other socal members?

did you just wash your car? how long have you owned the car? any changes to the car recently?

rockyison 05-11-2010 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3554567)
where in socal are you?

you know any of the other socal members?

did you just wash your car? how long have you owned the car? any changes to the car recently?


sorry for my vague description =\ its cause im stuck at a jamba juice and panicing sigh*....i know dozer but i hate bothering him and i cant really drive the car right now esspecially with all the smoke =\....no i havent washed my car, i owned the car for a couple months....i just got new tranny oil, and new oil, but replacing oil in another 1kmiles (i topped off oil too) uhhhh..did brakes? :p i have spark plugs and ic but really not sure on the diys (not so smart in the head)

alnielsen 05-11-2010 06:03 PM

The engine is warrantied by Mazda for 8 yrs/100K miles.
Leave the car setting overnight. Before you start it up in the morning remove all plug wires and one sparkplug from each rotor. Turn over the engine and see what kind of fluid comes out.

When mine did this, about 3 yrs ago, the car would sputter for about 10-15 min in the morning when it was first started. It would run fine for the rest of the day. Mazda replaced the engine. It sounds like you are getting a lot more smoke than I did.

rockyison 05-11-2010 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3554574)
The engine is warrantied by Mazda for 8 yrs/100K miles.
Leave the car setting overnight. Before you start it up in the morning remove all plug wires and one sparkplug from each rotor. Turn over the engine and see what kind of fluid comes out.

When mine did this, about 3 yrs ago, the car would sputter for about 10-15 min in the morning when it was first started. It would run fine for the rest of the day. Mazda replaced the engine. It sounds like you are getting a lot more smoke than I did.

dang...um...how do i turn over the engine and what kind of fluids should come out?

alnielsen 05-11-2010 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by rockyison (Post 3554578)
dang...um...how do i turn over the engine and what kind of fluids should come out?

With the starter. It won't start because you have removed the spark plug wires.
If the fluid is just gas, your golden and we have to look else where. If it is slippery, like coolant, you have a problem. Have you checked your coolant levels? With the amount of smoke you are describing, it could have gone down a bit.

zoom44 05-11-2010 06:47 PM

IC? did you say plugs and IC?

zoom44 05-11-2010 06:50 PM

make me do my own research :anger:

did you do this decarb?

https://www.rx8club.com/west-rx-8-forum-34/decarbing-help-194787/

rockyison 05-11-2010 06:50 PM

spark plugs and ignition coils** sorry bout that. well is there anything i can do as of now? im stuck at a jamba juice and i turned on the car 3 times now but smoke will come out. any options?

zoom44 05-11-2010 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3554627)
make me do my own research :anger:

did you do this decarb?

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=194787



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rockyison 05-11-2010 06:53 PM

i actually never decarbed or used sea foam cause i heard mixed reviews from socal 8 owners =\ so i wasnt sure if i should do it anymore...i asked dozer and he said he never did it and he been running fine, so i didn't do it. should i do it? and should i do it before i replace my coils and plugs? cause im planning on replacing my coils and plugs asap (hopefully today) sorry for all the stress =\

zoom44 05-11-2010 07:31 PM

why would you replace them if you just did so? stop . get the car to a competent garage. have them diagnose whats wrong.

rockyison 05-12-2010 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3554638)
why would you replace them if you just did so? stop . get the car to a competent garage. have them diagnose whats wrong.

i havent replaced my coils and plugs yet, i took it to a garage yesterday, the mechanic says im burning oil, but he cant figure out why im burning oil ( he was like a dog...he smelled the white fumes and was like i knew it was oil lol)...i asked him if i needed to replace my coils and plugs he said they dont seem bad and besides that doesnt deal with why you are burning oil...anyone know why i would be burning oil?

zoom44 05-12-2010 01:46 PM

you're supposed to burn oil- you have a rotary. blue smoke is oil. white smoke is coolant/water. if the mechanic believes white smoke is oil smoke then they are not competent. is there more than one mechanic there that can render an opinion? if so ask for a different person. if not go somewhere else.

rockyison 05-12-2010 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by zoom44 (Post 3555630)
you're supposed to burn oil- you have a rotary. blue smoke is oil. white smoke is coolant/water. if the mechanic believes white smoke is oil smoke then they are not competent. is there more than one mechanic there that can render an opinion? if so ask for a different person. if not go somewhere else.

i went to multiple mechanics they say the smoke smells like oil burning...yea it doesnt make sense to me either =\ the only thing that i can think of is that when i put lucas in gas compartment...could it be the carb releasing? the white smoke doesnt smell sweet like coolant and it has a smell so it cant be water =\ so could it be carbon build up releasing? what ya think?

p.s. thanks alot zoom ur working very hard on giving me advice and i greatly appreciate it man :mdrmed:

zoom44 05-12-2010 04:37 PM

the only other thing that would burn with white smoke is the cat.

zoom44 05-12-2010 04:39 PM

dude post in the socal regional forum and get some of the guys to look at your car.

rockyison 05-13-2010 12:13 PM

hey zoom im really sorry, but the white smoke is gone now? the mechanic said he left it on for an hour and the smoke completely went away, when i got to him and turned it on it was very light smoke but i could see it...now theres no more smoke...i dont wanna say problem solved...but for now its solved? :p thanks alot zoom for all ur help...i dont know wth is going on but its workign as of now...but dont really wanna take my chances...but i will anyways :p lol hopefully i cna grab some socal help :D thanks :fruit:


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