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Old 11-24-2004, 06:01 PM
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a real loud growl and its really not comfortable at all in first gear starting out, not really grinding
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Another 8 With Trans.problems

well just to let you guys know my 2 gear will not go in on high rpms .if i shift at 3
to 5 there is no problems after that its a no no. any idea what it could be ????

ill be installing my stock springs and taking it to the dealer next week i dont want them making excuses saying it the springs.
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According to the last guy with transmission problems, the dealer said his K&N caused it. So definitely return it to stock as much as possible.
Old 12-09-2004, 12:02 PM
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synchro problem perhaps? have you tried speed matching?
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whats that ,, i been testing it and it does it all the time when lets say the car is at a dead stop ill take off at 4 rpms and then try to put 2 at like 8 rpms its just grinds and will not go in. my friend said it might be a safety feature i told him no way redline on this car is 9 1/2.
Old 12-09-2004, 12:12 PM
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matching the speed at which you shift with the speed of the vehicle, aka rev matching

probably said better than i can here

https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/speed-shifting-rev-matching-46754/
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abbid i heard lots of stories like that they will try to nail you any way they can ,i hope that guy didnt agree to that .the only thing iam taking my car with is my exhaust.
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As dumb as it sounds, and I'm sure you're a skilled driver, you can't rush that 1-2 shift or it will grind - clutch all the way in, keep it in, snick-snick, back out. Sounds to me like you're rushing the clutch and slamming the lever home. Try slowing down your shift a bit ...
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Originally Posted by StewC625
As dumb as it sounds, and I'm sure you're a skilled driver, you can't rush that 1-2 shift or it will grind - clutch all the way in, keep it in, snick-snick, back out. Sounds to me like you're rushing the clutch and slamming the lever home. Try slowing down your shift a bit ...

You may have a point ,i may do like 2 to 4 more runs when the weather gets better,but i seriously dont think iam doing anything wrong. that would never happen to me before ,it only grinds when i try to put it in high rpms otherwise its perfect.
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Try doing an exaggeratedly slow shift without the goal of fast acceleration - gently run the car up to 8 grand or so at very low-part-throttle opening, then clutch in, click click, clutch out ... if it doesn't go in then, you have an issue. And don't let the revs fall too far off - the rev-drop between 1st and 2nd is about 1200 RPM - so if you clutch in at 8000, be sure to get the shift done before the revs fall below 6500. If you're successful there, then practice more doing performance-oriented accelleration runs.
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they have to prove that whatever mods you have or they are citing was directly responsible for the failure in the part. I want to know what they said- "the huge increase in power brought from the intake made the tranny fail"
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Well the manual they were waiting on came in yesterday. Hopefully I'll know more next week.
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What's the deal with the two of you in AZ? Did you both purchase from the same dealer? Just wondering if there wasn't some serious abuse by someone at the dealer either pre-delivery or while you were in for service.
Old 12-10-2004, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Boxcar
My problem started with 2nd gear and seems to have slowly spread. As of 2 days ago I was not able to go into 1st unless I was under 4mph. Yesterday I got bumped out of 3rd since I didn't want to force it. It was weird, almost like trying to put it in gear w/o having the clutch fully disengaged. I have a bad habit of putting the clutch pedal to the floor so I know I didn't half *** the shift. Then today on the way to the dealership everything felt tight and my tranny grinded going into 6th at about 60-65mph. If you know what it might be please tell me. All I was told is that they would replace the shift fork as the TSB stated and if I still had a problem they would take care of it. At least they are trying to do something for us instead of ignoring it. I am happy about that part of it. I'll see over the next couple weeks whether or not I am being given the run around. Considering my service rep I highly doubt it.

Quote from paper work-

“PERFORMED M-TIPS AND VERIFIED THAT PRESSURE PLATE BOLTS WERE
WITH IN SPEC. 16.3 TO 24.4 FT LBS
FOUND UPDATED SHIFT FORK FOR HARD 1-2 SHIFTS AND 2-1 SHIFTS
SOP SHIFT FORK”

Part # Y601-17-40XA
Description – "Fork, Shift 1st&2nd"
Well, I said I would check my parts list to see if I got the same part, but mine is listed differently. Mine just says:
Part #: Y601-17-40Y
Description: Shift Fork

I don't know if this was the 1st and 2nd or what. I do know they told me 1st and 2nd gears were "fried". Note: This was the first trip
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Originally Posted by beachdog
What's the deal with the two of you in AZ? Did you both purchase from the same dealer? Just wondering if there wasn't some serious abuse by someone at the dealer either pre-delivery or while you were in for service.
No we bought our 8s at different places and we have diff build dates. I did recheck my paper work to find that my car was a demo I saw 60 miles on it upon delivery and didn't think twice. My fault entirely. I was to busy reading the rest of the fine print and #s.
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Well I got off the phone with Dwight about 2hrs ago and he said my tranny is now completely apart. They are currently talking to Mazda about swapping out my old trans w/ a new one. I told him he could do whatever is needed... whatever it takes to fix the prob. I miss my 8...

For as many probs as I have had, I still love this car. I've never had anything like it nor do I want anything else. I think I am as calm as I am because problems always seem to show up in the 1st year of production. I am sorry for those who have gotten the run around by their service departments but I don't think it is Mazda's fault. They built a great car with some bugs... they WILL be worked out. If anyone expects their car to be perfect, I'm sorry but I think your nuts for buying a first year car of ANY make.

-Boxcar

BTW I was told again that there is a TSB for the shift fork so I no longer believe it was the wrong use of the term.
Old 12-10-2004, 08:20 PM
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thanks for the thread. i thought something seemed fishy when 1 to 2 shifts were grinding, even after deliberate efforts to make sure the clutch was in before going into second. for me it only seems to happen with high rpm shifts. i was thinking perhaps the syncro's were not doing their job.
Old 12-10-2004, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxcar
Well the manual they were waiting on came in yesterday. Hopefully I'll know more next week.
which manual? the "rebuilding the 6mt" manual?


Originally Posted by Boxcar
Well I got off the phone with Dwight about 2hrs ago and he said my tranny is now completely apart. They are currently talking to Mazda about swapping out my old trans w/ a new one. I told him he could do whatever is needed... whatever it takes to fix the prob. I miss my 8...

For as many probs as I have had, I still love this car. I've never had anything like it nor do I want anything else. I think I am as calm as I am because problems always seem to show up in the 1st year of production. I am sorry for those who have gotten the run around by their service departments but I don't think it is Mazda's fault. They built a great car with some bugs... they WILL be worked out. If anyone expects their car to be perfect, I'm sorry but I think your nuts for buying a first year car of ANY make.

-Boxcar

BTW I was told again that there is a TSB for the shift fork so I no longer believe it was the wrong use of the term.
well it looks like there is a resoution in the works for you. and abbib also glade to see that you havent let this sour you on the car.

on the tsb thing. there really isnt any tsb on shift forks. every single tsb/recall/MSP for this car is listed in the link in the TSB sticky thread. i dont know what they are talking about.
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Boxcar and Abbid, I feel for both of you. Not having what you pay Good money for each month sucks.
Not trying to sound arrogant, but I'm glad I have an auto in an instance like this. I know in time the torque converter will explode the way I drive it. maybe an after-market replacement will be out by then....
Hoping both you quick repairs !!!
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I keep reading of these problems and have yet to actually see one..(With several customers that are on this forum)

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Originally Posted by zoom44
which manual? the "rebuilding the 6mt" manual?


well it looks like there is a resoution in the works for you. and abbib also glade to see that you havent let this sour you on the car.

on the tsb thing. there really isnt any tsb on shift forks. every single tsb/recall/MSP for this car is listed in the link in the TSB sticky thread. i dont know what they are talking about.

I'm sorry but I did not ask him which manual he was waiting for.

Next time I talk to him I am going to try and remember to ask him for the Bulletin NO: . I don't see it anywere else on the board nor does it apear on http://www.finishlineperformance.com/rx8/docs/
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shawn, i hope they swap your tranny, he basically told me that whatever they do to yours, will be done to mine as well :}
For your sake I hope so too. I still feel bad about getting in there b4 you. So much for a simple shift fork replacement.
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Originally Posted by 09Factor
Boxcar and Abbid, I feel for both of you. Not having what you pay Good money for each month sucks.
Not trying to sound arrogant, but I'm glad I have an auto in an instance like this. I know in time the torque converter will explode the way I drive it. maybe an after-market replacement will be out by then....
Hoping both you quick repairs !!!

lol Thanks 09. As soon as we get our cars back we all need to go for a ride again. Can anyone think of some good places for this time of year?
Old 12-13-2004, 12:32 AM
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Car Won't Shift period

well yeah like i said the car wont shift period. It'll move around in neutral but wont engage in any gear. I dont know what happned the car was fine on the freeway then all of a sudden when i tried to row through the gears it just wouldnt move . I searched the forum if anyone had this happen to them but no luck. So i have to wait till monday to get the car towed to the dealer.
Any ideal how this happened? Or what happened?

P.S - It was embarrassing b/c saw 2 rx-8 pass by.haha
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sounds like what happened to me so you probably have a drivetrain related problem me my clutch blew.


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